Do You R&Believe In Love

Have you ever wondered what ever happened to how R&B used to sound? The feeling it gave you? The jams that were created? Well, join the gang as they discuss what shift could we have gone through to lose what R&B used to be, and when did we lose R&B groups?

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Chapters

• 0:00 Intro
• 2:30 Checking Pulses
• 35:03 Entertainment News
• 41:28 Reddit Roulette
• 57:11 Magic Mind
• 58:44 Do You R&Believe In Love
• 2:07:30 Fun & Games
• 2:20:42 Fun Fact
• 2:24:06 Outro
• 2:25:30 Socials
• 2:25:43 Fake Ad

Transcript

SPEAKER_01: 0:03

Welcome everyone, coming to you directly from the luxurious OLR Studios, this is Templeton. Where is Las Vegas? This is Sweet Baby Jay. Can I see what you just said written on paper?

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This is Melina. It is the biggest spider I've ever seen in my life.

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This is Grizz. After this, I'm going to get off here and I'm going to dragon them balls. This is the Arrogant Yeti. At least I know 2 plus 2 is 5. And this is the FMJ Podcast. 3 p.m. Eastern time. I don't think that's the case. What is that? Anyway. That's early time. Let's go. I say we speed run. Speed run? Is that what we're going to do? And that's the show. See you later. Good night. Good night. We should literally, you know what? I said we fucking call this the random episode. No. No. No. That's not how this is going to work. Anyway. Are we ready? yes welcome back to another beautiful episode of the fmj podcast where we make all of your wildest fantasies come true i'm just kidding we don't do that unless

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no budget

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unless you take grizz out to the ball game and give him one reach around while he's watching Come on now. It's baseball season. Let's go! Show of hands. Who's done a reach around? Wait, what? Are you... What's happening? Not during the Diddy trials. Are you asking such a question?

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What?

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What did he say? What did he say?

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Oh...

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oh yeah that's wild

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oh okay so no one here has

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okay

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what the fuck

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was

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that who the fuck who the fuck starts a conversation like that I just sat down anyway anyway all right i'm sorry continue if we if we can um go around the room real quick because we now have uh a full we have a full staff this this this week it's so nice we have a full staff grizz has returned i've been back finally

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what

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Melina just fucking faded in. She was like the whole mecca. She said, That was epic. That's an entry right there. I'm fucking dead! She did the Undertaker entrance!

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And the gongs!

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And everything! And then there

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was Mileena!

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I'm so fucking dead! Let's go! Number 30! Oh my god, it's Mileena! Holy shit, I wasn't prepared for this. And I watched the whole thing, too. I wanted to see what was happening.

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She just showed the fuck up. I was like, what

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the

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fuck? I just turned the camera on. I don't know.

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It was like the most gentle, romantic thing ever. The fade-in was absolutely epic. The way you just came in. Literally, it was like a dissolve. And you just came right the fuck in. And I was like, what the actual fuck? Anyway. What did he say? I don't know. That was smooth like butter. It honestly was. That was the smoothest fucking entrance that anybody's ever had on this show. Just throwing that out there. For those of you listening, Melina just literally graced us with her presence. The way she just faded into the show like that. I don't know. I would love to see it happen again, but we don't have time for that. Anyway, I don't know what happened to Templeton. Hopefully he'll get back on here. We're going to go ahead and go around the room check everybody's pulse real quick oh there he is Chris yeah we're gonna start with you today cool what's your pulse look like you know it's pretty normal today yeah nothing too crazy I will say this I feel like I've been a busy body these last few weeks I went to New York City and Before New York City, I went to a Kendrick Lamar concert with two of the greatest people that I know. I don't know who that was.

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I was not there, so I'm very upset. Me either. I got a shirt.

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You did get a shirt. Shout out to the shirt. It runs fucking huge as fuck, dude. I love my shirt. It's so great. What size did you get? 2X. It fits just right. Really? I got a 3 thinking it was going to be smaller. I should have gotten an extra large. Yeah, I should have gotten an extra large because I got a 2X and my shit is like a nightgown. I'm like, God damn it. The only thing I wish I could change is I guess I could. I could hem up the sleeves. I wish the sleeves were a little shorter. But I do like the length on the bottom. But yeah, so I went to New York. I had a great time in New York. I visited the birthplace of hip-hop. Very nice. That was really cool. Um... And then I've spent a lot more time than I did last year at Brooklyn. Brooklyn was fun. I walked around, got some pizza at Joe's. Shout out, Joe. Pizza. I don't know who the fuck Joe is. Listen, he'll appreciate it if he hears this. No, it's like a super famous pizza place. Like celebrities go there anyway. That's pretty dope. Yeah, it's really cool. Did you get a model spaghetti? No, I did not. I'm sorry. I'm sad. Okay. Continue. Wait, is that for real there? Yeah. I don't know if it's in Brooklyn. M&M's restaurant. I'm assuming he has one in Detroit. Anyway. I'm dumb. Never mind. I was going to say, that's why I gave you that look. I was like, I don't think it's in here. Yeah, I'm just a fucking idiot. No, it's okay. Is that the police? The pizza delivery guy's there. I'm scared. He's got his pizza with sausage. I was going to say, did you order the sausage? That's crazy work. Yeah, and then today I spent some time in the studio trying to clean and reorganize. For the joke. I just plowed through. For the joke. I'm done. I'm quiet the rest of the episode. Because we're off the rails right now. We can't even get through the around the room.

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Keep going, Chris. Yeah, keep plowing through it. Yeah,

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plow. That's how it's done, Melina.

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Sometimes that's what you gotta do. For the jokes! Sometimes.

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This is my serious face. That's pretty much it. I'm chilling on the couch in my studio instead of my computer desk. I see the nice switch up with the setup there. I have an unfinished painting of Vecna behind me. I do like it. I need to finish that. It's kind of like turning out to be season 5 of Stranger Things. It's being made, but Let's take a little bit. Oh, speaking of Stranger Things in New York, one last little annotation. I saw the Stranger Things play while in New York. Oh, how was that? It was really, really cool, man. It was like a prequel to the story. So it's like from Henry Crill perspective, like when he was a kid and shit. That's actually really cool. Yeah. I hope it tours. Don't know if it will. It probably will. Fingers crossed. But yeah, anybody going to New York should go see that play for sure. Nice. Nice. What? And then, oh, the other show I saw was the Betty Boop musical. Betty Boop. I didn't see that. I seen that you had the. Yeah. Yeah. That was really fun. That's pretty cool. No, that's awesome. I glad you had a fantastic time in New York. It was, it looked like it was a lot of fun. Yeah. Glad that you're back. Welcome back to the show. Thank you. We missed you. We certainly have. That's good, though. Moving on. Melina. Yep. Since you were kind of hit and miss there a couple of times, welcome back.

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Hello. Glad to be back.

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What's your pulse look like? No, you didn't. Whoa.

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Yeah, I did. Missed you, fuckers. I know, right? Yep. What's

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your pulse look like today?

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Well, it's probably about 65 right now. I'm pretty chill. 65.

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Very nice. Yeah. Anything new? Any new games? Any new movies?

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Any

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new schemes on how to get rich real fast?

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Working on that. Yes. Working on that. Because, you know. Work and shit.

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Who doesn't love a good get-rich-quick scheme? Right. Hey, if you got nice toes. I don't. Or a butthole, apparently. Anyway. Hey, well,

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you know. I might do that. Show off that little chocolate Cheerio. I might do that. As long

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as you control your face and if you don't have any identifying factors down there. I

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might. I know that ball. I might. I might. There might be a few things. Yeah.

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You got a tattoo that says enter here.

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No. No.

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She has a tattoo that says A's hole.

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We're so fucking stupid! What a joke! No! No! That's not what it is! What the

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fuck was that noise? It sounded like a velociraptor.

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Anyways! I'm done here. I'm done here.

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Move on. It was

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like...

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It sounded like a transformer.

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I

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can't wait till we play that noise back to really see what it sounds like. Because I feel like we're both really wrong. Actually, it sounded like the screech of a chair. The Transformers sound so much better.

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It could have been the fact that I hit my arm for my mic.

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Hit it again. Let me hear what it sounds. False. Yeah, hit it again. Hit it again. Hang on. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Don't stop. We're almost there. Safe word. Safe word. Safe word. Safe word. Anyway,

SPEAKER_00: 12:03

Melina. Nothing new? I'm trying to find a new game to play. Are you burned out on

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Fortnite?

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Honestly, streaming has been really difficult for me because it's very... Like the drama in it is very childish. Yeah.

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Can you explain what

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you mean exactly? Sure. Um, so there is a community of streamers that support each other, but there's a lot of favoritism that goes on. Um, and like, uh, especially when you stream on Tik TOK, there's like, um, different levels that you can be at. So when you're streaming, you start out at a level D, but it's like D4, and then you can get to 3, 2, 1, blah, blah, blah. You go to C, all that stuff. And I did get to... It's not difficult to get to C. And I did. But because I'm not basically kissing these people's fucking asses all the time... They... have decided that they don't support people that won't kiss their ass. It's the political shit that goes behind it, and I'm fucking sick of dealing with it. It's sucking the joy out of it for me. For sure,

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because you're just there to have a good time and play some games and chill with people, and they're turning it into this fucking clicky type thing.

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Yeah, and it's the bragging and shit, too. Like, oh, I got all these gifts and I had all these people in my stream and this, that, and the third. And it's like, okay, I'm happy for you. But at the same time, you know that the people that you're bragging to are struggling. So shut the fuck up. Do you

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have to socialize yourself with these individuals?

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A lot of streamers won't support you back if you don't support them in some way. Like, if you're not going to give them the time of day, They're not going to fuck with you.

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Okay, so my question is, do you need them, though?

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Because it's so vast, the majority of the people that come into your stream are also streamers,

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yeah. Okay.

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But I'm trying to get away from this particular...

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Because I see your shit pop all the time, and that's crazy, man. You can't get any support?

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No.

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No.

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How many

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subs you got right now? Like Templeton said, you come across a few times when I open it up and I was like, oh, there she is. The last number I seen was in the 800s.

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Subs?

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I think, maybe? It's followers. Yeah, followers. Okay, followers. Okay, okay. Subs are a little different because subs are, you know, you subscribe and it's like, is it a monthly thing? Okay.

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Yeah. Okay. Yeah, it's monthly. But with that, yes, I do have subscribers. I was able to finally unlock that, but yeah, no, that shit just keeps falling off because nobody comes in ever anymore. I got you. I got

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you. kind of sucks but if you keep plugging along you can build your own community without

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well the downfall is that so many I don't come across that many people's FYP anymore because I have dropped down into that lower tier but I'm like I went back into the D's now so no one sees it like no one's seeing it

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I do

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know that

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TikTok has changed a lot of their shit as far as streaming, going live, and all that kind of shit. If you're not doing as great, they will literally sideline your videos. it recently happened where they updated their terms and services and all that kind of shit but if you're not getting a lot of traction they're just going to throw your shit to the side because they want to make room for the people that are having success on TikTok which that was the whole point of TikTok in the beginning to get everybody to be able to get their shit out into the world I don't

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know

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it almost sounds like it's a full time job and if you don't have the time to like Okay, carry on. If you don't have the time to invest in your image, I guess, then it hurts. It hurts you in the long run.

SPEAKER_00: 17:00

Basically, in a nutshell, the way that it feels anyway, and it may not be that way, but to me, it feels like because I'm a woman and I won't show my tits or my ass... no one wants to fucking come in my stream i swear here's what it feels

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like here's the problem there is truth to that because if you if you when you kind of like scroll through tiktok and a lot of the streamers that you see that are female they are wearing very provocative clothing to get people to watch them. That pulls people in. It's the nature of the beast, I guess, is what I'm trying to say. Now, I have seen a few that are just normal fucking people trying to stream, have a good time, and typically those are the ones that I stop by and show some love to, because it's like... Again, I want to see everybody win, right? I want everybody to go out there and do their thing, try to support their hustle. And I don't want it to just simply become, because at that point, it's no longer about gaming, right? It's literally like, oh, yeah, come watch me game. And then at the end of the day, I'm going to throw my OnlyFans out there. Little weird, we're talking so much about OnlyFans tonight. I

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mean, you know.

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Yeah, but that's the nature of the beast.

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Yeah, I'm trying to... I have yet to make affiliate on Twitch because, like I said, those same people are also on Twitch, so it's really difficult, and I'm trying to get away from them, and I'm trying to build a different kind... I'm trying to bring in a different audience. build

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your own community

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yeah like I and that's another thing is like there's a logo and shit that goes with this community which what the point behind it is a great concept but there's like 500 some people on the fucking discord there's too much there's too much going on that's a

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lot you get lost in the numbers you basically just become you just become a number like in fucking college yeah And that's what it comes down to. Like she said, if you're not top dog, if you're not top 10, you're lost in the numbers. You ain't nobody. I hate to say that. That kind of sucks. It

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really does. I've even had people come into my Twitch chat and they're like, oh, you haven't made affiliate yet? Well, no, because I have to have three average viewers. An average of three viewers per stream. And I can't even get that.

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That's crazy.

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It is crazy. It's wild

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shit. You'll get it eventually. I agree with Grizz. I do. If you just keep grinding at it. Keep grinding.

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With Twitch I will. Because Twitch is a different audience.

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All it takes is for one person to notice you. That's it. Generally notice you.

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I've got a couple that come in that found me on Twitch just scrolling and they come in every single time I go live.

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Yeah,

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those are my people. You just need one more. I

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know. You're almost there. Keep going. I know. There's three of us right here. We could just put it on our phone. I was going to say, I do follow you on Twitch. I typically do that on TikTok. I need to stop doing it on TikTok and start jumping over it. What time do you normally game?

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I usually get on about 7 o'clock in the evenings. Which I really... I really want to change that. If I'm going to stream on, like if I do continue to stream on TikTok, I need to quit doing the evening streams and only do the morning on TikTok. Like I need to get up early and stream in the morning. If that's a thing that I want to try to build on TikTok, but I don't know if TikTok is even going to be around.

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Do you find yourself having better numbers early in the morning or late at night?

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Early in the morning.

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I wonder what the time, where are the people watching from?

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Right. Right.

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right typically late at night is when everybody gets on the stream like late in the later on in the day everybody's on streaming so it's kind of like that's when you that's when it's all saturated and people actually have to look for you and find you right i don't hate a morning show idea though because like one of my favorite youtuber channels good mythical morning um i don't watch them as much as i used to but It's like straight up a morning show. They upload their videos so they come out in the morning so people can watch them while they're getting ready for work or whatever. Designing your stream around a morning show is not a bad idea.

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I don't mind it at all. The only reason that I stopped doing it was because of work. I was supposed to train someone, which takes a lot when I have to train someone in HR. It takes a lot of mental power to do that, but I don't know when the hell she's going to start. But yes, I agree, Grizz. Yes, a morning... theme show type theme would be great

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yeah so it's not a bad idea and especially if you know you get more traction in the morning than you do in the evening it would be it would be pretty wise to kind of gear your shit towards like get you know get get ready with me while i game you know what i'm saying there right yeah you know i mean that could be the title of your show is get ready with me get ready with me get ready with with whatever your game get ready with mavisi like that that could really be your yeah yeah and and it's not just you getting um um like you're not brushing your teeth and shit like you're literally just streaming and and you can gear it toward the people that are getting ready to start their day and you can kind of you can you can gear it toward that i like that idea chris good job um

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yeah like the last time that i did a morning stream i think within like the first like half an hour that i was live i had like over 200 people that had already come through the stream yeah see nice

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Definitely consider leaning toward starting it up in the morning and see how that goes. You can always report back. Do you record your streams too?

SPEAKER_00: 23:28

They're on Twitch, but I don't record them on my PC. You should.

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You have OBS, so go ahead and just screen record your shit.

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Should I get an external something to save that too?

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External hard drive, yes. yeah you will want uh for long-term storage jesus um they have specific terabyte drives that are designed for long-term fuck long-term storage because they will they will keep for a long time um yeah i i've been meaning to build one for my like digitizing my art but i've been on a hiatus with art creation so i haven't really worried about it yeah it's not a bad idea though so i would i would definitely say start start start that journey see how it goes you can always report back real quick though before we move on to yeti here because i'm sure he's itching to tell us what his pulse is is today um go ahead and plug your stuff for twitch and even tiktok if you want to just oh

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so on um on twitch my handle is uh oh no it's mavisi um and mavisi is spelled m-e-v-i-s-i and then on tiktok it is oh no mavisi because for some reason it won't take it with the it's that's weird

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Well, there you go. Go follow. Go watch. Watch her stream. And maybe very shortly in the near future, you can get ready with Mavisi in the morning. Who knows? Mavisi in the morning. Mavisi in the morning. I like that. I do. I do. I kind of like that. It's got a little ring to it. it does yeah it really does so report back let us know how it goes once you once you start that journey we are we are here to support you madam

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i appreciate you guys so sorry

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i took up so much time oh no it's it's not a it's not a big deal not at all but yeti

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you rang

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what

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you rang

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what does your pulse look like today i don't know i don't think he's gonna get it right guys 186,282 MS. What? Melissa? Okay, so are you trying to say your pulse is the speed of light? Is that what we're going with? Is that what you're going with? Is that what you're sticking with?

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Do it, Jay. What? the lightning oh shit hell

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yeah so is that what you're saying yeah yeah is that okay okay cool um so what's new with yeti other than light speed blood Uh, not much. Just, you know, getting close to the wifey being due. Oh, yeah, that's any day. So we're trying to do, you know, trying to find out what we're going to be doing with babysitting and stuff of that nature. So, yeah, I'm doing dad stuff, I guess. Hell, yeah. Hell, yeah. More than just cutting the grass now, isn't it? Yeah. Hey, did you get your new balances in the mail? Not yet. They come fresh with every baby. That's crazy. Could you imagine if New Balance heard this? They're like, oh, he's an expecting father. They said something in the mail and it's like, heard you were becoming a dad. Congratulations. I'd welcome him too. And I'd fucking shout him out. Bro, I wouldn't be mad about it. I wouldn't be mad at all. Wouldn't be fucking mad about it. Fucking New Balance. Here's some shoes. As a matter of we'll throw in some socks in there too got nice crew socks but no yeah that is that is that's huge so like i know you guys are getting the house ready for you know the the baby on the way for when that plane lands so you got a lot going

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on

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oh that's probably why your your pulse is at Lightspeed. I'm just used to running around now. That's what it is. We had a busy weekend last weekend. We did. For those who don't know, we built one of those black and yellow tote storage things and I'll tell you what, for being some rookies at this, it wasn't bad. It wasn't bad. It wasn't disappointing. You gotta spray paint all those lids orange. Black and orange. Oh, yeah, that's what you're saying. Cincinnati. Yeah, I ain't doing all that. I see what you're saying, but I ain't doing all that. You lazy. You lazy son of a bitch. Joe Burrow is totally disappointed in you. He will be reaching out later, I feel it. But no, that's... Quiet, Melina. Stop it. But no, that is a lot to look forward to. And again, I know you've been busy just trying to get everything situated and ready to rock and roll. So obviously, we're all excited, right? We're all excited for the expecting... Expecting father The baby

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The baby I'm just a baby I'm just a baby

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Yeti's got plenty to look forward to So if you're feeling Side note I walked into the kinder care Because they had to do the tour today Now granted I know that the age Is like There were infants in there and toddlers in there But Seeing the kids run around And stuff Took me back. What? To like the community center? Yes. It's the weirdest thing because they're like, here's, you know, if they come Monday through Friday, we do like a curriculum and this is all the stuff that we're going to do. Some of the stuff we're going to do. Some days we have water days. Some days we have this. Some days we have that. And we do a field trip every week or once a month or every week. I don't remember what she said. She said a lot of information. But it's just like, Damn. Yeah. That's pretty cool. Yeah. This is the community center just on a, just on a, it's all it is. A wee little person. Yep. Yep. It's all it is. Scale. But that's pretty, that is pretty dope though. That's, that sounds like, that sounds like it's a good, uh, it's a good investment.

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Um,

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It's just pricey. Investment was generous. It's so pricey. It's great highway robbery for you. With what they seem that they're doing, would you wager the price is worth it? That's a good question. So to be fair... Like if it was just a regular... Yeah, no, no, no. To be fair, the price is worth it. with everything that comes with it with everything that comes with it right because they said they'd supply the diapers they'd supply the food they'd supply the only thing that we would have to make sure that we have would be like a binky their bottles marked on like how much food to give because they said that they will supply if the baby doesn't drink breast milk And we want them to supply the formula. They will. They have, they don't have an, yeah, no additional fees, nothing like that. They, they supply it. Damn. Um, and then they said that just make sure that they have a couple of different outfits just in case accidents happen or whatever. And they got to change your clothes, which is fair enough. Right. I mean, duh. Yeah. But other than that, they, they will supply pretty much everything. Damn. So, I mean, I'd say that's a lot of bang for your buck there. right right right and then and then they get the uh the interaction i also is what i also like when i when they were talking like they get you know x amount of time you know tummy time they get different things they get to do and everything they teach them sign language so and they said that the babies catch on they teach you know how like hungry like the most hungry right so it's just like hmm that's actually kind of neat because when the baby can't talk but can sign and More and more people are teaching their children sign language early. I will say this. I know the alphabet. I know a little bit of the alphabet. I don't know the whole thing. I remember at the community center they taught us a lot of that. To be fair, I've actually used it. I used it probably within the past year. Real short story. I was delivering... in Indiana and I tried talking to her and she's like she's in a motion like I can't hear and I was like oh and then I was like Let's try it. See if

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I still got it. I got it. I swear to

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God, bro. I swear to God. I dust my hands off, baby. I dust my hands off. And I said, let's do this. And I said, hello. And she was like, I spelled out hello. And she was like, her eyes got bright. And she was like, yeah. And she was like. Oh, and then she spelled out, Oh, hello. And I said, my name is, and I spelled it out. And then she's like, cool. Like, like we had, like, it took a little bit. So we didn't talk about a lot. Cause I don't know. Right. So it, it was just, it was pretty cool. It was just, it was pretty cool. A little cool little moment. That is dope. That is dope. That's why it is important to like, at least know the alphabet, right? Like, so that way you can, If ever you run into anybody that has That's true yeah That is you know hearing impaired You can literally communicate at least There's always that language barrier or anything Right and then keep in mind Like obviously she was I've come across People who can't hear or Whatever have hearing issues They can read lips pretty well Right Yeah. So that is one thing that, you know, helped, you know, to some degree when we were talking or whatever, but it was, it was pretty cool. Yeah. Right. Right. Right. So that is true, but not, not everybody has, yeah, not everybody has a paper and pad available. So

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true,

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but no, no, you're right. Grizz. That is why, that is why we have that, but you do have a phone on you where you can be like, Oh, Anyway, awesome. I'm glad everybody's doing well, doing swell. We don't know what happened to Templeton, those of you listening. He just disappeared, fell off the planet. I don't know what happened. Hopefully he's okay. He just pulled a Batman. Gone. So anyway, who wants some entertainment news? Hold on, hold on, hold on. How are you doing, Jay? How am I doing? Thank you. This is how I'm doing. I am doing so well, I'm going to give you some entertainment news. Did you hear that they have the world's first genetically modified spider that makes glowing red silk?

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Stop

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it. I promise you. Grizz, you look... Grizz is like, what the fuck? Where's my jacket? Listen, listen, I'm with you. But I'm just kind of like, we are one step closer to having Spider-Man, right? before we have GTA 6. Like, what the fuck is this world coming to? I don't understand. Oh, fuck. Okay, hold on. Wait, I take it back. No jacket. Give me the Spider-Man suit. No, because when we were talking about what games has Melina been playing, I was going to be like, I heard there's one coming out soon. It's called GTA 6. But I fucking forgot because we got serious. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We got serious. But GTA 6 is coming out next year, supposedly. We'll see if they keep that release date or if they move it. But what I want to share with you guys is that scientists at the University of Beirut have achieved a groundbreaking feat by creating the world's first genetically modified spider that produces glowing red silk. Utilizing the CRISPR-Cas9 gene editing technology, they inserted a gene responsible for red fluorescent protein into the genome of the com common house spider this modification enables a spider to spin silk that fluoresces under specific lighting conditions without compromising its natural strength and elasticity that is from msk arts on facebook go follow them free plug by the way not paid uh go follow them they got some pretty pretty interesting facts there but yeah we have a spider that spins glowing red fucking silk Okay,

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first of all, I don't like spiders, but I would like to have one, please. Thank you. See?

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And it, hold on. It's silk? It's silk. Like, the webbing that it makes, it now glows red under a certain light. Like, and it's like silk. Like, silk. Silk, silk, silk.

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You're welcome.

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Okay, now, why are we taking jobs away from the... Stop it. okay okay chris you said you had a question you said you had a question chris said stop it enough let me stop you right there brother brother let me stop you right there well i was about to say like how do we get silk and then i was like well let me google that real quick before i ask it out loud It's silkworms, in case anyone was wondering. But my next question is, can we make silk from spider silk? That's a good question. I mean, if we did, if we did, would it be as strong as a spider's web? Yes, spider silk can be harvested. I thought so. Does it keep its strength? um there's a lot of words let me get back to you he said you know what i'll read it you carry on so anyway um yes so we have a a red spider with glowing red silk that that that i guess coming to your town soon i don't know uh like what are they going to do with this spider is it just going to be one of one is it going to be a one-of-one spider because if If Spider-Man has taught me anything, that spider's going to find a way to get out of there. Holy shit. Are y'all ready for this? It's strong and elastic and is valuable for various applications. There we go. Are you ready for this? What's up? Spider silk is incredibly strong, boosting a tensile strength five times greater than steel. See? There you go. That means a strand of spider silk can withstand as much... withstand a much higher force before breaking compared to a steel strand of the same size. Yeah, that's why I wanted to know if it kept its strength. Because if it does, that's solid fucking silk. Especially from a red glowing, a red fluorescent type of silk. Like, guys, I'm telling you, we are one step closer to having Spider-Man before GTA 6. Like, what the fuck is happening? I don't get it. They are also working on making a synthetic spider silk so they don't have to harvest it from real animals. I mean, I guess that's not a bad idea. Because it would require a lot. I mean, imagine the amount of spiders it takes to make enough to make it useful for human application. But if you could synthesize it. Fabricate it. Yeah. Or even better, just make a giant fucking spider. Don't do that. Stop. Stop. Listen, you already put it out in the universe and now they're like, I wonder. The people riding the fifth Jurassic Park is like, hold up. Yeah, wait. Wait a minute. Wait. Wait. Guys, why we never thought Something else. Something else. So anyway, digest that how you will. Again, I don't know exactly what their plan is with this spider. I don't know if it's just something that they did just for bragging rights to say, look what we did. We have a spider that spins red glowing silk. They better put that shit in clothes. You know what I'm saying? Could you imagine a hat embroidered with... With that silk? Nasty. Nasty. Black Widow merch about to go off the chain. It's about to go dumb. It honestly is. So, again, do with that information what you will. Melina! Are you listening?

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Yeah.

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Are you here?

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I'm here.

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Do you have a Reddit story to read to us?

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Un momento.

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Oh, are you bilingual now? Nice. Si, senorita. Si, si. I just don't want to learn a language that would not make sense. That's crazy work. No, no, no. Anyway, Yeti, what did you just say? What did I say? I don't know. What did you say? Jesus Christ. What did I say? I was just probably talking out of my ass. I don't know what I said. You fucking son of a bitch. Bro, you gotta save that for Holy Fan. Dude! I don't know, but let me tell you, it's, it's really strange. We've brought up only fans this many times.

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Yeah. What's happening. I don't know.

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That's like four, by the way, since we started recording anyway, just saying, um,

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I don't have it. Nothing. No, I had saved something, and it's not in my saved. Boo!

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All right, Yeti. I don't know. All right, Yeti. That's okay. Please hold. Please hold. It's all good.

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The number's two.

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Nice. Okay. He didn't even give her an option. Two. Two. Two. Said, fuck your numbers. Two. Oh, did he freeze? One.

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Two.

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Only fans. Am I the asshole for selling my butthole on OnlyFans? Short answer? No. Long answer. This one doesn't sound good at all. Why doesn't it? So stupid.

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Am

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I the asshole? I pointed out a mistake in my girlfriend's interview. My girlfriend of four years had a job interview, and she was ashamed of her performance, even though she got the job. Ten hours later, she was telling me all about it, and I congratulated her, and I am of her. I comforted her on the mistake she described. I said it's normal under stress, and surely she will prove her value when working. I also said she shouldn't have lied about a specific experience because it could have been easily discovered. She could have lost a job because of it. Lying about it had no benefits and she wouldn't do it in the future. Is that it? The lie was that she has created a website with tech X. Only fans. When in fact she did it with a completely different tech Y. She only said it because she thought X sounded better than Y. It was an obvious lie to someone with good knowledge of X. and could have easily been exposed after further questioning. So I said without malice that it was unnecessary telling the truth would have been better in every way. Please don't do that in the future. At that point, she got super angry at me and stopped talking to me for two hours. Now she says I lack empathy and it's not worth talking to me about anything important to her. So am I the asshole here? By the way, I've had... Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Short answer, he's the asshole. After all that? I'm just not going to get in trouble by the internet. After all that? What do you mean? I'm siding with her. So, I guess during this interview, she said that she had experience with a certain, I guess, program? Yeah, she created... a website with a certain program. Because that certain program sounded better than the program that she actually used. Right, right, right, right. Okay, so she embellished a little bit, which people tell you all the time to do that on your resume, to embellish a little bit. You've got to sell

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yourself.

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Right, so what's the difference if you do it in an interview? So my question is this. I guess it would come down to the program that she lied about using. Does that program being actively used in her new position? Because one, if it's not, then who gives a shit? True. Two, if it is, if she knows about program Y but has to learn about program Z, how much difference could there be? So, I mean, depending on what she's doing. right um depending on what she's doing what i what i've heard um when i kind of took a little journey in uh programming and shit like that i've heard that if you learn one language depending on what you're doing if you learn one language you pretty much know them all like you the rest that's my point right there that's my point like so it just depends on the level of which program she learned or what language she learned at first. Because there are easier languages to use as far as creating a website or a program or anything like that. Easier languages to use. If she learned the most difficult language... she's good. She's got it in the back because everything else is going to be easy peasy lemon squeezy. But if she started with something, you know, base level and they might have something like a step above, I don't see her having difficulty navigating those wires. That's my, that's my point. Like I look at this as being like, I've used an Android my entire life and I just started using an iPhone. Granted, it's completely different. But the basics and the principles are all the same, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Put it in the last part. Yeah, how to get to a certain point may be a little bit different. Yeah, the iPhone's going to be a lot easier. Yeah. Stop it. No. No, I don't mean that as a dig to Android. Hear me out. You want to do this right now? I'm not saying that as a dig.

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Yeah, let's do it.

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Because Android is more sophisticated of a program. You can do a lot more. You can customize a lot more. iPhones are more simple in nature and they are easier to use because they want to be used by the masses. Android for the most part is... usable by everybody, but there is more customization with an Android, which in my opinion does make it slightly better than iPhone. See, you thought I was talking my shit. See, but he was, see, see, you had me in the first half. No, but, uh, yeah. So that's why I'm like, I don't, I don't see, I don't see the problem. And for him to bring it up, I mean, okay, you do kind of have a point. If, We're playing if, though. If they poked more and asked questions more, yeah, you're right. They would have caught me in a lie, but they didn't. So we straight. What's the problem? Well, don't be dishonest with me. Yeah, I mean, on one hand, you could look at he's giving constructive criticism, but there's something I've learned in life. Don't give unsolicited criticism. There you go. And here's the thing Like I don't know because I've had this conversation With my wife before like when she's applying for like Jobs and stuff and I'm like dude just apply For it you don't know if you're going to get it she's like But the requirements don't match what I was Doing I'm like you got to break down what you Were doing I'm sure you can break Down what you were doing in retail To conform To what you needed to fit on the next job Right Yeah I mean skills are transferable Right Those credits do transfer I'm just saying. I'm just saying. Melina. It's true, though. Melina.

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Yeah.

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You're kind of quiet.

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Yeah, I'm just hanging out.

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You got any thoughts on that?

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I have no thoughts.

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None? Hell yeah. He's an airhead. Fucking Chris. Hell yeah. I don't... I mean, I don't know. I'm... Yeah, I mean, I would say because he's asking if he's the asshole, right, for pointing it out.

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I mean, kind of.

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I'd say a little bit. I wouldn't say complete total asshole. Not a full asshole. A lot of people are saying almost the asshole. Yeah, almost the asshole. Because it's like, again, they didn't ask more questions. He's

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like a plumber crack. Yeah!

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That's it. Just a little bit.

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It's annoying to look at. I

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do like how at the very end, though, the very end, he kind of like tried to make some of the conversation about him. Like, like, like he said, I was on my way for the manipulation. Maybe. Yes. Yes. Gaslight. And she started talking about the interview. Got to keep that for 10 minutes. And. She never asked me a single question about my trip during this time. Oh, no. You read that earlier the first time. I started cracking up because it's like, oh, well, guys, you've been out of town the whole time. Oh, no. You didn't ask me about my trip. I've been here 10 minutes. She didn't

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ask about my twin. Ask about my twin. First of all, I forgot about that. So because of that...

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because he's saying that like she yelled at me after i asked this question but she didn't even ask me about my day you yelled at me you didn't ask about my twip what's wrong with you I mean, it's gone. It could have died on the airplane. Haven't you seen? They've been getting rid of all the airplane people. Death is coming for me now. I

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was trying to do

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the most dangerous airport. He probably talked just like that, too. He probably does. He probably did. Probably. Fucking, oh, Lord. He probably does. I'm still going with almost asshole, like, little bit of asshole. I mean, Melina... I don't like the last part, to be fair. I don't like the last part. Yeah, Melina, you are right. The way he flips it and, like, makes it all about himself and is like...

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Honestly, like, if you put that context in there with the whole, like, pointing the shit out on the interview, you're a fucking asshole.

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Right! I'm agreeing with Melina on this one. I'm team asshole. He probably doesn't have soft R's. He's probably more like, dude, she didn't even fucking listen to me, man. Like, are you fucking kidding me? Bro, she didn't ask anything about my trip, bro. Like, what even is that, bro? Like, oh, my God. I got to go lift now. Exactly. Yeah. Oh, my God. You're making me go to the gym. What's wrong with you? Pass me a monster. Right? Okay, Kyle. Fucking shit. Anyway, like I said, I'm still going to stick with almost the asshole. Yeah, you're right. He needs to work on not being a selfish dickhead when he's like... You piss somebody off and now you're all worried about it. You didn't ask about my day. Well, you kind of... I mean, like... You said it wasn't empathetic, bro. Bro! Bro! Wearing a backwards hat and everything. Fucking shit. Because it's like, she didn't ask for... Like Gris said, it's unsolicited. Like, she didn't ask

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for... It's belittling. It is so fucking demeaning for someone that you're supposed to support to point out... You don't know that. Yeah. You don't have that skill. Go fuck yourself. Have that skill.

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That's a skill. How's that for a skill? Go fuck yourself. And he's like, bro, I will. I went to college. I know how to fuck

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myself. I went to college. They taught me how to do that.

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I can't. I fucking can't. So anyway, great conversation. It looks like Yeti's reading some fucking comments or something. I got pulled into Reddit for a second. I'm putting it down. Wait, hold on. What are the comments on this thing? I closed it. It's gone forever. I'll never be able to find that story ever again. I mean, to be fair, it was Reddit roulette, so... What are the chances here? Let's see. Pretty low. Yeah, pretty low. Because it probably just refreshed, and it's a whole new page. It's a whole new page, yeah. Am I the asshole for criticizing my husband's drilling skills? Oh, damn. Okay, so hold on to that one. All right, hold up. Round two. No, no. Hold on to that one. Yeah, save that bitch. Save that bitch. Because we'll have that discussion on the next episode if that's what we so want to do. Yeah, save that. Save it. Save it. Screenshot it. Put a pin in it. Put a pin in it. Get a bookmark. Bookmark. Bookmark! Get the bookmark! Get the bookmark! Are you a knock? Am I a knock? Are you a knock? Are you a knock? I don't know what that is. I screenshotted it. We're good. Are you a narc? Would you tell the police? Oh, I see. A narc. Yeah, a narc. What did I say? Anyway. I won't be able to understand them, but I do want to go to Boston. Who doesn't want to? I popped my car in the Harvard Yard. What? I just want a cream pie. Hang on. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Or the joke. Ice. What, a Boston cream pie? No, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what they call it nowadays. After that, they'll give you the Cleveland Steamer. Anyway, we're everywhere today, which will be a perfect time to mention Magic Mind! Look at this guy. Surprise, bitches! Surprise, motherfucker! Magic Mine! A wonderful little mental performance shot with all kinds of nootropics. It's got lion's mane. It's got some L-theanine in there. Turmeric. Ashwagandha to calm your little ash down. But yeah, it helps with mental clarity. Clears mental fog. It'll lower cortisol levels so you're not so stressed like old dude in the Reddit story did to his girl. He was like, well, you shouldn't have lied. You shouldn't have lied bro shouldn't fucking lie bro so anyway don't be like that guy never be like that guy just don't do it so uh yeah magic mind um if you if you would like to try it what you can do you can go to their website at www.magicmind.com and you can use our discount code that will get you 48% off your first subscription or 20% off One-time purchases. So you can use our code FMJPOD20 and you can get yourself some Magic Mine. Yeah, you see that. Magic Mine. So what I'm going to do right now is I'm going to take a little shot of this little magical juice. Right before we get into this. I'm ready to go. Concentration. Focus up. 99%. Let's get into that flow state. What? the fuck are we talking about today? R&B groups. Whoa! Yes. Are you sure about that?

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Yes.

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Pwah! R&B groups. It just made it worse. Welcome back. There it is. I got it. So R&B groups. No lie? No lie. When you put your hand over the... I was like, wait, hold up, where'd it go? Because I was like looking away. John Cena in the flesh. No, I swear Jay's still here. Oh, oh, wait a minute. Yeti actually disappeared. Is he doing a bit? Is this a bit? Could be. It could be a bit that backfired. Hello? Yeti? We'll see him in five to seven business days. Can you guys hear me? Yeah, we can hear you. So a new audio device detected. Oh, you

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shouldn't have picked that. No. Mine did it too. And I said no.

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Wait, what?

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Yeah, when my Discord started, that box popped up. Really?

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Yeah. Is this an XC Go N6... O-E-F-H-D webcam audio. Just say no. Just

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say no. That's OnlyFans. Once again, what is going on?

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There we are. Just say no. How do you feel? You are going to have to scrub your whole laptop. i don't understand so right now right now i'm going to tell you right now your audio is not going through your microphone you are not your microphone is not picking up you right now it's picking up your webcam probably that's probably what it is if i had to guess so maybe settings for you maybe maybe unplug it unplug the big mic and plug it back in and that might get us back to where we need to be. This is so fucking amazing, guys. You can't write this shit, bro. No, you can't. There you are. You're back. You have returned. Jesus fuck. Yeah, you need to scrub your whole laptop, buddy. That's exactly what that means. Yaw trick. Yaw trick. Yaw trick. What's up, Melina? You want to talk about R&B groups? You want to get us

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started? Actually, actually Actually, I would like to talk about Magic Mind for just a second. Rewind. What? Yeah, I need to rewind for a second. I'm slow.

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Oh, okay. Yeah, we'll just jump back to that real quick.

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All right, Ace. Backpedal, backpedal, backpedal, backpedal, backpedal.

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I'm so glad you caught the reference.

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Oh, yes. That's some of my favorite shit. So, I was on the website, the Magic Mind website, because I need to get some more. And did you know that they have a Max Magic Mind Max that has 165... milligrams of time-release caffeine.

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Yeah, and I'm not trying to do that. Oh, yeah, they have different flavors now, right? Yeah, my heart doesn't want to explode today.

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Well, yeah, I just thought that was really cool. And then they have a caffeine-free now and zero

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sugar. Yeah, it's paler. It's paler. It's like there's like different color groups. There's a really dark green one, a normal green one, and then a pale one.

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Yeah, and then the Max is like dark green.

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Whenever you're done, Yeti. Whenever you're done. Whenever you're done. I'm not saying a word. Whenever you're done,

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Yeti. Please do.

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I just find it hilarious that she likes the darker one. Whenever you're done, Yeti. This guy. This guy. This fucking guy. This fucking guy. Hey, let me introduce you to my friend. Dolt. Anyway. Any losers. Anyway. Okay. Carry on. See, Melina? Did you appreciate that? You happy you went back

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now? What

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do you mean? Whatever do you mean?

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I did nothing, sir.

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I'm just a baby. Anyway. I'm just a baby. I'm just a baby. Anyway, R&B groups. Let's jump back to that ship real quick. Yeah. First and foremost, before we get too crazy and too deep into this, I want to pose a question. Okay. Okay. R&B groups, what do you consider an R&B group? Would it be two or more? Would it be two or more? Because technically that's a duo. But you'll hear them called R&B duos. They're identified as a group. You're right. But are they, though? Yeah, I

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would say two or more. Yeah, two or more.

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Two or more? Okay. Okay. All right. Hey, I'm just asking. don't shoot me I'm just saying Casey and JoJo can you be a one man group if you do like all the different vocals and layer them you can be a blue man group ooh hell yeah hell yeah brother anyway that poses an important question is it fair to say blue man group is an R&B group no No, they already have blue and rhythm. I'm just saying. No. They are the embodiment of R&B. No. Yeah. Physically. They are the physical embodiment of R&B. So when I think of R&B, I think of baby making music. You think of baby making?

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I'm just saying baby.

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Are you going to play that while trying to make love? Maybe. Listen, you don't know what those PVC organs can do to you. You know what I'm saying? Hitting them trash cans. Then leads. I don't know. I'm not hearing a yuck. No one's young. Listen, exactly. Somebody might do that. Somebody might consider Blue Man Group baby making music. So anyway, so if we're going to consider that, if we're going to consider two or more R&B groups, there's so many R&B groups out there from way back when up into the 90s. And of course, we did our little bit of research. And it's like, once you hit 2000s, like the year 2000, like a little afterward, R&B groups just fucking vanish. Disappeared. They just disappear. Yeah, poof. Without a fucking trace. They're just gone. Why is that? I feel like the last... And I don't even think it's R&B. I mean, okay. Do you consider Pretty Ricky R&B? So... You know what's funny? That's the problem. If you look up Pretty Ricky, they are labeled as a hip-hop group. B? That's the problem. They are labeled as a hip-hop group because I wanted to pose that question and I didn't know it was going to come this early. That's what she said. Bullshit happens. Woo! Anyway. Whoopsie. Because I had the same question that Yeti did. I was like, pretty Ricky. You know, I remember them. And I pulled up, because a lot of their songs, you know, oh my God. Now I'm drawing a fucking blank.

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Grind with me.

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Grind with me. What's the other one? I got new shoes on the rise. You

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know what I'm

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saying?

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Such a good one. But there's so much singing in it. That's why I think it gets confused.

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But when you look them up, it's hip-hop group. I think their sound is hip-hop. There is singing, but their sound is hip-hop. No, you're not wrong. I was going to say what Chris said. Because their overview says an American R&B slash hip-hop group. And then if you scroll a little bit, um, some quick facts, there's genre listed as R and B soul. See, and I think that's where the problem lies. Like that's where, like, I think around that time. And I, I feel like it, it's pretty Ricky, but they, I think they changed what hip hop sounds like or not. Oh, I hip hop. What R and B sounds like. I could say that's what I feel. I can see that. Cause now when did they come? All their albums sound the same. like like uh obviously not the same but like of the same cloth my opinion yes okay i remember listening again i don't remember everything but in detail but i remember listening to because i had what two three albums they didn't have that many no they weren't around for it for a long time no they weren't that's the crazy that's the other crazy part but i i again i was just really curious because who you call it um post malone did the same exact thing I don't want to get too far off track here, but Post Malone literally did the same exact thing. When he first came out, he was very hip-hop. That's what he was. And if you look up Post Malone right now, he is labeled as a hip-hop artist because that's what he started as. That's what he broke out into music with. And then ventured off into literally every genre. So it's like, right. You know, that's when he was like, well, I'm just an artist. I'm like, that's fair. You know, like if, if that's how you want to portray yourself, I don't hate that. Yeah. I don't hate that. Yeah. I'm not upset at it. It feels like a betrayal to some fans. If for sure, if all you did was this one thing for like four or five albums. And then all of a sudden you're like, I want to go do country now, or I want to go do rock and roll now.

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Yep.

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I can see how the fans would feel a certain type of way. But the type of fan I am is I want to hear certain artists do certain genres. Example, I think Miley Cyrus' current voice absolutely needs to do a rock album.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Agreed. I'll agree with you.

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And I think it's cool when some artists... decide like oh i'm gonna do a country album or i'm gonna do rock or i'm gonna do pop or whatever because you kind of get to see how they process what that um style sounds like for them for them

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yeah

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yeah i like that breakdown i truly do because because you're not like post malone's change up was crazy like that changes yeah that is wild yeah like like like it was a hard like one he went from a fastball to a curveball

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yes well so fun fact about post malone he loves elvis presley

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yes he does

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um and if you ever get the opportunity to look up and listen to him singing Elvis's songs, I suggest it. He actually is a beautiful singer.

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I know the guy's got a voice. I know he's talented. He really does. I know that. And that's why I'm like, I'm not mad at it. Right. Like back in, back in the day. Sure. Because especially as, as an artist myself, I'm like, for me, it's like you exploited something that, you know, a lot of people have worked, you know, their asses off for. and then just, like, totally just switched up on everybody. Back in the day, yeah, that's how I responded to that. Because I was like, damn, how are you going to exploit hip-hop just to, like, you know, bust it? Why didn't you start where you wanted to start and then, you know, go from there?

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Well, see, let's be fair. for an artist why why do we have to put an artist in a box

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i'm not

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again why do you have to go into a hip-hop box

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again back then i'm a listener i'm not just gonna listen to hip-hop no i get that because i don't just specifically listen to hip-hop right i listen to everything under the sun but back then when i was heavier into hip-hop sure as a hip-hop fan Because a lot of people were doing that at that point. Oh, yeah. Because at that point, you're like, you're just utilizing this as a stepping stone to something else. When you could have just broken... For me, I was like, it just seems like hip-hop just... They made it seem like it was too easy to get into hip-hop. Which is crazy, because I feel like it's not. It's not! It is absolutely fucking difficult. No, don't say, well... i think i if i know what he's about to say i feel like it has to do with like your connections your networking not even i mean yes to that but like we're getting so off topic but anyway i feel like i just say this i feel like hip-hop nowadays i feel like if it has a solid and for templeton says if it has a good beat People are hooked. Which is why it's easy. And the attention span is so small these days. If you notice, the average song is only two minutes. Two and a half minutes. Two to three minutes. Here we go. If you go back in time, R&B songs used to be like five minutes long. Hip-hop songs used to be like five minutes long. Because they had three verses. Now they only have two. literally some and some only have one right and they have a fucking intro with with that's like um like 30 seconds to 45 seconds yes that get people's attention ad lib then they for a little bit then they end it with more catchphrases yeah ad libs they do they do a lot of ad libs something that's catchy that that's why i'm saying they've turned it into something very easy to break into And that's why I was like, I feel like that's exploiting something, right? Again, you have all these other artists that want to take it serious that are like, you know, I want to do that for a living, but can't because you have all these people that are doing something that is I guess the easiest option, right? Just, just, I'm going to put this out here and as long as it blows up, I'm good. And then I'll put out a few more to get that traction. And now that I'm where I want to be, now I'm going to get into what I really want to do. And that's country. That's rock. That's alternative music, whatever the fuck it may be. I feel like getting into those is hard. Yes. Because those, I feel, okay, this is like, I'm going to say this, but I don't mean it this way, but it, Okay, I'm just going to say it, and you guys can pick it apart. I feel like to get in that, you actually have to have a voice. You have to actually have talent. Eh, as long as you have an okay voice, they can auto-tune the shit out of it. They can make you sound great. Right, but I feel like their fans is also going to see through the bullshit. For example. They do. For example, let's take Beyonce, for example. When she made the Cowboy, or the Cowboy, the Crunchy record. Yep, Cowboy Carter. Yeah, Cowboy Carter. Only because they didn't see her as country because she's never done a country album. All of a sudden, all these years later, she wants to do a country album. I still don't think that's a country album, if I'm being honest. Have you listened to it? Yes. It's a Beyonce album. Yes, it is a Beyonce album. She has a couple country flavors on it, but it's still more hip-hop than it is. Just because you have some spurs in the background doesn't make it country.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It doesn't. Yeah.

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I understand the country genre people that got upset with her having Best Country Album, blah, blah, blah. I get it. I really do. Maybe this was just the awards giving back to something that she should have clearly won a little bit earlier. I can guarantee you right now, she's not going to do another country album. She's not going to win that category ever again. Everybody that's upset about it, just chill. They'll be next year. But again, it goes back to what I'm saying. What did Beyonce just do to country? She exploited country, right? Like, even though people are like, oh, well, she's from Houston. She's from Houston. I'm like, bitch, once again, listen to every song she's ever put out. Listen to every fucking song she's ever put out when she was with Destiny's Child, which, by the way, is an R&B group, right? Yep. Yeah, because that's the topic. Full circle. She was with Destiny's Child, then she ventured out on her own, and there's not a single iota of country in any of her songs. Up until Cowboy Carter. And I'm like, left field. Left field! Left fucking field.

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And it's horrific. In my opinion, she's not as talented as people think that she is. In my opinion. That's just my opinion. And when she came out with the whole country album, I'm like, go sit the fuck down. Go sit down.

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I respectfully disagree, but that's because I think Renaissance is a phenomenal album. I think she's really creative. You can make an argument for talent all day. I'm talking about voice, but yes, she is creative, yes. Yeah. And her... The vocal talent, I feel like, is hard to fully judge because now she's doing stadium tours and no one really can sing for three straight hours.

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No.

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The way Kendrick and SZA did it, I think, is ideal. Oh, yeah. Because they took a lot of breaks. It wasn't like one person comes out and another person comes out as an opener and a closer. Yeah. It was like a dance. Yes. I know we were talking about that. I know. We got to bring this back to R&B. We got to bring this back. We got to bring this back. So anyway, I mean, it is all connected because we were just talking about Pretty Ricky, right? So are they R&B? Are they hip-hop? I don't really know. They could just be R&B with a hip-hop feel, and that's where Yeti could be right, where... Pretty Ricky could have changed. That's probably where the start of R&B started changing. Because after that, every R&B artist, if you've noticed, every R&B artist has tried to be more hip-hop-ish in their songs. Like, who is Black? Right? I love him. Don't get me wrong. Love his work. But... You get a very more hip-hop vibe from his songs, even though it's more of an R&B song. Right. I forgot about fucking Black. He's amazing. But is it possible that Pretty Ricky could have been the start of the downfall of R&B, number one, and R&B groups?

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I...

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It's hard to argue it is not that they're not. Because if you look at the timeline, like literally, R&B groups just don't exist anymore. They literally just disappeared. Again, when I say R&B groups, I'm talking about the ballads of them saying, I love you, treating women with respect. I feel like that sound is gone. History. And I just don't understand why. Because, Melina, you're a big fan of Kevin Gates, right?

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Yeah.

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Huge fan. Mm-hmm. Because he talked dirty on his songs, right? Yeah. He in there like, I'll spit in your mouth,

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girl. He's filthy. Yeah, he's filthy. He's filthy. He's filthy.

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So it's like, when did it make that turn? When did it make that turn to where the songs are now more freaky? Okay, so... No

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digging. Here's my thing. Like... I've always loved, I have always loved R&B. Always. I mean, as a kid, like, Bobby Brown, Whitney Houston, that's just something that I listened to all the time that my mom introduced me to. And then, obviously, it was like, R&B groups were always so, like, respectful of their women. And Like, I want to make love. And it's basically just all about the caring and the love and the support and all that stuff. Like, the really wholesome shit. Right. And I love it. Don't get me wrong, I love it. But then you've got artists like The Weeknd that comes out with this dark R&B that is so raw. That's actually a

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good word for that. Yeah, it's dark

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R&B. It's just so raw. And like... Not everybody wants you to make love to them. They want you to bend them over and grab their throat and fuck them.

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I get that. Right, right. So what's on your mind, Melina? Hey, yo. Only fans. See how we keep bringing it back? See how we keep bringing it back? Oh, Yeti totally froze, and that's wild. My rebuttal to that is... Am I still frozen? No, you're good. No, you're good. Okay, so my rebuttal to that is... For me, I grew up on R&B music. That was my jam. I loved it, but I also loved my rap and hip-hop. I love that gangster rap, too. Not all the time did I want to listen to the hardcore. I didn't want to hear the crosswords, the this and that, and all that stuff. I wanted my R&B. One of my favorite groups of all time is Jagged Edge. Hell yeah! Now, they still make music. Now, it has slightly changed a little bit. It sounds more hip-hop-ish. Nothing wrong with it, but they still have that sound of Jagged Edge. And they will still sing about that stuff that the good stuff will say. The good stuff. I don't know. Right, like the respectful stuff. Right. But to be fair, I mean, Jagged Edge has always kind of had that vibe. Like, no, given their... Hear me out. Given their first album... It was all, like, it was exactly what you expected from an R&B group. Second album, which I believe was, what, J.E. Heartbreak? Fucking phenomenal, right? Fucking phenomenal. One of the best albums ever made. Fucking phenomenal. Can't agree with me. Once they hit that third album, though, because I think that was... Because it was Where the Party At. Hey, where the party at. They had Nelly on that bitch. You know what I'm saying? Yes. So it's like, Jagged Edge, at that point in time, kind of, like, always had that hip-hop-ish feel once they got to that point. Well, that's when they started making their transition into... If you want to... Okay, hold on. Where did that come out? In 2001. Yeah, see? So there you go. Our years are falling in line with what we're talking about. There you go. And somebody really... Because I was listening to this song the other day. I read one of the comments. It was on YouTube Music. Some of the songs will have the comments and people will be able to comment on them. It was 112 with Mace and the Notorious B.I.G. Do you know what song I'm talking about? Only You? Only You. Somebody actually said this is like a masterclass on the blend of R&B and hip-hop. Like, They just did it so almost beautifully, the way that they did that. And this is why I'm like, not to get off topic again, if Diddy gets fucking thrown in jail, do we have to stop listening to 112? Because I'm not going to be happy about this. I'm not going to. Okay, that's where I'm going to draw the line. You know what I'm saying? I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to stop listening to them. Me neither. I will always listen to 112. Not going to do it. Because they're fucking amazing. Cupid. Yeah, Cupid. Peaches and cream. Peaches and cream. I need it because you know that I'm a Z. Anywhere. Anywhere. Anywhere. Remember with Lil Zayn? Remember Lil Zayn? God damn. I miss him. He was one of my favorites. If we're throwing out artists, there's so many groups out there. Do you guys remember LSG?

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Oh my god, My Body? Yes. So good.

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Again, that album for R&B group. Was phenomenal.

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Phenomenal.

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God. Silk.

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Silk. Yeah. Oh, my God. Yes.

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In

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my bedroom. In my bedroom. In my bedroom. yeah

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hang on wait wait wait wait yeti yeti that was so beautiful i want i want everybody let's give a round of applause for yeti thank you thank you thank you that was just okay all i'm saying is like i mean these are like amazing groups and then obviously you can't forget about the og group boys to men oh of course oh they're still they're still going to this day and honestly they need to be in the rock and roll hall of fame enough said hands down it it's sad that they're they're one member short yep because of health reasons he's still alive yeah uh which one i forget his name but is it it's not sean is it no no sean's still there it's it's the guy with the deep voice oh okay okay i don't remember i know sean wanya yeah it's the one with the deep voice yeah it's the bald dude Which kind of sucks because, I mean... Michael McCary or something like that. I don't... We need our bass, but... No, you're right. Boyz II Men will always and forever be the, like, epitome of fucking R&B groups. 100%. You know, there's...

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And they still have it to this day.

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They do. Oh, they do. They do. And that's what's impressive. Yes.

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Yeah.

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After all these years, they can still get on stage or get

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into a booth. So, they were on The Masked Singer.

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Mm-hmm.

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and they're phenomenal like live no alterations no nothing just

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singing

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raw fucking talent

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and I can they probably weren't I'm not saying that they weren't but they didn't get addicted heavily into drugs I don't know

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you

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know what

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I'm saying

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who knows Everyone, I mean, a lot of entertainers do. That's all I'm going to say. At some point. At some point, yes. But you can tell that they didn't use them for a long period of time. Because let's take, for example, Jodeci or Casey and Jojo. If you want to break it down, I did too. Jojo... Or was it Casey? I forget now. Fuck. One of them was addicted to crack. You can hear it in his voice. It's a skinny one. I don't know which one that one is. You can Google that. But I don't know. It is strange. And I've spoken to quite a few people ever since we decided to do this episode. Because I'm like, I always pose the question to them. I'm like, whatever happened to R&B groups? And I heard somebody say, honestly, it just... R&B nowadays has kind of lost its meaning, right? It's not meaningful music anymore. It's literally just like what Melina said. It's like fucking music, right? You just put this on in the background when you're Netflix and chilling, as the kids would say. If they're still using that as a term, I don't fucking know. I'm old. I'm old and employed. I don't fucking know. but that's mood mood

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total mood vibe

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um but no when he said that i was like you know it's interesting you said that like that's an interesting way of putting it like it's lost its meaning is that could we could we say that that could be part of it maybe i wonder it's probably a variable of things right like rb groups being more than one two right right yeah more people you have the bigger the the more slices of the pie that becomes more expensive to market that's true if it's only one artist you're you know you're only paying one person you can pay a backup band much cheaper than if like everybody is a musician yeah so i'm sure there's like a bunch of like the industry probably forced the change as much as The listeners did. But with that being said, though, there's still groups out there. BTS. You know what I'm saying? The Jonas Brothers. So would you consider the Jonas Brothers R&B or more like pop? That's pop. That's pop. Without a doubt. That's W-pop, right? There's K-pop. Yeah, that's basically. Because honestly, I want to say the only real legitimate R&B group right now is a super group, and I don't remember what the fuck of the name of the group is called, but I know it has Bruno Mars and two other people. Oh, okay. you know what i'm talking about if somebody wants to google that so they can it's like electric something yeah something like that but but yeah it was basically it's basically like uh like what tgt was back in the day yeti oh yeah the one album that they had it was still amazing it was amazing so it's like you know i don't know silk sonic silk sonic sonic And that's like the only legitimate R&B group I can think of that is around right now. Save for... I like me some Bruno Mars. I'm not going to lie. I love Bruno Mars. Do not get me wrong. I'm not saying that. You know, I'm not... No, no, yeah. Yeah, no shade to Bruno Mars. I'm just saying that... I was just throwing my hat in like, I like him. Absolutely. I can't even think of an R&B group right now. That's the only one I can think of that is around today, save for like Boyz II Men, that's around today with like, you know, fresh... newer artists, R&B artists that are around now that are here for this generation. I can't think of a fucking group. We

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should start one.

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Except that one. Except Silk Sonic. That's literally it. That's the only one. I'm like, where the fuck did they go? And to your point, Yeti, because I know Tyrese, he had his album, the Black Tie album. Black Tie album. Yeah, he went rap. Well, he had one disc that was Tyrese doing his singing thing. Yes, yes. And then he had the second disc that was Black Tie, which was his hip hop persona back in the day. And he does have, I think it's like the last song. on the Black Tie side, where he does a, you know, back when everybody was doing like T.I. versus T.I.P., like them versus themselves. Yes. And that song he talks about, he does talk about that R&B songs are more expensive to make than a hip-hop song. He's like, you can make so much more money, you know, making hip-hop than you can R&B. And Tyrese is like, well, I love R&B more because... I do remember that. The fans react. So to your point, Grizz, yes, money is probably part of it, you know, as being expensive. But if you are successful like boys to men, does money now not become like it's no object? Because they could do a sellout crowd right now. They could literally just come out and say, hey, we're going to go here. Who wants to see us? And everybody in the ground, I don't want to go. Think about how much you have to grind to become that. That is true. That's why maybe like the path with least resistance is often traveled, right? That is true. You bring up a very valid point. I didn't want to say it sucks. Yeah. Go ahead. No, I was going to say it sucks because I like my R&B music. Yeah, it does. It does suck. I found... singer it's not even a group his name is josh levy i'm not sure you guys heard of him there's a song by him that i absolutely love it but it's got a hip-hop sound to it it's called birthday dance it's a pretty dope track but he has a lot of like actual slower softer songs that are that are a vibe and they it kind of takes you back to the 90s a little bit just the way he sounds

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I miss the 90s. You know,

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to be fair... Who doesn't? And we say this often, but I feel like in some terms, we peaked in a generation in the 90s. We did. That's just my opinion. I mean... I blame 2000. 2000. The world was going to end. I mean, yeah. What if it did end and this is just the fallback from it? I know this isn't the podcast, but hear me out. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Wait, just listen. Just listen. No, it's just I don't know. We still have R&B to this day, right? It's it's it. I get it. I get it. Music evolves. Right. It's supposed to grow with the times and all that kind of shit. You know, the audience, as Yeti pointed out, they have a much shorter attention span. You're absolutely right, because what they play and on top of that, of course, whatever they're playing on the radios, they have to fit as much music as they possibly can. So shorter songs are better because you'll get more playtime, more. Yes, because, you know, the longer songs, they're not going to play. They're just not going to do that. Or if they do, they trim them off. Well, yes, because they have the radio edits where it's like they might have a third verse or they might have a longer outro or something, and they'll just be like, nope, we're going to make it two minutes and 15 seconds rather than three minutes and 30 seconds. Sorry, buddy, because that's all the time we got. Yeah. That makes me ask the question, how... many people well let's just keep it here right how many how many americans are listening to public radio like that like that that's something that i would like to know the answer to because how many people are using things like apple music spotify i mean back when i was in college it was pandora yeah and then when modify came into my my viewfinder i was like oh i like this program more than i like pandora so i made the jump i switched from pandora to spotify and i pay for that and i've been paying for that for a long time um which has helped me to discover new artists because the radio typically plays good old hits and like actually we were in the car the other day and michelle said um Why does it seem like these radio stations have been playing the same songs for the last 40 years? Because they're tried and true. They don't take risks anymore. Just keep playing the same songs. And then somebody like a Billie Eilish will come along here and there and you'll get a new song. I'm not even going to sit here and just name a bunch of names. Something like that. Some new upcoming artist that will make a wave. Yeah, make a wave, make a splash, and then fade off or don't. But most times, people fade off. Yeah. At least in radio waves. But I'm wondering, and maybe I'll look it up later. I probably won't, but somebody else can if they want. Somebody Google it. The amount of people that do kind of curate their own music and find their own artist and use things like spotify or tiktok to find new artists because i found a bunch of artists actually via instagram or tiktok like i know this is completely off topic at the moment but there's a band called duri and it's a brother sister band uh they do not do hip-hop or r&b at all but um okay i discovered them on social media and then like have been following their journey since like covid basically and um that's just one example of like finding new music like that where like i would never hear them on the radio not until they're bigger yeah exactly you know but that that and that's what i mean by music evolves with the times yeah most artists nowadays every And again, we're getting off topic, but it kind of always relates to it, right? Yeah. Because who said it? Jadakiss. He said it quite a few times. Artists nowadays can be much more commercially successful because of how easy it is to get your music to the masses. You literally have so many different ways of doing that. You now have, like what Chris said, you got TikTok. You got Instagram. If you, if you want to, if you so choose to kind of like I do, you can go to distro kid and you can pay a fee every year and they literally just put your music out there and it's out there. It's literally out there for everybody to fucking listen to. But as long as it puts it on places like Spotify, literally everywhere, everywhere you get to, you get to choose. Yeah. You get to choose basically where it goes. They have a whole checklist. Where do you want it to go? And most people just say, fucking everywhere why because they all yeah yes yes to all because that you're gonna get more listens if you have it on more platforms so right just like promoting what we're doing right now with the podcast exactly like being on different platforms to stream from yeah that makes sense yep and and and again does that play into that's why you know we don't really have r&b groups like is it possible nobody really like is like I guess, solid enough to create a whole group and be like, hey, you want to make a whole fucking album? Because I'll tell you what, if there was somebody, like a whole ass R&B group, just never heard of them, brand new, hey, guys, here's a song, here's a single that we've been working on, and they put it out there in TikTok, bruh, sign me up. Because if you literally, like, if you make a hit,

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I don't know, man. I don't know. So... I found that, I mean, there is a very, very, very large percent of the American population that still listens to radio music. Yep. And I mean, like, it depends on where, what year you look, but it's anywhere between 75 and 91%. Yeah. I wonder

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what the age group is. I have that. I bet it's a pretty big range. Because I feel like it's higher. It's probably a big range. But I bet you the bottom range of that is higher than I might think. So this is the AI. So I put it into Google. How many people listen to the radio in 2025? And AI's overview says, in 2025, 85% of U.S. adults age 25 to 64 listen to the radio weekly, with 73% of the U.S. population listening to line radio during an average week while radio remains popular medium it is important to note that this is a percentage of the population not a specific number of individuals yeah because there's things like iHeartRadio which you can listen to on like the radio in your car during your commute but also there's an app for iHeartRadio so that kind of shifts because it's still technically radio but you're accessing it via app so that kind of like skews The number in my mind. I could see that. Um... There's a lot of commuters too, right? People that either take the train, they drive, they walk, they whatever. None of us do that activity without music. There's nobody. I shouldn't say nobody, but there's a very small amount of people that are just raw dog in life right now. Those are called psychopaths. Those are psychopaths. That's why I said the number's not zero. It's small, but it's not zero. I think another another reason why we don't have R&B groups also we may have touched this a little bit already I think just the mentality of because again R&B songs I put as like I love you singing in the rain kind of thing the mentality towards other people has changed I feel like also so if people aren't relating to what's being said they're not going to be listened to so in my opinion your boys to men I love you song I just, I don't know. Yeah, because, again, to Melina's point, we are in the age of hookup culture. Yes. That's all they want. A lot of people, at least. I'm not going to say everybody, okay? I can't make the blanket statement. But a lot of people, that's why we have Tinder. That's why we have all these other, you know, dating apps that are like, you know, whatever they were used for in the beginning right grinder right whatever they were used for in the beginning has completely shifted gears and we are in the age of hookup culture where everybody just wants their picks and then get the fuck out so i will say this i think we're getting out of that space because yes because okay tender announced that they're struggling a little bit Really? They said that people are not, okay, the younger demographic, they're not drinking as much and they're not hooking up as much. And this summer, next summer, they're going to be kind of pushing more of a get together and go on dates. Now is that more so the culture is changing or is it due to like, Probably. Money. I think it's a little bit of both, probably. I don't know that. I just know that they said that... I'm going to say younger people. Like, when I say younger, illegal enough to drink and everything else. Yeah, early 20s. 21, 22, 23. They're not selling as much alcohol anymore. And they're just not drinking like they used to. They said that... Oh, my bad. No, they said that mocktails are becoming more popular these days. Yeah, I was getting ready to bring that up. Like, out here in Seattle, there's a lot more N.A. beers at the breweries and, like, craft N.A. beers. I am curious. Which is probably happening in Ohio, too. Oh, yeah. I don't know how much, but, like, yeah. Like, almost every place you go in, there's at least one to two non-alcoholic beverage options. That's not soda. Like, everyone has soda. Right, right, right. I mean, like, a beer-tasting... equivalent, which at one point, there's a version of me that was like, what's the fucking point? But now as I get older, I understand. No lie. Because beer doesn't taste bad. Bad beer tastes bad. But good beer tastes great. It's probably the legalization of marijuana. I bet you that has something to do with it. Because you can get the same effect off eating an edible. With no terrible side effects of puking your guts out over a toilet and waking up with a splitting egg. Melina,

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I know you have something to say. As a parent to the younger generation, I've got a 21-year-old and I've got a 23-year-old. Oh, yeah, there you go. They can't, I mean, she has, she's on a medication where she can't drink.

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Okay.

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And a lot of these kids in this generation, they have a lot of anxiety and stuff.

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I was just about to bring

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that up. And they're trying to maneuver through mental health issues because, I mean, it's a real thing.

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Yeah.

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And these kids are wanting a more natural way of to navigate that than like say medication or alcohol or substances

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right because

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um i mean you know what i mean by something right not not pot right or cbd oil or something like that the harder shit

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yeah yeah we got

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you yeah

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but but i did i did want to bring that up because i was like is it is it possible because i was gonna i was gonna talk about the anxiety and all that kind of stuff again is it a culture change or is it a generation that's becoming more aware I think it's that it's the latter the mental health issues all that kind of stuff and they realize mistakes of their parents that have come up and done the same thing they were dealing with similar things but nobody ever put a label on it so they didn't truly understand what was going on and how did we solve that we bury it and then we drink to death you just drink as many Weisers as you can there you go And then your problems eventually go away. Yeah. Yeah. Until I sober up and I'm like, fuck, I got to get drunk again. So is it possible that, you know, again, is it a culture shift? Is it a culture shift or is it more just, or more so just people being more aware? And if, and if that is the case, right. The world's just actively changing again. Yeah. Music also has to evolve with the times. See, full circle. Music's an organism. Yeah, it's organic. To be fair, we may start getting our R&B songs in 10 years. We might circle back. I mean, it may come back. Okay, I'm glad we're kind of talking about this because it is something that I feel like I'm going through as a creative person. as a painter, as an artist, like I'm going through this metamorphosis of a change of like, I was doing fan art for comic cons and not that I didn't have fun, but it's like, there's a very specific blueprint to do that. And, um, if I, if I really, really wanted to, I could do it. And, um, like blow it out of the water. Like, but a part of me felt like, and I guess I never really, really knew how to, um, I guess categorize it until Jay, you mentioned like some of these artists will kind of exploit something like hip hop to get the recognition, the fanship and the whatever. Um, and then start doing what they want i feel like if i were like i was going down that path as a as like a fan artist in the comic-con world yep like doing all doing this art that like i really like yeah i like comic books but i don't really love like just drawing every fucking comic under the sun yeah like that's not what i want to do but when you attend a comic-con and you walk through artist alley every single person who is successful has every fucking character under the sun in their style so they have a potential product for anybody that walks through the door it's just smart business now call me dumb maybe I'm an idiot maybe I'm Naruto of my own story but I don't want to do that I don't want to exploit a arena just so I can make some money. Like, yes, I want to make money, but I want to do this shit my way. And my way has more fucking weeds in the path. There's more trees. I have to cut these trees down and get through them. I could walk along the, the paving path that everyone else is walking, but my dumb ass is choosing this way. And I feel like at the end of this journey, it will have been worth it. but yes. Like when everyone else around me is doing digital and doing this and doing that, like I still do digital. Don't get me wrong. Right. But I think that we're coming to a point where, especially with the growth of like AI, not just in art world, but like in music world, like, I mean, how long have you, have they been making music with a version of AI technology? I mean, they have been for a while. It's getting better now than it was before, but like, Pretty soon you'll be able to take a sample of a sound and then run it through a machine and it's going to spit out a song and you didn't do anything. Yep. almost just like ChatGPT does, where you give it a prompt and it's going to formulate what you want it to do. Speaking of which, what's our next show going to be about? Okay, so I was going to say that's a perfect segue, but we'll save that. We'll save that for the end of the episode. I know what road you're going down. No, I know. I'm not even going to talk. I said that to say I feel like I'm coming to a point where doing more traditional media and maybe like with R&B like doing more old school stuff is going to have a resurgence I mean look at things like records like vinyls died and resuscitated yeah which is kind of like it's interesting it is interesting because it's not a clearer sound but it is a vibe and that's what people just want a vibe

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but

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like realistically I think CDs and probably CDs more so than cassette tapes, but like CDs take up less space. Yep. They sound better than vinyl. They just don't look cool. Cause they're not big, you know? And I think that that's part of it. Like people are like, Oh, the artwork on the, you know, you got 12 by 12, like that shit looks cool. And you can hang it on the wall. When you walk by and you see a stack of vinyls, you just, You get attracted to it. Cause you're like, you want to start thumbing through it. Like wonder what you got over here. That's pretty cool. That's pretty cool. But I also think on the vinyls, because the print is on the side, the flat side, you have to do that. Where if you're looking at a stack of CDs, you can just walk up and be like, Oh, okay, cool. Whatever's whatever. You have to actually interact to see what's in it. Yeah. Yeah. I've, I've found a, this is a tiny tangent. I'm just going to say one thing and move on. I've found, um, a love for cassette tapes. I don't have a huge collection. I probably have like, I, I, I probably have like, I have one Jimi Hendrix box set. So that's four cassettes. And then I have two cassette tapes from like two of my favorite artists. Um, they still work. yeah yeah i have a very shitty boombox that the speakers are busted i want to get a tape deck i want to get a tape deck that i can plug into a record player that i can plug into a whole sound system there you go and have like a proper music situation the reason i is because i found my cassettes a while back ago and i threw them away since then but yeah i went to play them and they were all warped oh That's fair. And that's why I said I think CDs would be better than cassettes. Because I think the tapes can stretch and shit like that. It might not sound as good. I was like, is every tape like this? And I literally put every tape in and it was like... I wonder if you can have them tightened up. Well, it's too different because they're in the fucking landfill. And it's not like cassette tapes are worth that much. I was thumbing through at the record store recently the like collectible cassette tapes. And like the most expensive one I saw was like 20 bucks. Oh, wow. Yeah. Whereas like an expensive vinyl would go for three or 400. Exactly. Right. Exactly. That's the difference. But no, you're, you're right, Grizz. It would be interesting to see that make a resurgence. Like every, I keep telling people, everything is cyclic, right? Eventually everything is going to be, be a trend. Everything's going to make a return and, and we'll have, we'll have the Renaissance of fucking, R&B groups. Yeah. Who the fuck knows? Remember Uncle Sam? Bro. Yes. Yes. Like, literally, ever since, I shit you not, ever since we brought up this episode, like, me and Melina at the office, that's all we've been playing. That's all we've been fucking playing. And here's the thing. When you start playing these older R&B songs, R&B groups, like, they are a fucking vibe. They are. Yeah. Like, They hit different. They hit different. Like fucking Brian McKnight. Oh, my God. Oh, Brian McKnight was so good. His Back at One album was one of my favorite albums. Jesus Christ. I played the shit out of that album. Six, eight, twelve. Yes. Oh, my God. Six months, eight days, twelve hours since you went away. All right, all right. We got it, Yeti. We got it. Okay. I'm sorry. I'm just in my vibe. No, I get it. I get it. No, it does, like, it grabs you and takes you over. Like, that's why. Oh, shit. Immature, yeah. All for one. All for one. Are we serious? As Yet? Bro. Oh my god. As Yet was, again, one of my favorite groups. And again, that album... I don't know the name of it off the top of my head. It was honestly, for me, their first self-titled album, As Yet, was just whoop! No skips on their first album. At least for me. I don't know how everybody else feels about it. Solid as fuck. Solid as fuck. Solid as fuck. And R&B. Don't forget En Vogue. En Vogue. Oh my God. SWV. X Game. But then again, the thing is, is like, when do these, I mean, I think that some of the songs, some of the sound starts to drift into hip hop a little bit. I mean, I mean, back then, I mean, how long, how long was Immature around? I feel like not that long. They weren't around for long because they ended up breaking up and then... Right. Didn't the main dude do solo shit? I think so. What was IMX? Was that part of... That was... From Immature. Is that a core memory? Is that a core memory unlocked? Core memory unlocked. IMX. God damn, I forgot. Yes, it is. I thought it was somebody from

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Immature. It's Omarion. Or no. No, Marquise

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Houston. Marquise Houston, yep. Fun fact, I met him. What the fuck was that? That was a dog waving, doing this. Sounded like a round of applause. It sounded like a round of applause after I said that. But I did meet Marcus Houston once, and it was pretty dope. Yo, I fucking forgot about IMAX! You forgot about IMAX. You're welcome. You're welcome. You're welcome. So, like, I had no idea that New Edition started in, like, the 70s.

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Yeah.

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1978. New Edition, Belbeth DeVoe. Yeah. But New Edition, I had no idea that they were like 1978. Because I want to say, I forget which album it was. I thought they were 80s. I forget which album it was, but I think it came out in like the 90s. And they all still sounded like they're fucking like 12. I was like, wait a minute. Wait a minute. They were back in the 70s? That's crazy work. But yeah, there's a lot of R&B groups out there for you to listen to. It is a rabbit hole to fall down, for those of you listening. If you are interested in really getting in touch with some feels and really setting a mood, go down that rabbit hole. Just give it a go. Give it a try. And I promise you, you won't be disappointed. What were you going to say, Melina? I don't know. God damn it. And then some, some newer people, but they're still considered older, but like Donnell Jones. Oh yeah, dude. Donnell Jones was, he was dope. He was dope. He was dope. God damn. I mean, and hell you can even say like Chris Brown has changed with the times to ushers change with the times. Yes. I mean, all these people, like they all had a solid R and B. albums in the beginning, and they've slowly transitioned into more of a hip-hop vibe. Absolutely. Absolutely. So, anyway, I think we are running over a little bit right now. Oh, yeah, we did. Yeah, we did. This has been a crazy episode. We'll wrap it up. Don't get me wrong, it has been crazy, because somehow, someway, we've said OnlyFans at least like 15 times and I don't get it. It's a good topic. It's been very weird. But we had a very good talk about R&B groups and what could possibly be the reason or reasons as to why we don't have them anymore. Because I feel like that can be missing in today's music industry, right? Again, that meaningful... type of... Here's the thing. You listen to Boyz II Men. If you listen to some of those songs like Down on Bended Knee, Girl, I know I fucked up. Here's the thing. I'm never going to walk again because I'm going to be right here on my knees begging you to come back. I'm not going to walk until you get the fuck back here. You don't hear that shit anymore. You don't get it. You don't get that in R&B period anymore. Sorry. That's what's wrong with the world. There's not enough people singing and dancing in the rain. You know what I'm saying? You don't have that anymore. If she ain't gonna come back, then I'm just gonna keep on going. That's why. I mean, think about it. I think the culture has shifted. It's shifted. It's shifted. Everyone's just out there worried about themselves. Bingo. Not caring about the other people. Right. It became the hookup culture. I don't need you around. You had the whole... Not to get on that whole topic, but women saying we don't need a man. Listen, I'm all for strong, independent women. Do not get me wrong. Don't get me wrong. But could that also have been part of it, right? Like, dude, like, like women saying, no, I don't need you. I don't need you. Okay. So now in R&B group, who the fuck am I singing to then? If I don't, if I don't need me. And a lot of people look down. Me too, God damn it. Pound me too. And some of the stuff that like, I mean, okay. So would you say that, A romantic would listen to R&B. You know what I'm saying? Like a hopeless romantic? Yeah. Some could view that as being stupid. That's stupid. Why are you doing that?

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You look like a fool. You could change the world right now.

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Right, but I'm saying that's the mentality right now. That's my point. Would you say, Grizz? I said I think more of us could stand to be foolish. Yes. Everyone's so worried about what it's going to look like on fucking online. What are my boys going to think if they find out I listen to this? No, no, no. You want to hear something crazy? When I worked at McDonald's, Long time ago, this is a throwback story. When I worked at McDonald's, I believe it was Concourse C. I don't remember her name, but I was playing one of my burn CDs of the many illegal downloads. I mean, legal downloads that I had from R&B groups. And she was like, who's playing this music? Because she was like, y'all could take some notes from him because y'all ain't got to listen to that hardcore shit all the fucking time. She was like, somebody in love in this motherfucking house. I was like, I'm not, but it's me.

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Yeah.

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That's funny. And that's where I'm like, Chris, you're right. More people could stand to be that way. It doesn't need to be like that all the time. You don't have to be embarrassed to be like sure yeah I'll stop I'll stop down and listen to listen to something that's you know kind of lovey-dovey that that kind of brings out the hopeless romantic in me that you know what I mean so you just made me strike a memory so probably a couple years ago I was delivering an amazing pulled up to some gas station had a delivery and the truck I was in I was bumping jagged edge yes some of the newer stuff like it Again, it sounded a little hip-hoppy, but whatever. It was still the positive vibe that I was going for. Yep. Right? I come out, and some dude was just out there bobbing his head. He's like, yo, who is this? And I was like, it's Jagged Edge. And he's like, like, Jagged Edge, Jagged Edge? And I was like, yeah, they still come out with stuff. He's like, no shit. And I was like, yeah, he's like, this is really dope. I said, yo, they still make good music, bro. And he's like, all right, man, have a good one. I was like, you too. He probably went and Downloaded that whole fucking album Whatever it was I don't remember any of that But you get the point So I don't know I don't know. Can we stand to have more R&B that's soulful? Actually soulful? Because right now, I want to say the only person I know right now in R&B that actually has a soul is a ginger, and his name is Ed fucking Sheeran. My man. I love me some Teddy. Let's go. Ed Sheeran, he is almost untouchable. Anything he touches is fucking remarkable. That cell phone song is phenomenal. yes he's have you guys heard his like music plan he has like an 8 I think an 8 album plan so he's done plus minus divide and equals he's done 5 yeah I didn't know he did equals yet it might be a 10 I think it's a 10 album plan and then he wants to do I forget the other ones I saw this interview Where he was talking about that When he was younger he had this idea And I'm like god damn this motherfucker's doing it He's already done like half of it Yep he's almost there Have you heard his Bali song? Which one? The Bali song Bali song? Yeah like it has like a Like an Indian music vibe to it Oh no Is it his new single? It might Ah fuck I don't know. Because he does have a new single out I haven't listened to. Well, we'll dive into some Ed Sheeran once we get off this podcast. Because I do want to wrap this up because we are getting way over time. But to close the whole conversation, R&B, just again, for those listening, don't be ashamed of it. Don't be ashamed of it. to listen to something, especially stepping out of your comfort zone. Like Melina pointed out, why does everybody have to be put into a box? Why put yourself there, where it's like, oh, all I listen to is hardcore metal, or all I listen to is hip-hop, all I listen to is country. Step outside your comfort zone for a little bit. Pick somebody up like... jacket edge or um imx 112 112 was great 112 was so great right as yet phenomenal i promise you promise you jodeci yes you were you get you get a little more back in the day type stuff but it still holds up to today it does like it it doesn't lose anything on its journey to lbvo boys the men yes Yes, like we could all, like Grizz said, we could all stand to be a little bit more, right, on the caring, heartfelt side. So anyway, don't want to get too crazy off the rails there, but good talk, y'all. That was solid. about R&B. Can't believe we had that much to talk about with R&B. We were ready. Right. I felt like we had to get something off our chest on that, bro. It hasn't been bothering us. Hey, that was a bonding moment. We just healed. Bro, seriously. I feel better. It's like therapy. Yes. God damn. We were ready for this fucking episode. And that's crazy because I know we all said we were really excited for it. I was. I was. And I wasn't sad that I had to do my thing, but I was like, fuck, I don't want to do my thing and miss too much of the show. Right, I get it. I was a little sad by that. Well, luckily for you, we kind of just kind of fucked off for a little bit. And then you got here and had all kinds of fucking... technical issues. I just need to get on at like 630. Yes, you do.

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Or

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scrub yours. Cause what the fuck? I don't even know how old this is. I don't know, but you know what? We're going to work for that Your New Year's present We're going to get you a new laptop New laptop So I do want to kind of jump to this Because I'm sure We're going to have a lot to talk about And it kind of sucks that Templeton Had his issues But fun and games We haven't done this in like three shows Because we've been holding off on this We're doing it So this is what we wanted to talk about 100 men versus one gorilla. Jesus Christ. Oh, that's too funny. We had to jump on this train, right? We had to talk about it. Who? Okay. 100 men versus one gorilla. Only took one man and one shot. So anyway. Anyway. Who wins? 100 men versus one gorilla. Anybody. All right, listen, we got to set some rules because Cincinnati Zoo already showed you don't need 100 men. They used a weapon. They used a gun. That's what I said. I got to know the rules. So again, from my understanding, 100 men versus one gorilla, and it is a fist fight. No, it's unarmed. It is a fist fight. 100 men versus one gorilla. Who wins? Listen. It's a gorilla every time, right? This isn't a real debate, right? Because I've seen people talk about this and they throw up the top five strongest men in the world. And I'm like, yeah, those guys are strong. They can pick one singular thing up six inches. Cool. That's a gorilla across the field. Who could probably roll a car over? Oh, Lord. Molina. I agree. Gorilla all day?

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Mm-hmm. Okay.

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Yeti? I can't even look at you. I've thought about this answer. Oh, here we go. You've had plenty of time. Yeah, way longer than I should have. Okay. So, this is what's going to happen. And I'm going to give it to the gorilla. The gorilla's going to win, okay? Because here's what's going to happen. You get 100 dudes, okay? The gorilla's going to slap the first group of guys that go at it. The first wave, 100%. Okay? Just... Decapitate. Fucking rip off limbs. Because gorillas are very, very, very fucking strong. They are very strong. So we'll say what? He slaps 20 of them? 50 more are going to run the opposite way the moment them 20 get slapped. So now you're down to fucking 30 more guys. He's already slapped 20. He ain't getting the other 30. I'm telling you right now, he's not. It's just not going to happen. It would have to be a coordinated attack and every person, it would be a straight dog pile and people would have to withstand watching people seriously get hurt to maintain the unified attack to keep the gorilla down. That's the only way it works. But it's not going to work. You need 100 warriors. Yes, of the mindset. Yeah. And you're just not going to find that. No, you're not. Because I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I will say, yeah, I'll be one of them. And I'm just an average guy, okay? But the moment I see one of my warrior friends get slapped, I'm going to be part of the 50 running the other way. That's fair. That is fair. Actually, I'm going to go to the gorilla side and just, it'll be me and the gorilla versus 99 men. Friendly, friendly, friendly. Right, right. So who do I think would win between a hundred men versus one gorilla? And here's, okay. So here's, I'm going to be the realistic motherfucker. I'm going to be the realist here. Gorillas are very much... I mean, most animals, really, are very much like we are. If, and I mean if, even if you send... So you have 100 people. Even if you send 15 to 20 people to attack this gorilla as your first wave... The gorilla's first thought is not going to be fight. Because they will also have the fight or flight reaction. They're either going to be like, I'm going to take you all on, or I'm going to dip. And if a gorilla sees 15 to 20 people coming its way, it's probably going to dip. I'm willing to bet that gorilla is going to take off running. And that's where I think you're going to have your issue. Do I get to choose the gorilla? Well, they said it is a silverback gorilla. Which is the peak of a gorilla. What I mean by that is we have a real world example of what happens when one person runs at a gorilla. Yeah. No, you're right. Because here's the thing. Gorillas attack each other one-on-one. all the time. So if it's just one person, absolutely. Gorilla's going to be like, bring the fuck on. Come on, dog. Let's go. Let's go, bitch. Me and you, between me and you, I win nine times out of ten. And I say that only because you might have a weapon that one time. R.I.P. Arambe. Yeah, right. That boy was a warrior. That's all I'm saying. You know what I mean? You send ten men to him, he's like, where's the water at? I'm going to drag you to it. Bring it, bitch. Bring it, bitch. So I'm just like, again, the realist in me is going to be like, I think that's where the problem will ensue. If you do it in waves, you'll send, again, let's just say 15 to 20 people. Gorilla's probably going to run. And if those 15 to 20 people chase the gorilla down, you are now separated from the rest of your group. So I now have to entrust that those 15 to 20 people are going to be able to get the job done, or I now have to send more people as backup because... Yes, the gorilla is going to be much stronger, but you also got to account for endurance. How long can that gorilla last? Is it going to last through 15 to 20 people before it is just like, I'm done and we just take over the fight? I don't know. Yeah, I'm going to say because I feel like it's going to it's not going to be in an open field, right? Like it's going to be in an arena, right? If you back the gorilla into a corner, you chase it, right? So say 20 men chase a gorilla. They back into a corner. Now you've done the most dangerous thing you could have done. Back it into a corner. You've put the most dangerous animal on the planet, or one of them, into a corner. Correct. He has nowhere to go. Now he can only go forward. He's going through you. I do agree with you. It does boil down to a matter of endurance because if you just send... 20 men five times and save your last, your strongest 20 for the last, you might, you might, you might squeak out. You might squeak out a W. So for me, I'm going to say it's a very hard to tell, but I will, I will call it a 50 50. I'm going to call it a draw is what I'm going to, is what I'm going to call it. Because I think I, I honestly believe that it realistically, I think, I think it's anybody's game at that point. I'm going to call it a draw. I'm gonna call it a wash and the other argument is let's say you had I'm throwing this person out there because like one of the biggest dudes I can think of let's say you had like 100 Brock Lesnar's like if you had like just straight powerful dudes mmm 100 more Kennerys. I mean, again, you can be strong. It really is. It's going to come down to endurance. You can be the strongest motherfucker you want to be, but especially against the silverback gorilla. They do. They do. Especially against the silverback gorilla. You're just not. If you can't last longer than the gorilla can, you're fucked. I think your better bet would be like one that's more of a. more of a more of a hybrid someone that's like maybe tall but lanky like like like can kind of like strict him up like a fucking snake like get him in like a choke hold because you're not going toe-to-toe in a boxing match hell no you're you're gonna have to like slip his garment and get up in there jaws coming off did you know did you know mike tyson actually tried to get someone To fight a gorilla? To allow him to fight a gorilla. Yeah, okay, good job. I feel like that text now. Yeah, like, was he on coke at that point? He probably was. Was that the 80s? He probably was. He probably was. The crazy thing is, I'm not saying he probably stood a chance, but it would have been interesting to see. I would have watched it. Not going to lie. You know what we could have done? Because he would have died. He would have 100% died. So what we could have done for the safety of my, my friend, Michael is the French strength of a average gorilla. Okay. Which is recordable. They just have a gorilla, like punch something. Now we know like the punching force. And now we program that into a robot that just like throws a jab. Ooh. If he could take that jab, you can survive. He can survive. Can you survive this? I don't, I don't know. Let me, let me see. Let me see. Let me see. Hold on. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to make fun of your friend, Michael. A silverback gorilla's punch can generate a force between 1,300 and 2,700 PSI. Yes, they are. This is significantly stronger than a human punch. Yes. Which typically generates around 74 joules of force. Gorillas are estimated to be 8 to 10 times stronger than humans in terms of lifting ability. Mm-hmm. and that's just that's just like a part of the the equation yeah here you go some account suggests that a gorilla's punch could shatter a human skull with one blow absolutely you're like could you imagine the top down yeah bro like that's like this this force this force is much stronger than this force yes dead dead hammer and how do they often strike downward down like they're haymakers yeah you're you're you're these movements yeah bro you're fine you're in trouble you're in trouble yeah chat how cooked are we how cooked are we chat so he's just wading through the waters of men again though again like i said I think it's going to come down to endurance. That gorilla is going to be strong and it's going to take out a lot of fucking people, which is why you got a hundred of you motherfuckers to go through. Some of you, what Lord Farquaad say, some of you may die, but that is a risk I'm willing to take. I will be the last to go. So anyway, um, those of you listening, our favorite listeners, um, Argue about it in the chat. Go ahead, in the comments. Talk about it. Whatever you want to do. Just don't get too crazy. It's literally just a hypothetical. I don't really think we're going to have 100 people versus one gorilla. Yeah, we don't need to get PETA involved. Right, exactly. Oh, PETA.

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PETA. Would it be acceptable to go to prisons and ask for a sign-up sheet? 100 guys to take on a gorilla? Okay, anyway. Listen, I will allow this. If you win, you get pardoned. You go free. But it's only 10 minutes. okay okay all right all right that's that's fair because let's be honest we don't want them out right right yeah yeah if you beat the odds oh bro you know how yeah those are bragging rights and i hope you really change your life around because you have an immediate contract for UFC. Right, because here's my thing. 100%. I am now frightened because you beat a gorilla. Please change your life around. I don't want to have to deal with you. Please change your life. Okay, so I've got a question. For the sake of entertainment purposes, if they were like, okay, you get to fight a gorilla, and if you win, you'd be set free. Would that be acceptable? Legitimately. Well, it would be Rome. Yeah. oh yeah yeah basically oh no you know what bad idea bad idea bad idea erase erase erase backpedal backpedal backpedal okay so let's wrap this up because we are way over time um who wants a fun fact who wants a fun fact let's hear it okay uh starfish don't actually have a body what What? They're all exoskeleton, aren't they? Starfish don't actually have a fucking body. So guess what? What have they got? The new research from Stanford University sheds a light on the animal's interesting body. Starfish have always been a topic of intrigue, whether that's due to their ability to regrow limbs or simply the question of where their body ends. And their head begins. Well, scientists might finally have the answer to the latter. Researchers from Stanford University, with help from the University of Southampton, researchers are suggesting that the entire body of a starfish, as well as other echinoderms, is more like a head than a body. Groups of animals that include starfish, sea urchins, and sand dollars. Echinoderms are a group of animals that have a unique five-fold symmetric body plan. That means a body that is arranged in five equal sections. How the different body parts of the echinoderms relate to those we see in other animal groups has been a mystery to scientists for as long as we've been studying them, says Dr. Jeff Thompson, a co-author on the study from the University of Southampton. In their bilateral relatives, the body is divided into a head, trunk, and tail. But just looking at a starfish, it's impossible to see how these sections relate to the bodies of bilateral animals. Bilateral animals including humans and most of the animal kingdom have two sides. The left and right side mirror each other, but are unique to each other. For the study, four scientists from Stanford University compared the molecular markers of a starfish to similar marine creatures. By comparing their development, the team could begin to understand how starfish evolved a unique body style. Using a variety of high-tech molecular and genomic techniques, the team at Stanford were able to understand where different genes were expressed during the development of starfish, resulting in their end shape and structure. So, bottom line, Starfish is all head and no body. I have a chocolate Starfish. Oh boy.

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