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Strange Stories You Won't Believe Are True
You ever had an experience that was so strange, all you could think was, "No one is gonna believe this.." Well, join the gang as they discuss a few of these! Some from the wonderful world of the internet and a few personal stories that will leave wondering! Also, we tell jokes.
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Welcome, everyone. Coming to you directly from the luxurious OLR Studios, this is Templeton. Where is Las Vegas?
SPEAKER_02:This is Sweet Baby Jay. Can I see what you just said written on paper?
SPEAKER_01:This is Melina. It is the biggest spider I've ever seen in my life.
SPEAKER_00:This is Grizz.
SPEAKER_03:After this, I'm going to get off here and I'm going to drag in them balls.
SPEAKER_00:This is the Arrogant Yeti. At least I know two plus two is five. And this is the FMJ Podcast.
SPEAKER_02:Welcome back to Two Broke Guys and a Microphone. We've returned. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Two broke guys and a microphone! Let's go! Okay. So, just like last time, there is moi, Jay, and there is... What's the opposite of moi? How do you say you?
SPEAKER_01:Toi.
SPEAKER_02:Moi. Toi. I like it. So it's just me and Gris today. Yeti is a new father. Hang on, wait.
SPEAKER_03:We're
SPEAKER_02:all excited. We are very excited. Hang on. Round of applause for getting in there, doing your thing, and winning a trophy. Lifetime trophy. Lifetime trophy, that's for sure. Lifetime trophy. But no, we are excited for Yeti. If you get an opportunity, if you're following him or anything like that, please make sure to congratulate our boy. Because he deserves it. Templeton, I believe, has his other children... Something or another. I don't know. Melina. I don't know. I don't know where she is. Doing
SPEAKER_03:Melina
SPEAKER_02:things. Doing Melina things. Just whatevs. Grizz, however.
SPEAKER_03:That's right.
SPEAKER_02:What's your pulse look like?
SPEAKER_03:We pulsing. We pulsing. At dawn, we pulse.
SPEAKER_02:What's that mean? I
SPEAKER_03:don't know. Hey, chat, what's that mean?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, hey, chat. What does that mean? At dawn, we pulse. Like, what's pulsing? Is it like gyrating?
SPEAKER_03:Wait, is that what the Mormons are doing? No, that's something else. Soaking. Anyway, I digress. I'll say it. I'll say it with
SPEAKER_01:my chest. Soak it!
SPEAKER_03:Hell yeah, brother. Yeah, I mean, I'm doing good. I worked a long shift today because the guy that was supposed to replace me hasn't showed up yet. I hope he's there, but I left.
SPEAKER_02:Wait, what?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, so the hotel I work part-time at... Someone was supposed to come in at 4 o'clock And he didn't show up I was supposed to leave at 3.30 But I stayed until 4 Because he was supposed to be there He was scheduled for 4 But because I was scheduled for 3.30 And we got busy I was like I'll stay until he gets here Well at like 3.50 I was like where's this guy at And then at 4 I was like
SPEAKER_02:I'm out Deuces
SPEAKER_03:i ended up staying a little later than that but then i i was like i gotta go like i gotta get stepping so i got up out of there i got you i picked up one of the picked up one of the lime vessels hey we got these new ones they're called gliders it's basically a bike with no pedals okay it's 100 ev bicycle with zero pedaling um they sound like a Star Wars racer pod. The electric motor is loud
SPEAKER_02:on
SPEAKER_03:these puppies. I think so. For an electric vehicle, I can hear it. Anyway, they're fun to ride. I hopped on one of those to get home. Fed the animals. Came down here. And yeah, we're just doing the thing, man. That's cool. That's cool. No big highlights that I can think of off the top of my head. Okay. I'm sure like two hours from now, but oh, fuck, I should have said.
SPEAKER_02:Isn't that usually how it works? Like, show's done, and he's like, fuck, I forgot to mention XYZ.
SPEAKER_03:You know what? I do have one little thing. TT thing.
SPEAKER_02:Let's hear it.
SPEAKER_03:Yesterday, I went on an adventure. I live right on a bus line, and it's convenient because it goes down towards all the tourist shit. It doesn't get all the way to the tourist shit, but it gets close enough that I can just hop off and walk down. But in the opposite direction, I've never taken it all the way out. I looked up the route. It goes all the way down to this place called Madrona Park, and it's Madrona Park slash beach. And it sits right on the edge of Lake Washington. OK. And I brought my skateboard. I brought my sketchbook, some sunscreen because, you know, white boy. And then I brought some joints and a bottle of water. And I was like, I'm gonna just go and fuck off. And that's what I did. Sometimes you need that up and down. The lake, dude, it was much needed. Yeah, that's dope. It was just a good time, man. I rode up and down the lake, found a place to eat. But before I ate there, I went back to the... I found this nice little spot by the lake, hung my feet over this edge, and was just sitting there and chilling, enjoying the breeze, staring out the giant mountain in the sky. It was just a good time.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, that sounds nice. It honestly does. It
SPEAKER_03:was relaxing, for sure.
UNKNOWN:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:I wish we had something like that here. I mean, I guess we kind of do. But we don't have the mountain range to look at, right? Like, you have
SPEAKER_03:that. No, for sure. And, like, you know, there's one thing that maybe I would have only come to this conclusion because I live out here. But, like, going down to the waterfront. So I'm trapped here. I got water on two sides of me. Right. I got Elliott Bay on one side, which is where like Pike Place is and all the touristy stuff. And then on the other side is Lake Washington. And then there's a smaller, like, I don't know if it's a man-made, but it's called Lake Union. Okay. And it's, it's at, it's, it's where a big river, oh, actually a salmon run. Ooh. Um, So there's a river that salmon run, and they spawn, and then when those eggs hatch, they come through the river, and then they'll live in the lake for a while before ultimately heading out to the ocean. I should look it up. Cause I'm not convinced that Lake Union is natural, but I'm also not convinced it's manmade because it could be natural. Um, it could be natural because it's at the end of a lake. It's where a lake runs or I'm sorry, a river runs into and it kind of pulls up.
SPEAKER_02:Yep.
SPEAKER_03:And then, and then they kind of throttled it off because there is a dam. It's called the locks. Damn it. And so with the dam there, they could have built this dam to like make the river pull up.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Uh, into a small lake.
SPEAKER_01:Yep.
SPEAKER_03:I'll look it up and then maybe next time, if I remember, I'll talk about it again. But I had somewhere I was going with. Oh, yeah. So I got water on either side and then the little the little baby lake, Lake Union. And I don't remember when I had to stop, but it was fairly recently. I was just like down by the water chilling. OK. And I was like, man. Like, this is so nice. I've never really lived by the water.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:And then I was like, well, that's not a fair assessment because I used to live in Cincinnati.
SPEAKER_01:Right.
SPEAKER_03:And that's right along the river. It is. But it's different because it's river water. Yes. Which is supposed to be fresh water, but with all the steel industry up and down Ohio and Pennsylvania. Not so fresh. Not so fresh. Not so fresh. It's supposed to be fresh water. Fresh water. Seattle, the sound. you know, has saltwater in it.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Well, the lake on one side is freshwater, but the other, like the Elliott Bay, like that's saltwater. Yep. And like living in an area where you can smell the saltwater in the air. It's nice. Like that's, that's a vibe. Yes, it is. I, and like, and then you stare off into the distance as you smoke your joint and you see this mountain range of the Olympics. Yep. Or you turn around and you see the cascade range that runs into Rainier and And I've just never lived in an environment like that. And I'm just so appreciative. And like, like I often will go down there and just like enjoy a sunset. And that's some shit I'd never did in Cincinnati.
SPEAKER_01:Right.
SPEAKER_03:Um, and it's just, I don't know for anyone listening and they're like, man, I don't have anything to do. just go watch the sunset, man.
SPEAKER_02:Honestly, it's
SPEAKER_03:amazing. What? Just chilling and watching a sunset. Or if you're in Cincinnati area, you could double down, go out to the airport and go to one of view parking lots, watch a sunset and some planes take off.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, that's, that is, it's really cool to do stuff like that because I remember growing up on the West coast when we grew up in California, we always had that. We had that constant smell that, ocean air. So it was, yes, it was different. And then when we moved here, obviously, you know, the river, but... That's totally
SPEAKER_03:different. It's a thing, but like, it's, I don't know, unless you're on the river.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Like sitting on the bank is not.
SPEAKER_02:It's not the same. Yeah. It's not the same.
SPEAKER_03:But if you're out on the water, different story.
SPEAKER_02:Well, yeah. Cause that's where the fun is. It's where everybody's boating, jet skiing and all that stuff. So yeah, he's, he's not wrong. If you get an opportunity, just, you know, enjoy that. Like he said, take it in, appreciate it. Yeah, watch a sunset. Because if you think about it, you only have so many sunsets to
SPEAKER_03:watch. Don't think about it. But if you do, he's not wrong. But if you think about it, it could get pretty sad pretty
SPEAKER_02:quick. It can get pretty sad pretty quick. But shouldn't that be the beauty of it all? Because we don't get to see that many? Like, okay, in our perspective, as far as time goes, it's a long time, right? Like, especially if you live a full, healthy, somewhat healthy life. Get to, like, your 80s. Like, 80 years is still kind of long. But in the grand scheme of it all, you don't see a lot of sunsets.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I mean, that's 80 sunsets.
SPEAKER_02:80 sunsets.
SPEAKER_03:That's if you took advantage of
SPEAKER_02:everyone. Yeah, no shit. If you took advantage of every single one. I mean, I don't know. I don't know. 80 years worth of sunsets. Not bad. Not bad. So go enjoy it. Soak it in. Soak it in. Take it all in. Soak it in. Soak it in. Get your vitamin D. That was for you, Utah. That was for you. Wait, hang on. For the joke. For the joke. Okay. Yeah, I'm just, like, chilling. You know what I mean? I've been very busy the last two weeks.
SPEAKER_03:You're on dog duty, huh?
SPEAKER_02:Doing that and then running back and forth to Evansville, Indiana and coming back here. I'm trying to hire people there. Get people ready to work there. And it's like... We don't. That's the crazy part. Nope. We've been in Evansville for... like five or six years now. And it's only been two people. So two people with no supervision. And it's just, what could go wrong? You know what I mean? Like, I don't know. I don't want to get too deep into it because we've got so many other things to talk about. But yeah, I've just been very, very busy. Running back and forth. And then, of course, everything that's been going on. And like you said, dog duty. Actually, after this show, I have to go over there and make sure the dogs haven't killed each other. Fair enough. So, yeah, it's been hectic. But overall, pretty good. Still enjoying my Gran Turismo 7. Death Stranding 2. Is that out? It is. Oh, okay, sick. So the way I break it down, I do my daily workout on Gran Turismo 7, which is you got to drive like 26 miles, 26.6 miles or something like that. Get that in and then do some photo shoots. Get used to that a little bit more. You've seen them. You've seen them. Yep, yep, yep. Looking good. Thank you. Grazie, grazie. And then after I'm done with that, I switch over to Death Stranding 2 if I have the time and if I feel like it. If I'm not super tired, I'll play a few hours of Death Stranding. And it has been... Because it's... Buddy, the story is getting really good. The action is getting stupid. It is like... I'm loving it. I'm, I'm, I'm really loving it. So, um, yeah, that's pretty much been it though. Nothing, nothing too crazy, but, um, yeah. So there you go. That's what my pulse looks like. Um, hell yeah. You know, you know what I'm in the mood for?
SPEAKER_03:What's that?
SPEAKER_02:Entertainment news. Hmm. How about you? Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:You can use some.
SPEAKER_02:So, um, Remember we were kind of chit-chatting about AI?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:It's a little weird that we've spoken about AI so much on this channel. Like, on this show, we have talked about AI so much. And I think it's because... And not
SPEAKER_03:the basketball AI.
SPEAKER_02:No, not Allen Iverson. He's not part of this conversation.
SPEAKER_03:Which is a shame.
SPEAKER_02:For the joke. It is a shame. I want to talk about Allen Iverson. Words are hard. They
SPEAKER_03:really are. They be getting me sometimes.
SPEAKER_02:No, seriously, they do. They do. It's awful. So AI, we've been talking about it a lot. This is what I found out just like earlier today. You ready for it?
SPEAKER_03:Yep.
SPEAKER_02:AI is at it again. At it again! Street Fighter 6 had an art contest. Yeah, so it's a new Challenger edition, and apparently they caught the winner plagiarizing using AI. Wow.
SPEAKER_03:Are we really surprised, though,
SPEAKER_02:at this point? I mean, no, but... How do they win? That's
SPEAKER_03:an honest question.
SPEAKER_02:How do they win? People, especially when I get online and I'm reading comments, shit like that, and there are so many people that are out there that are like, how can you not tell that that's AI? How can you not tell that? I mean, obviously it's getting good enough to, you
SPEAKER_03:know. It's getting
SPEAKER_02:good. You know what I mean? Like it's getting good enough to put into a contest and win.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:So what are we doing?
SPEAKER_03:You know, I want to know who judged the contest.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, that would be.
SPEAKER_03:Because I think that my eyes are still good enough.
SPEAKER_02:To know what's AI and what isn't.
SPEAKER_03:The AI?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:But I've seen videos on TikTok, the forbidden social media platform, or Instagram Reels, of videos of people's grandmas, or even people our parents' age, looking at these videos, and the kids are like, Mom, you know that's fake, or Dad, you know that's not real, right?
UNKNOWN:Yep.
SPEAKER_03:And they're like, it looks so real. And I'm like, man. So, like, how much more time do my eyes have?
SPEAKER_01:I don't know.
SPEAKER_03:Before I can't suss it out. I don't know. I like to think it can't pull one over on me.
SPEAKER_02:Right.
SPEAKER_03:Because me being an artist, I feel like I'm really in tune to that shit. Yeah. But, like... I don't know, man. Maybe one day.
SPEAKER_02:Maybe one day. Maybe one day. That'll be
SPEAKER_03:the day that I punch out.
SPEAKER_02:Alright, that's it. I'm out. It's been fun. No, but the story, this is the story, says, from GoNintendo, by the way, says, Capcom yanks Winning entry in Street Fighter Art Contest New Challenger Edition. Contest due to AI usage.
SPEAKER_03:Do we have a photo of it?
SPEAKER_02:So there is a photo. There's at
SPEAKER_03:least one winning photo.
SPEAKER_02:There is one photo of it. I'd have to find it, but I just have the story. We can look it up later. That would probably be the best idea, but Capcom was promoting their art contest, obviously, and they did put it in the rules that you couldn't use AI or anything like that. Now, apparently, the person that entered that piece of work, had just created their Instagram account maybe a week or two prior to that. So you knew that they knew that they were going to do some dumb shit.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:So if you know it's wrong, why do it?
SPEAKER_03:You know, sometimes I think I'm fully convinced that people, even though they know they're doing something they shouldn't, are just wired for some reason to see what they can get away with. Okay. How many times have we seen this at the grocery store where there's a little kid with their mom or their dad or both their parents are with them? Very rare. Yeah. and little kids doing something and the parents like little johnny stop doing that and then it just looks back and then proceeds to do the thing you know and you're just like you literally just want to watch the world burn yeah so i think people are just wired that way
SPEAKER_02:so like i could get behind that i i truly can't but For a child, I mean, they're still learning. They're still growing. So they're curious. You know what I mean? And children will push boundaries to see what they can get away with until my mom or dad says, no, you can't do that. And then it becomes a serious, no, you can't do that, rather than the A, stop. hey, stop. Like, there are levels, right? And every child knows that. And when you're young, you start learning that. And you're like, oh, his tone is changing. Interesting. Let me see. Stop it! Stop it! No! Oh, okay. That's where it gets serious. You know, so it's like, I mean, again, I can get behind that because there are grown-ass people that will Push buttons just to push buttons. So...
SPEAKER_03:What's that famous quote from Batman?
SPEAKER_02:Some people just want to watch the world burn.
SPEAKER_03:That's the one. I really do think it is like that sometimes. This is an extreme case, but when you think about people like Charles Manson, Ted Bundy, these really crazy motherfuckers.
SPEAKER_02:Crazy bitches.
SPEAKER_03:Just doing shit, man.
SPEAKER_02:Doing shit. Seeing what they can do. Just to do it. I don't know. Maybe
SPEAKER_03:I've been trying to secretly in the background while you were talking, find this image. This is one of those rare cases because I don't know what it looked like to begin with.
SPEAKER_02:Yep.
SPEAKER_03:Like, has the Internet actually expunged it? Because I don't know. Oh,
SPEAKER_02:you can't find it?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I don't know what I would be finding if I found it.
SPEAKER_02:So supposedly it was an image of Kimberly from Street Fighter 6. Which one's Kimberly? That's a good question. I think she is. Fuck, hang on. Hold, please. Analyzing white hair by chance. No, I don't think so. I think her hair is like bluish, something like that. hang on uh kimberly street fighter oops street fighter six nope not five six street fighter six okay so nope
SPEAKER_03:yeah i don't know man god damn it there's a bunch of there's a bunch of images but they just I just want there to be an article that says, this is the winning image, but it's gone.
SPEAKER_02:That's what she looks like. That's what Kimberly looks like.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, okay, okay, okay. Then this might be... I
SPEAKER_02:am curious as to what it looks
SPEAKER_03:like. It might be this. I know you can't really see that, and I'm not putting effort into leaning forward. That's the only thing... That's the only thing that consistently pops up. There's also this one, but this doesn't look like it would be AI. This just looks like a cartoon.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Yeah, that's the one that keeps popping up on all the threads or the stories that I see. It could be. I don't know.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, so I don't see anything, but I do want to... analyze an image that we haven't seen if it's something like that second one where it is like almost like a animation style illustration
SPEAKER_01:uh-huh
SPEAKER_03:i could see i could see this being ai now that i'm staring at it i i could see somebody prompting like maybe putting Let's give them the benefit of the doubt. Let's say that they put their own drawing, like a rough sketch, and then put it in, and it was like... Or they probably did it. I'm not going to give them the benefit of the doubt. I changed everything. They put in a few images of this character, and they're like... They ask it to turn this into a drawing illustration or a digital painting. And then it does it. And then they go in and digitally paint over top of. I've seen that. I've seen that at Comic-Cons. Now, is that cheating? I don't know how to answer that right now. Because throughout history, we've seen artists take magazine clippings, photographs even, and put them... in a collage and then do a painting over top of it or like do it digitally where they take a bunch of images and then they smear it all around. And then it's like, where do you draw the line from saying like, like, is that art or is that not art? And at what, like what capacity makes one an artist? Because you could make the argument that they are like, using things that are already there but like are recomposing them
SPEAKER_02:yep
SPEAKER_03:so i could i could see that being like if you use ai to like get a jumping point and then you go in and manipulate over top of it. I don't hate it, but what I do hate is how much you manipulate. Like if you, if you change one thing, like if you alter the colors, that's not good enough for me. No, I get that. Like paint over top. I need it to be like layers. Right. Right. Not one singular layer.
SPEAKER_02:So I changed the earring.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. I didn't like the flip flops.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:I put Crocs
SPEAKER_02:on it. The most vanilla ice thing you could possibly do. I
SPEAKER_03:added
SPEAKER_02:that part. What? Not good enough.
SPEAKER_03:That was beautifully said. Don't vanilla ice it.
SPEAKER_02:Don't vanilla ice it.
UNKNOWN:Fuck.
SPEAKER_02:Vanilla ice don't sue us. But no, like, I agree with you. Where do we draw the line? Because, again, an argument can be made about fan art, whatever, but the problem is when AI is pulling from shit that's already there that is literally just putting it on paper. When somebody makes fan art, They add their own twist to it. Even though it might look... Yeah, even though it might look... Some might look almost exactly like it, but there is this... I don't know if you want to call it nuance or what have you, but you can tell there's some kind of difference. You can tell there's something there that is their signature. Every image they draw, it belongs to them.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, you could, for lack of better terms, summarize it as the artist filter.
SPEAKER_02:Right. right there you go that that's probably the best way to put it is they run it through their own filter and yes again it might look pretty damn similar but you're like that's not the same like you can tell ai is literally like okay so it's gonna take this picture of goku right and If that's what you want Now it might It's going to fuck up the hands Because for some reason AI can barely do hands
SPEAKER_03:Yeah I mean You know what To be fair Every artist's journey
SPEAKER_02:The hands
SPEAKER_03:Comes with the mountain of hands I get it You have to draw a mountain of hands Just to get one good hand
SPEAKER_02:Something about
SPEAKER_03:hands That's what AI's are working
SPEAKER_02:on right now Hands and fingers?
SPEAKER_03:Fingers for some reason?
SPEAKER_02:Why are they so hard to draw?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. So brittle at the same time.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, so stupid.
SPEAKER_03:So
SPEAKER_02:stupid. So stupid. But no, I found that interesting because I was like, at least Capcom did the right thing. They pulled the winner and said, okay, you can continue voting and we'll get somebody who actually put time and effort into this and didn't just, you know, phone it in. Cause that's kind of feel like, I feel like that's kind of what it is, right? Like you're just, let me type something real quick. Oh, it looks decent. Let me just throw that in there.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Okay. As opposed to, uh, I've seen a few on Facebook. I wish I would have saved that one instead of this one. Cause some people show like what they do, entered and there was an Akuma one that was fucking dope. I was like, how did they not win? You know, I was like, what? This doesn't make any sense. So I don't know. Again, we talk about AI a lot and I think it is due to the fact that it is, you know, it's here and it's rapidly growing and I will always follow up our conversation with that statement it is rapidly growing we can't escape it it's here and it's just gonna continue to get bigger and bigger and bigger until it's damn near controlling everything that you do so
SPEAKER_03:yeah i you know it's a double-edged sword because on one hand it's scary It's new. It's in many ways misunderstood. Yes, for sure. A lot of it is fear-based, and everything that we know about horror tells us that the fear of the unknown is the biggest fear of all. Yep. And because a lot of us don't understand it or don't know its true power, I think that's where it boils into a little bit. What's its true capacity? Is this thing going to take over us? That's what a lot of people... Like Skynet, oh no. But on the other hand, as long as it's not weaponized, it should never turn against us.
SPEAKER_02:It should, but... When you look
SPEAKER_03:at things like nuclear power, if it was never weaponized, dude, if we never weaponized nuclear power, the world that I think the people were trying to build in the 50s, what they were trying to build is what the Fantastic Four movie, I think, looks like.
SPEAKER_01:Ooh. You know
SPEAKER_03:what I'm saying? Like nuclear fusion, nuclear power, it's clean energy. You know, as long as it's stable and it's not weaponized.
SPEAKER_02:Now, we already know somebody out there somewhere is going to be like, I need this.
UNKNOWN:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:To take over the world. Like, we have a pinky in the brain. Yeah, there's always one. To ruin it for everybody. Like, bro, why? This is why we can't have nice things. God damn it. Absolutely. Absolutely.
SPEAKER_03:Absolutely.
SPEAKER_02:So, I don't
SPEAKER_03:know. The point I was trying to make is I think that AI, you know, with, like, the power of... How do I word it? Like automation. And, you know, there's a lot of jobs that we do as humans that should be automated. Yeah. Because it would just make living easier. I agree. And I know the counter argument is like, oh, people are going to lose their jobs. What are they going to do? Well, if we look at everything negatively. we can find a reason to fear it, hate it, whatever. Absolutely. But if we think positively, like, Hey, if I don't have to do this mundane task of picking products for Amazon, yeah, I could go back to school. I get better. Now I know that these problems would be better off if like education wasn't so expensive and so on and so forth. One problem out of time here.
SPEAKER_01:Right. One foot in front of the other.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Yeah. Assuming that like everything is going well and education is not crazy, we could, you know, these people that are maybe being displaced from these jobs being more automated, they can go on and like learn how to oversee the operation because everything that's automated is going to need a human as a backup. Yes. To make sure everything runs smoothly.
SPEAKER_01:Yep.
SPEAKER_03:So like, that's where people could like expand and pivot. And like, who knows, maybe like, I don't know. It just opens the door for possibilities. And I think instead of fearing artificial intelligence, we should usher it cautiously. I
SPEAKER_02:agree. I agree with you because as we said, it's here, it's here to stay. So we need to learn to live with it and not, I don't want to say this. Again, I've been saying multiple times, if we use it like the tool it's supposed to be used for, everybody should love AI. They should. It should make life so much easier. Again, make it be a third hand, a second brain. Hey, you know, I need, you know.
SPEAKER_03:Second brain is brilliant.
SPEAKER_02:Right?
SPEAKER_03:We already kind of use it like that. Yeah. Alexa, Siri, whatever the other versions are. Yeah,
SPEAKER_02:which one? What else do we have?
SPEAKER_03:Oh, Google. Google. I guess it's just Google. Yeah, because when you say, okay, Google. Yeah, Google's so pretentious, they were like, yeah, we're not going to give
SPEAKER_02:it a name. Yeah, it doesn't need a name.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, you just talk to us. Yeah. But I mean, that's the thing, right? I think AI is... Okay. Final thought on it. AI shouldn't do creative work. It should do mundane tasks that help us be better humans.
SPEAKER_02:Agreed. Agreed. Agreed. I like that final
SPEAKER_03:thought. Because I'm the emotional one. I'm the one that can see and feel and hear and touch and taste. That's where creativity comes from in my mind. Creativity is an extension of our senses in a weird, abstract, artsy-fartsy way.
SPEAKER_02:Artsy-fartsy.
SPEAKER_03:And I don't think AI will ever be truly capable of it. It can only mimic. It can never do what we do.
SPEAKER_02:Right. I agree. I agree. Good final thought. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. All right. So, you know, you heard it here, folks. Street Fighter 6, Capcom, good job on controlling that whole situation. Go vote. You know, I loved Street Fighter 6. I didn't know that it was going on. Otherwise, I would have threw my hat in the ring. But, you know, it is what it is. There's always next year.
SPEAKER_03:Do they do it yearly?
SPEAKER_02:So this is supposedly just their second year doing it. So it's kind of new. Yeah, it's kind of new.
SPEAKER_03:Now, do you know if the first one happened the same time the second one is? I don't know.
SPEAKER_02:I got to look into it. Like in the
SPEAKER_03:summer? I have no idea. You know what? Fuck it. You and I should just make art for it for next time. Hey, hell yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Ready to roll. Yeah. Ready to roll. Fuck
SPEAKER_03:that.
SPEAKER_02:We don't need that.
SPEAKER_03:And then when it comes around, we're like, oh, cool.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Hey, check this out. I like it. I like it. Be be pro. active. That's what I'm hearing.
SPEAKER_03:Be, be ready. So we don't got to stay ready, man. Yeah. Something backwards. That's okay. Ready. So I don't got to be
SPEAKER_02:ready. No, be ready. So we may not have to stay ready and then get ready. And then something about ready. Anyway, words are hard. All right. Um, Do we want some Reddit roulette since Yeti isn't here? I
SPEAKER_03:think in honor of Yeti, we should do Reddit roulette. Reddit roulette.
SPEAKER_02:All right. We'll do some Reddit roulette. So I am going to ask you, pick a number between 1 and 2.4. Ooh. 2. What? Two. Okay. One. I don't know if it spun. No, it didn't.
SPEAKER_03:It spun good enough. One.
SPEAKER_02:Two. Okay. Which one am I doing? Top? Bottom?
UNKNOWN:Hmm.
SPEAKER_02:Which one are you? Anyway... For the joke. Thank you, thank you. So at the top, we have, am I the asshole for not letting my husband meet our firstborn child? Or...
SPEAKER_03:Topical, topical.
SPEAKER_02:Or, am I the asshole for wanting to get married?
SPEAKER_03:That's it?
SPEAKER_02:I mean, there's stuff in between. No,
SPEAKER_03:no, no, no, no. No, I'm saying, I'm saying, was that the title? Yeah, that's the title.
SPEAKER_02:That's the title for wanting to get married.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, my God. That was beautiful.
SPEAKER_02:So let's go. Let's go with this one here. Am I the asshole for not letting my husband meet our firstborn child? We'll roll with that. Oh, fuck. Shit.
SPEAKER_03:A lot of words.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, shit. It's not too
SPEAKER_03:late to back out.
SPEAKER_02:That's a long one. That's what she said? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. We're not going to do that. What's the spark notes? Cliff's notes. Did you say spark notes?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Fucking shit. Yeah, this is long. Like incredibly long. Like super long. Like Really long.
SPEAKER_03:In summary, without even looking at it, probably the asshole. Oh, Lord. Why you ask? Because there's a lot of words.
SPEAKER_02:So the consensus is not the asshole, surprisingly. So do we want to read it? Do we want to stick with this? Grizz, when I say it's long...
SPEAKER_03:Did you scroll more than you did for the roulette?
SPEAKER_02:Yes. We should move on.
SPEAKER_03:Look at all them paragraphs.
SPEAKER_02:It's still going. It's still going. This
SPEAKER_03:could have been an email.
SPEAKER_02:Finally over. I
SPEAKER_03:tell you what, let's read the first comment. It seemed smaller.
SPEAKER_02:Less words. Less fucking words. Hang on. We can
SPEAKER_03:read the first paragraph and the last paragraph and see if we can figure it out.
SPEAKER_02:We could. Like you'd... Fuck. I just fill in the gaps.
SPEAKER_03:Let's do it.
SPEAKER_02:I
SPEAKER_03:didn't even mean to bring all these guns out
SPEAKER_02:for the joke, for the joke.
SPEAKER_03:You're
SPEAKER_02:like, you're like South park right now. It's fucking, it's fucking crazy. Um, no. So, okay. So it says my husband has this best friend, Anna. They've been friends for a long time and dated years ago, mutually deciding that it's best for them to remain friends. I've had no problem with this relationship until now.
SPEAKER_03:Oh. This might be worth the read.
SPEAKER_02:Okay. You want me to continue?
SPEAKER_03:I'm not going to lie. I'm pretty hooked
SPEAKER_02:on that first sentence. Uh-oh. Okay. I will carry on. What did he do? What did this motherfucker do? Okay, so on that day, on the day that I gave birth, Anna's brother got into a car accident. My husband got a call from her in the middle of the night and asked him if he could drop her at the hospital her brother was at, an hour away from us, since she was too scared to drive. My husband agreed, told me quickly while I was half asleep and rushed out. A few hours later, I had contractions and called my husband. He didn't pick up after multiple tries, so I gave up and called my dad, who drove me to the local hospital 12 minutes away. I was so scared of giving birth alone since I've had about three miscarriages and one stillborn.
SPEAKER_03:Okay. How many paragraphs has this been?
SPEAKER_02:Three
SPEAKER_03:so far. You don't need to read any further. He's an asshole.
SPEAKER_02:He's an asshole. okay
SPEAKER_03:and here's here's why
SPEAKER_02:let me explain
SPEAKER_03:you like like in the middle of the night in
SPEAKER_02:the middle of the night
SPEAKER_03:if i get if i get a phone call from
SPEAKER_02:in the middle of the night
SPEAKER_03:i'm likely not going to pick up anyway because i'm dead asleep yeah but if on the off chance i do wake up and on the other end of that phone line my friend who happens to be a female that I used to date eons ago, says, my brother got in a car accident and I need to go to the hospital he's at. If the first words out of my mouth isn't, my wife is due sometime in the next 48 to 24 hours? No?
SPEAKER_02:No. No.
SPEAKER_03:Then I'm an asshole. Yeah, you're an asshole. Immediately. Immediately. Like, there's not another friend you can call. Guess not. There's not that person's own parents they can't call. Nope. Fuck it. You know what? Nine non-emergent police number and have an escort take you. No shit. You might have to ride in the backseat, but they'd probably do it.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I'm sure they would. But for a car accident, I bet you. Depending on how severe it was, I'm willing to bet they would take you over there. You could probably call, like you said, non-emergency help, maybe even 911. Because, I mean, somebody's going to have to call it for the accident anyway.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah. Just, hey, can you take me to the hospital my brother's at?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:And then bill my brother.
SPEAKER_02:Throw it on his bill.
UNKNOWN:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, but that's crazy. So no more? You don't need any more?
SPEAKER_03:Honestly, I mean, it's up to you, but I feel like there's no way there's a redeeming arc if those are the first three paragraphs.
SPEAKER_01:And it
SPEAKER_03:was titled, Am I an Asshole for Not Letting My Husband See the Child?
SPEAKER_02:I
SPEAKER_03:mean, there's no redemption arc, right?
SPEAKER_02:Hang on, hang on. So my husband promised me that no matter what, he'd be there for me. Guess what? He wasn't. We called multiple times while I was in labor, and when he finally picked up my dad's call when I was giving birth, saying that he'd misplaced his phone in the chaos, my dad informed me, or informed him, that no matter how fast he drives anymore, he's going to miss the birth of his child. Well, my husband took that as, he's already screwed up, so it doesn't matter when he shows up at this point. So when he finally came... Our daughter was about five hours old and I'd already moved to the maternity ward. When he came, I refused to let him see our baby. Edit. Did let husband hold and play with the baby after discharge because I was so high on emotions and was shaking when I saw him and didn't want it negatively affect my time with the babies. I wanted her birth to be a happy time and I was already struggling to feed her. My husband was in a bad state and told me to please let him see her. So I told him to stand by the window and held the baby up so he could see her. I told him to then leave and he'll be allowed to interact with the baby at my father's home when we're both well and out of the hospital and that I was most likely divorcing him. Woo! The plot thickens.
SPEAKER_03:I'm still standing firm on my he's an asshole. He is an asshole. I don't know how steep of an asshole he is now.
SPEAKER_02:Well.
SPEAKER_03:All right, I'm fucking locked in. Let's get
SPEAKER_02:it. Okay. He started bawling, crying, and apologizing, and defended himself by saying that Anna's brother was in serious critical condition, and although he's fine, Anna needed him. Though Anna's parents were there, she's not that close with them, and she was in an unbearable state. I told them that I didn't care and that his daughter has already come second to him, and all she did was be born. I'm putting my daughter's and my health first and won't let her be sidelined. My husband agreed and left. However... Anna called me later and said that I was being controlling and she'd never met someone as cruel as me for not letting a father see his baby. I told her that my husband made his decision and that this was his doing, not mine. But now I can't help feel cruel in my actions and feel like I'm depriving my baby of both her parents being together. My husband sees her a few hours each day now. Am I the asshole?
SPEAKER_03:Man. If it was something as simple as... I didn't let my husband see my daughter after she was born because he chose to give his... ex-partner now friend arrived to the hospital and he missed the birth of my our daughter's uh missed the birth of our daughter and that was like the end of the story she was like nope you gotta wait until i get home from the hospital if that was the end of the story she's not an asshole okay he's very much the asshole in my opinion I don't know how many straws have been dropped for this to occur and her to be like, all right, that's it. I'm fucking done. This was such a low effort branch.
SPEAKER_02:Right.
SPEAKER_03:All you had to do was show up.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, that was low-hanging fruit. Like, literally, it's just show up for the birth of your child. Just be there. Yeah, just be there. That's it.
SPEAKER_03:And he ultimately, at the end of the day, he wasn't there for that.
SPEAKER_02:He chose not to. He chose not
SPEAKER_03:to. He chose not to be there. whatever the excuse is after that choice of giving that friend a ride losing his cell phone likely story yeah uh honestly honestly could have very well happened
SPEAKER_02:yeah he could have it doesn't look good though the the the optics don't look good
SPEAKER_03:like i i honestly i don't think he lost his phone i don't think so either left it in the car yeah left it in the car and just chose to not be bothered but why would you do that when you know your wife is pregnant
SPEAKER_02:yeah you know she's your baby Yeah, your baby's due any moment.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. So... Like, when you get to... Now, unless... His only redemption would be that the baby came a couple weeks early.
SPEAKER_02:Right. Yeah, yeah. Did she carry the full
SPEAKER_03:term?
SPEAKER_02:It's not. You
SPEAKER_03:know? It's not. It's not. Like, if you know that your wife is in her third trimester, that phone is on. Yeah. Always.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Like, you know what I'm saying? Yep. And, like, you definitely don't leave it somewhere. No. No. in the rush of things yeah no shit the chaos drive to the hospital
SPEAKER_02:hello what rush you got all that time the fuck what do you mean
SPEAKER_03:low-key i want some more updates like was her brother actually in the hospital
SPEAKER_02:so you know okay okay all right you want more But
SPEAKER_03:wait. But wait, there is more. While you look for that, I'll finish my little thought. Okay. I think that initially hearing it, I feel like it seems extreme to divorce him over something like this.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_03:But I have a suspicion that this is not We don't have all of the information. Correct. There are some unknown variables. There is some unknown variables that could be very well valid for deciding, you know what, I don't want part of this anymore. Yeah. And if I'm being 100% honest, she owes nobody anything for her decision on anything. Nope. It's her life.
SPEAKER_02:Exactly. It's her baby. Yeah. The
SPEAKER_03:fuck? And, like, yeah, you can make the argument of, oh, I don't want to deprive my daughter who has no say in this, has no choice in what's going on. I don't want to, like, you know... ruin her life so to speak with like having a broken family or whatnot and it's like nah see that's an old-ass value because like you don't have to stay together to be together and you don't have to like force yourself to be unhappy in a marriage for a child you could end up giving a better life as a single parent
SPEAKER_02:absolutely absolutely especially when the child sees you happy What's
SPEAKER_03:going to be a core memory for that child? Watching two parents fight miserably as it's growing up and not understanding why mommy and daddy hate each other? Or seeing you fucking thriving as a single parent, assuming that both parties can be mutually... Yeah, respectful. Respectful. You don't have to be hateful. We just didn't work out. Now we got to raise a baby together. Fucking suck it up.
SPEAKER_02:The problem is people aren't... They can't manage
SPEAKER_03:that. No, they can't, dude. So there
SPEAKER_02:is... So there is an edit. That's where a lot of the extra shit came in from. So the first edit says, I feel like this is useful information and could explain why I was so mad. Anna's brother was not in a life-death situation. He had serious injuries, but most were concentrated on his legs and arm. He did have a concussion, but gained consciousness soon. Anna was there along with both her parents who managed all the hospital stuff. My husband was there as emotional support. For Anna. I don't know, but I'm still so mad at him. And it's not the first time he put Anna before me. I can, I can forgive the other times since I could handle it, but this time was the straw. So now I'm curious how many times, you know what I'm saying? Like you said, you called it, nailed it. How many times has this happened? Cause obviously like, Somebody doesn't just say divorce the moment that happens, right? I can see it happening through an emotional state, especially just having a baby, all that kind of stuff. But to go to that extreme and stick to your guns.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Yeah, saying it after the emotions of having birth, because there's a lot going on with your body, I assume. Yep. I'm never going to know what that feels like. Yeah, me neither. I can assume with context clues. Right. There's a lot going on. Yeah. And I could see someone in, like you said, a heightened state of emotion to be like, I'm going to fucking divorce this motherfucker. I ain't doing this shit no more. Yep. And then after a couple hours or days or whatever it takes, you'd be like, you know what? I was being stupid. silly yeah that's crazy i've reacted yeah right but one thing that i've come to realize in in this 35 young years that i've been on this earth is people don't just snap
SPEAKER_02:yeah
SPEAKER_03:just like bridges don't just fall
SPEAKER_02:yep
SPEAKER_03:there's there is a weight to capacity ratio that occurs when in a mental form for when somebody has a psychotic break or a meltdown. Yep. Um, and, and I think that that same formula is, uh, applied to if a relationship is dissolving with somebody, like you don't just snap and say, I want out of this after one thing.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:It's usually like a combination and, um, I'd be curious on how many times because the human capacity to forgive and kind of like Let bygones be bygones type of thing is way greater than I think that I have the capacity to understand. Because I see people time and time again forgiving motherfuckers who don't deserve it in my humblest of opinions. But there's also no right or wrong for... what that amount of forgiveness should look like or not look like. So like, like, I don't think if, if, if, for instance, if this was me, if I was this lady and this happened to me and this was the very first time, I feel like I would be well within my right to be like, nah, I'm done. Yeah. And then someone, cause someone can make the argument. Well, it was only one time. Yeah. But it was one really fucking important time. No shit. But you know
SPEAKER_02:what I mean? But you want an update? Yes. Not just an edit, but an update to the situation.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah,
SPEAKER_02:yeah. Okay, because this is going to be where not the asshole. She's not the asshole in the least bit. So update.
SPEAKER_03:Before you update. Yes. I'm still in the she's not an asshole camp. I have been from the third paragraph. Right, right,
SPEAKER_02:right. Samesies. So edit. Says, thank you, everyone, for your replies. I think that I was an asshole for using my child against him and should have told him that he could hold and then asked him to leave. So the divorce is probably going to happen. My brother's looking at lawyers for me. In the midst of this whole mess, this post made me realize I never checked on Anna's brother to see how he's healing because I was so irked by Anna. I called him, and he said that he was doing well and will be out of his wheelchair soon. He asked about me and the baby and how I was doing with the split and if I was okay with my husband and... Anna. Uh-oh. Says, I can't believe I was so oblivious. I thought they had an emotional thing going on because of this, and when I confronted my husband, he denied it. and said me and our baby were his priority and he made a mistake, in quotes, and he was being dumb. Yeah, no. Anna's brother kindly informed me that he and Anna's parents thought that my husband and I split when I was seven months pregnant and that Anna and him were back on. He showed up at the hospital as Anna's boyfriend, which is why they didn't bat an eye that he was there and not with his pregnant wife, because apparently we split. Her brother's procedures were done well before the afternoon, so I don't know why. So I don't know that my husband and Anna split. Uh-huh. They thought they had split? Bro, they've been seeing each other. That was not the ex.
SPEAKER_03:Listen, I'm flabbergasted. Right? I shouldn't be surprised. However, I am shocked. What?
SPEAKER_01:Bro.
SPEAKER_03:What? I don't know. Okay, that's crazy. So that means when she called in the middle of the night or whatever.
SPEAKER_02:Yep.
SPEAKER_03:And she said it was going to be an hour drive. That was all a hoax.
SPEAKER_02:It's all bullshit. That was all bullshit. Who even knows
SPEAKER_03:if that hospital was an hour away?
SPEAKER_02:Who knows? Who
SPEAKER_03:knows? Like a few rooms down. Yo. Yo. That's crazy. That's fucking wild. Yeah. Anything's possible. I mean, they could have come up with this plan. This bitch could have been like, man, I really miss my mans.
SPEAKER_01:I'm
SPEAKER_03:going to come up with this plan on my own, and when he gets here, I'll cue him in.
SPEAKER_02:That's wild work. That's terrible.
SPEAKER_03:I found out where his phone was. It wasn't lost. It wasn't lost. It wasn't lost.
SPEAKER_02:What chaos are we talking about, sir?
SPEAKER_03:My man's over here writing bars. My phone was lost in the midst of chaos.
SPEAKER_02:Fire. Fire. He's spitting, y'all. Let him cook. Let him cook. He's cooking
SPEAKER_03:right now. He's got himself in a boil. That's fucking
SPEAKER_02:crazy, bro. Here's the thing. It's going to be interesting how that turns out, how that ends, because if Anna's parents and her brother thought that they were together... And he was split with the wife. What happens when they find out he's going through a divorce now from the wife they thought he split from? Are the parents going to be like, yo, so you were... And you, my daughter, were... You know what? Nah. Like, nah, you can go. You can go.
SPEAKER_03:Is Anna... supposed to be the same or similar age range? Because it was an ex from before, right? Yes.
SPEAKER_02:So I would assume they're probably about the same age.
SPEAKER_03:And if he's old enough to have kids, that's at least 15. So...
SPEAKER_02:well well if you ask hang on wait for the joke if you ask Epstein you know wait
SPEAKER_01:oh shit
SPEAKER_02:for the joke so hey we'll never know I guess we'll never know for the joke so
SPEAKER_03:oh my god you can't stop us
SPEAKER_02:But no, that's wild behavior. That is wild behavior that you would literally... You'd miss the birth of your child to go fuck around. Like I said, it almost sounds like Anna was not the ex. She wasn't an ex. I'd venture to say they were fucking each other the entire time.
SPEAKER_03:So... If you look here on this chart, the more you fuck around,
SPEAKER_02:the more you're going to find out. Brought to you by Forky. Because guess what? That guy was trash for the joke. So, yeah. You know, I'm kind of glad we stuck with that. It seemed long, but it was mostly edits. So I'm good with that. And then we got an update. So I like that.
SPEAKER_03:You know, I'm glad we stuck with that one, too, because I don't think that we could have topped that story. No, we couldn't. Times. Times Magazine. Where you at? I have a story for you.
SPEAKER_02:No shit. That is like. That's almost Hallmark-worthy. You could make a Hallmark movie out of that.
SPEAKER_03:That'll almost make you forget that there's Epstein files out there.
SPEAKER_02:That's what I'm saying! For the joke! For the joke! Because we're coming for your head! So, yeah, that's crazy. And you know what? In the midst of all of that, dude couldn't focus. So it sounded like he probably needed a shot of Magic Mind. See what I did there? See what I did there? That was well placed. Thank you. Thank you. Wait, wait, wait. Everybody cheering me on. Yeah, Magic Mind. It is a wonderful little mental performance shot. Jesus Christ. Why were it so hard today?
SPEAKER_03:It's Friday.
SPEAKER_02:I don't know. Maybe that is
SPEAKER_03:it.
SPEAKER_02:But no, it's a mental performance shot. It's got 12 little magical ingredients. It's got lion's mane. It's got L-theanine. You got matcha tea in there that'll give you a little caffeine. And the L-theanine will help you absorb that caffeine at a decent rate to where it'll keep you awake and alert pretty much all day. Okay. And it doesn't taste bad. You would think so because it's green and most people associate green stuff to being like, ugh. But I'm telling you right now, this thing tastes fabulous. And it's only a little show. It is. Listen to Grizz. He knows what he's talking about.
SPEAKER_03:Now, do you drink yours ice cold right out of the fridge?
SPEAKER_02:Oh, yeah. oh
SPEAKER_03:yeah yeah
SPEAKER_02:like like they say you don't have to drink it refrigerated but refrigerate refrigeration does something to drinks some drinks some drinks it just hits different yeah it's
SPEAKER_03:it scratches a part of my brain that's like this is pretty nice
SPEAKER_02:right right right right so it's like you know get get you try it out you know try out some magic mind um it'll It gives you gives you like calm energy, helps you focus, gets you into a flow state, into the zone, as they say. And excuse me. And it's got ashwagandha to calm you down, chill you out. So if you had a stressful day, you know, you can just pop one of these and you're like. Yeah, you know, that sounds like your problem, man. You know, so it's like... That
SPEAKER_03:sounds like your opinion.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, that's like your opinion, man. I'm glad you picked up on that. That's the best
SPEAKER_03:dude reference I'm gonna have. That's
SPEAKER_02:all I got. That's all I got. I'm out. Tapped out. But no, if you want to try Magic Mine, feel free to stop by at www.magicmine.com and use our discount code FMJPOD20 that'll give you 48% off your first subscription to Magic Mind or 20% off one-time purchases. Go ahead, give it a try. I am gonna pop one right now because just like that dude in the story, he can't focus on the right things, right? Like, what the fuck, bro? Don't be like that guy. man. Clear the corners. Clear those corners!
SPEAKER_03:Clear the corners. Corners cleared.
SPEAKER_02:Corners cleared. Focus is going up. I feel it working right now. It's so nice. So nice.
SPEAKER_03:Alright! That might be the closest thing that we have in our universe to a sensu bean.
SPEAKER_02:Yo.
SPEAKER_01:You're
SPEAKER_03:welcome.
SPEAKER_02:Yo. I didn't even think about that. I didn't. I honestly didn't. But that's a good one. That's a good one. No, he is. Let him cook. Let him cook. Because goddamn. I said, I didn't even think about that. It's green, too. It is green. Just like I said to be. So there you go. All right. So today we got stuff to talk about. What are we talking about? Willis. What you talking about, Willis? Wait. We're talking about. For the joke.
SPEAKER_03:Strange and unusual stories.
SPEAKER_02:Strange
SPEAKER_03:stories. That you wouldn't believe are true. That
SPEAKER_02:you wouldn't believe are true.
SPEAKER_03:Or something like that. Something
SPEAKER_02:like that. So, yeah, there are lots of stories out there from many people. That could be paranormal, maybe just something weird that they've seen one day. And so strange, out of the ordinary, out of the blue, from the left field. And they're like, I wish I was recording, because nobody is going to believe this. Because it's so strange. And if I tell anybody, they're going to look at me like I'm some kind of green bug. And probably shoo me away like one, you know, like, get out of here. Get out of here. Get out of here. You're so full of shit. You're in the macaroni salad. Right, get out of here. You're in the macaroni salad. So I just want to give an example of a strange story, a weird story that is so strange that you won't believe it's true. So I'm on Reddit. and it says, what's your no one will ever believe this true story? Here's the first one. It says, my weirdest true story that's most likely not paranormal. Waiting for a city bus one day near an intersection. Perfectly normal day. Normal looking car drives past. As it approaches the traffic light, I notice there's a murderer of around 30 crows flying behind the car. I don't know a lot of people that use the word murder, especially in the right context, but good job. Right, right. But they say there are about 30 crows flying behind the car, like one car length up in the air and one length behind. Car turns left at the traffic light. The crows turn left and follow it. Weirdest fucking thing, and I couldn't get my phone out in time to take a video. It's like if the crows were balloons on a 15-foot string, that's how tightly they were following that car. And it drives me crazy because I will never know what happened. Did the driver kill a crow? Was the driver a witch? What happened when the driver got out of the car wherever they were going?
SPEAKER_03:That's crazy work.
SPEAKER_02:That's fucking wild. Could you imagine?
SPEAKER_03:I mean, like, yeah, because would crows do that under the certain variable? I think yes.
SPEAKER_02:You think
SPEAKER_03:so? What
SPEAKER_02:would cause crows to
SPEAKER_03:do that? Okay, so let me explain why I think this. Okay. I didn't experience very much crow activity when I lived in Cincinnati area. Gotcha. And I don't have a reason why. I just never came across crows like that. Okay. I would see them, and that was about it. But since I've lived here in Washington, there's been two consecutive years of parent crows having baby crow near the hotel.
SPEAKER_01:Hmm.
SPEAKER_03:And baby crow gets pushed out of nest. Yeah. Mind you, baby crows are huge.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Baby crows look like adult crows. Like, they're so big. Because crows themselves are massive.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:The baby crows are like the size of an adult pigeon.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:So when you see it on the floor, chirping its little chirp. Chirp, chirp, chirp. You're like, dude, what are you crying about? You have fucking wings. You have wings. Go fly. And for the longest time, the first time that last year, the first one that I saw, I was like, oh, dang, this crow looks injured because it's not trying to fly away. And then there's two crows hanging out above.
SPEAKER_02:Ricky, two crows. I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. And this story and a coworker. because he was like, have you ever seen the Rick and Morty episode? Yes. It's topical. I think I did go back and isolate watch that, but I don't remember it. But anyway, so baby crow, baby crow needs adult crows to like oversee it.
SPEAKER_02:Right.
SPEAKER_03:And because I'm in the city, like it's going to die. So people put it in a box. These crows didn't like that. They came down and would fly at people's
SPEAKER_01:heads.
SPEAKER_03:Long-winded way of saying, if that car abducted a baby crow,
SPEAKER_02:I
SPEAKER_03:could see a murder of crows rallying behind this shit. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_02:I'm with you. I'm with you. Because crows are like pretty intelligent birds. Super
SPEAKER_03:smart.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, they're very smart. And just like wasps, apparently. What a weird word that is. Wasps. They remember your face. Waspi. Waspi. I'm
SPEAKER_01:sorry. Multiple
SPEAKER_02:wasp. Multiple wasp.
SPEAKER_01:Wasp. Wasp
SPEAKER_03:squared.
SPEAKER_02:Hey, tell your cat I said.
SPEAKER_03:Tell your cat I said wasp.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, shit. Anyway, but just like wasps, crows do remember your face. So it's like they hold grudges like they they will beef with you. If you fuck with them. So don't fuck with crows. And apparently, the saying goes, if you gotta ask, it's probably not a crow. Because you have crows and ravens. They are two different birds. Ravens are much bigger than
SPEAKER_03:crows.
SPEAKER_02:And they say, if you gotta ask, it's probably not a crow. Because you'll know. You'll know if it's a raven. You'll be like, oh, ooh.
SPEAKER_03:Not only are ravens way bigger than crows, they're also terrible at AFC North football. Go Bengals.
SPEAKER_02:Ooh, hold on. Wait, wait, wait. For the joke, just pissed off an entire community. A whole fucking community. I know. This is the last Thursday we had with no football. So, you know, hang on. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. That's something to celebrate. But you had, you had to just, that's really. He's seen it. It
SPEAKER_03:was the bangle inside of
SPEAKER_02:him. I get it. I get it. Cause you know, you know, a bangle and a Raven who's really going to win.
SPEAKER_03:Honestly, it could go either way.
SPEAKER_02:Come on.
SPEAKER_03:No, get out of here. Get out of here.
SPEAKER_02:This is how much I agree with you.
SPEAKER_03:Not me trying to win back 2% of the Raven fans that listen to this show.
SPEAKER_02:They're going to be like, oh, he's okay. He's all right. Sorry, I'm sorry. He's all right. Yeah, he's all right. So yeah, just don't piss off crows, I guess. Want another story? Yeah. Okay. So this one states, this was from three years ago. Sweet older lady in our church was a retired nurse. Never married, no kids. She had a heart attack, and while she was in the hospital, her niece and nephew came and took her stuff. She had a modest apartment, but she had some very nice crystal and silver and some lovely furniture. When she came home, she had no dishes and almost no furniture. Several years later, she passed away. Her most recent will, dated after her heart attack, left$1 each to her niece and nephew. Everything else went to the church. Her estate? was nine million dollars
SPEAKER_03:brother that's crazy that okay y'all get one dollar each i will pull the microphone close to everybody this is the level of pettiness that i strive for. Bro. That's
SPEAKER_02:crazy. Nine million dollars is how much her estate was worth. And she said, y'all gonna get one dollar each. Don't spend it all in one place.
UNKNOWN:Wow.
SPEAKER_02:Damn.
SPEAKER_03:Damn. I don't even hate that,
SPEAKER_02:bro. I don't either because it sounds like they were awful.
SPEAKER_03:I would one-up her and join said
SPEAKER_02:church.
UNKNOWN:Ooh.
SPEAKER_03:I'm going to get my eyes, Grandma. I'm going to get my eyes. I'm
SPEAKER_02:going to get my get back. I'm going to get my get back. Hold on.$9 million? Nah. Nah, we beefing now. We beefing now.
SPEAKER_03:Grandma. I'm going to be in that choir. I'm going to be there. They're going to pay me out of that$9 million.
SPEAKER_02:I'ma be saying it. I'ma be saying it. And you know a song? I'ma be saying it. I have a structured settlement and I need cash.
SPEAKER_01:That
SPEAKER_03:was
SPEAKER_01:stupid.
SPEAKER_02:That was stupid.
SPEAKER_03:It's perfect because nobody saw that.
SPEAKER_02:Nobody saw it. They're just like, what? Oh, I was like a
SPEAKER_03:murderer. Nobody saw
SPEAKER_01:it. No,
SPEAKER_02:it's a dumb ass. Why would he do that? But, but I will tell you this. If anybody listens to that, I guarantee you they finished that jingle. They said, Call J.J. Wentworth!
SPEAKER_01:877-CASH-NO!
SPEAKER_03:At least all the audience that have driven cars in the Ohio area for
SPEAKER_02:however
SPEAKER_03:long that commercial's been on the air.
SPEAKER_02:And it's still going strong, so they're doing something
SPEAKER_03:right. Oh,
SPEAKER_02:shit. Oh, my God. Oh, man. That's actually fucking wild, bro. Okay, so you want another one?
SPEAKER_03:Wait, you can top the$9 million church donation?
SPEAKER_02:Probably not, but we're going to try. We're going to
SPEAKER_03:try. All right, let's go.
SPEAKER_02:This one's...
SPEAKER_03:Swing at it.
SPEAKER_02:Swing away, Meryl. Shout out M. Night Shyamalan, by the way. One of the greatest directors ever.
SPEAKER_03:You could say he's the Babe Ruth of directing.
SPEAKER_02:What?
SPEAKER_03:What?
SPEAKER_01:What?
SPEAKER_03:He just keeps making movies and eventually one of them will be good.
SPEAKER_01:Well... Damn.
SPEAKER_02:Let's not take shots at M. Night Shyamalan. Next thing you know. Hey,
SPEAKER_03:I like some of his movies. No, I do too. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:He's missing. He's
SPEAKER_03:missing. Not twisting.
SPEAKER_02:They ain't twisting.
SPEAKER_03:Those twists are more like turns.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, basically. Like very soft turns. Not like hairpin, right? It's just gradual twists. Listen, you
SPEAKER_03:miss every shot you don't take. I guess. I guess.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, my God. Which is why I
SPEAKER_03:call him the Babe Ruth of directing.
SPEAKER_02:For the joke.
SPEAKER_03:Okay. All right, go, go.
SPEAKER_02:All right, this one says, when I was 16, this was three years ago, When I was 16, I woke up into one of those very vivid real-life dreams. Like a dream where you wake up in your room and don't realize you're still dreaming. I sat upright in bed and looked sideways to my door and saw a figure standing in my doorway. The figure said, Your dad will die when you're 22. Then I actually woke up. laying in bed, too nervous to turn around and look at the door. The next morning at breakfast, I told my family, including my dad, about the dream. Everyone was uneasy, and then my dad said, don't worry about it. Now that you've told me, there's no way it'll happen. Famous last words. Why? He died tragically and suddenly when I was 22. Wait.
SPEAKER_03:I thought they said three years ago they were 16.
SPEAKER_02:So this is when it was posted. It was three years ago. And they're just saying when I was 16. That was three years ago. So I don't know how old they were when they... oh okay
SPEAKER_03:i was assuming
SPEAKER_02:no
SPEAKER_03:three years ago a 16 year old posted no no no no okay
SPEAKER_02:this person was just saying in their story they
SPEAKER_03:were i'm glad i'm glad because like i was like in my mind this is a 19 year old talking time
SPEAKER_01:travel why would
SPEAKER_03:you post this before you're 22 right now i'm on a cliffhanger we need an update three years i can't math we need an
SPEAKER_02:update
SPEAKER_03:yeah I'm
SPEAKER_02:sorry. I'm
SPEAKER_03:not going to lie.
SPEAKER_02:That's crazy. That's crazy work. Yeah, that's crazy. That's crazy to actually have it happen. I'd be like, oh, no. Like, who the fuck came to me?
SPEAKER_03:I got one. I got a personal one.
SPEAKER_02:Okay.
SPEAKER_03:It's not that crazy, but I live in a over 100-year-old building. Ooh. And I'm convinced it's haunted. Okay. And... So I've always been a... I don't know if a believer in paranormal is accurate. Okay. Because I guess like hopeful, optimistic. I don't know. Because I never had like a personal account. Okay. But I'm like open. I had been open to the possibility of paranormal shit existing.
SPEAKER_01:Correct.
SPEAKER_03:Cause why not? Right. Like we don't know why any of this bullshit is anything. So like, why wouldn't there be right. Right. So we moved to this building and I've lived in old buildings before when I was in Cincinnati, but nothing quite as old as this building. Yep. And it also used to be like a senior living facility, not quite like a nursing home, but just like an apartment building for seniors.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:And so there was a full kitchen on the first floor that they would prepare all the meals for the house. And there is a dining hall on the third or fourth floor, I forget, where the people that lived here could go to eat their dinner.
SPEAKER_02:Right.
SPEAKER_03:And there's also offices and all kinds of other shit. But it's very likely... that people have passed away in this building of course because it was a senior living facility right um and with that information being understood where there's death death can linger of course or the afterlife right yeah excuse me so got two elevators in the building that we technically i think there's four but there's two elevators that we use um for like the main transportation for the building and oftentimes one of the elevators is always down And there's, you know, there's probably a medical reason or a medical and mechanical reason for the problems, like whether it's like a compromised part or whatever, a sensor that's gone bad after so many whatevers.
SPEAKER_01:Right.
SPEAKER_03:But the fact that it's always down, I've been here for three years and it is always down.
SPEAKER_01:Hmm.
SPEAKER_03:Like abnormal amounts of elevator downtime. Maybe it's regular, but I mean, like... you're having this much elevator problems buy a new elevator you know what i'm saying like it's time for a new one how is this such a problem right yeah yeah uh so like that makes me think that there there's some weird behavior going on and then furthermore there's two other things one is related to the elevator when you're going up the elevator it will uh like each floor like it like pings on the LCD, like four, one, two, three, so on. Yep. Um, and then like a light that's like pointing up or with an arrow up or a light with an arrow down will light up. Like when it stops on a floor, say you stops on three and it's going up, this little light will light up for arrow going up. And then there's a, like a bell, but it, it only happens when the doors open. Sometimes when the elevator's traveling, uh, That light, the arrow light and the bell will go off on every fucking floor. But the doors aren't opening. You're just traveling. So it's like a malfunction. And I'm like, when that happens, I like to think that it's just a fucking ghost just being like bling, bling, bling. With the fucking door, like with the little door thing. Because it just, like, why is it doing that? And I'm sure you can find a mechanical reason to explain it.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Why?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, no, I get it. I get it.
SPEAKER_03:The third thing, the third thing that kind of ties to the, I'm just saying that the building is weird at this point, but just like weird shit has happened to the building that I can't explain. And nobody would believe me. Probably. There's a spot in our garage area that we have to walk through to get to the dog garden to take my dog out. And it's right in front of the garage door. Not only does the garage door sometimes roguely open in the middle of the night when no one is around. And I'm talking, like, 1 or 2 a.m. Because I sometimes am a fucking late guy. Like, I'm a night owl. So I'm up until, like, 2 in the morning sometimes. And I'll go downstairs, take the dog out one last time, or, like, just go out to smoke at, like, 1 in the morning. And when I'm walking down there, like, the garage door just opens. And I'm like, the fuck is that? You know? What's this? have little garage door keypob things, but I don't think that there's somebody just pressing the garage door button randomly.
SPEAKER_02:That wouldn't make sense. Yeah, that wouldn't make
SPEAKER_03:sense. So something is happening. Some energy field is being done to fucking make it open. And right now, Huh. You know, animals are sensitive.
SPEAKER_02:to that kind of stuff. So the
SPEAKER_03:cat acts up sometimes in the apartment. And like, I think, I just think this place is haunted.
SPEAKER_02:Could be, could be. I mean, if it's old, if it's an old building. Yeah. Yeah. I wouldn't, I wouldn't doubt that there's some energy left there. And yeah, that's who knows
SPEAKER_03:when people, when people ask me like, what do I believe in? It's energy, bro.
SPEAKER_02:No energy. 110%, 110%. Yeah. So it's funny you bring that up because I have always said I feel like I'm followed by something. I don't know what. I don't know who. And I don't know why. But we can get into that whole entire thing some other time. But I will give you a story. When I was working, because a lot of the times that it happens, I'm sleeping and people say, oh, you were probably dreaming. That was probably what it was. Kind of like what this person just talked about, like a very lucid, vivid type of dream. So I share this story and I will always say, you believe what you want. You know what I mean? Like, I'm not here to change your mind. Or anything like that. I'm not here to convert you. To shit. Like you believe what you believe. And you stand on that. Now if you ever want to question something. Have at it. But I just share. My experiences. So this was at work. What I do now. And I was. At an apartment building. I was there to do a turn off. Turn the gas on. And. Whenever you do, you have to go check the appliances, water heater, furnace, stuff like that. I checked the meter, came inside, and the way the apartment was set up, it was like, you walk in, living room, kitchen, hallway, furnace in the closet here, bedroom, go back, and it dead ends, and then T's off, and there's second bedroom, water heater sink was outside of the bathroom which was kind of strange but i've seen it before but the sink was over no it was it was like i said it was an apartment building so i
SPEAKER_03:got you
SPEAKER_02:and then the sinks there and then the bathroom like toward the sink the bathroom's on the left so i went in checked the furnace went to the back checked the water heater to mark it I usually check the sink, make sure the water's on. Cause if it's not on, I don't have to light the water heater. So went to the sink, turned it on, made sure it was running, got water. Cool. Turned it off. I was coming back and came down the hallway, made the turn. I shit you not. Soon as I turned the light in the bathroom came on. I was like, and, and I was like this. I was like, Everything in me said, go outside.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:But there was that one little thing of curiosity. And I was like, no way. So I walked over there. And I poked my head in. And as soon as I poked my head into the bathroom, light turned off.
UNKNOWN:I'm good.
SPEAKER_02:And I was like, huh. And I looked over at the light switch. It was in the off position. I flip it up. No light. I was flipping this thing. I was like, no fucking way. I went through that whole apartment. Flipping switches. No electricity. I was like, I'm going
SPEAKER_03:to leave. I'm going
SPEAKER_02:to head out. See ya.
SPEAKER_03:That's insane.
SPEAKER_02:So again, you can believe whatever you want to believe. I share my experiences and you take it how you want. Some people have said maybe there was a short. Okay, so you're telling me that it timed up just right. Like that's my luck that it timed up just right for the light to turn on as I'm leaving and then shut off as soon as I stick my head in the bathroom.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, right?
SPEAKER_02:Buddy.
SPEAKER_03:Crazy coincidence, if so.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, no shit. Like, that'll never happen again. But, you know. But do I have more of those stories? Absolutely. Because, again, I feel like something is following me and I don't know what. I don't know who. That's
SPEAKER_03:really interesting.
SPEAKER_02:It is interesting. Now,
SPEAKER_03:I have questions.
SPEAKER_02:Yes.
SPEAKER_03:in the because there's obviously multiple accounts you just said yep has any of these moments made you feel like like a shift on like like good or bad energy or neutral energy very neutral okay because i was going to say like a light a light turning on isn't inherently
SPEAKER_02:bad or good right Right, right, right.
SPEAKER_03:Right. But, like, anything that's, like, out of the abnormal is inherently scary.
SPEAKER_02:Because you don't see, especially, like, lights like that that are running off of, you know, just a light switch, you don't see them turning on and off by themselves all the time. Like, it just
SPEAKER_01:doesn't. Or
SPEAKER_02:ever. Or ever. But it's just, that's the crazy part. Right. I'll share one more just to... Since we're sharing stories that are crazy and strange that you won't believe are true. So I want to say it was maybe after the second experience that I had with said entity that I feel is following me. I had a friend... We used to do the YouTube channel together years ago. I kind of told them what was going on. I explained the whole situation and what was going on in the house that we were living in at the time. I was like, I'm the only one there from literally the time I get home from work until the time I leave, really. I'm the only person there. So I know it's not somebody else, right? Like, you know what I mean? Like, I know it's not somebody else. So this one's going to blow your fucking mind. So I'm explaining things to him, how it went down, all that kind of shit. And he started getting on the topic of like, do you want to do like some EVP sessions? Do you want to do like try to get some, you know, proof, so to speak? And I was like, you know, I haven't done that in a while. I kind of want to. Like, you really want to do it? He was like, yeah, let's do it. And we kind of like talked about where we were going to start. And I was like, I don't know if I have batteries. And I promise you. Now, this was 1030 at night, something like that, maybe 11. Nobody was outside or anything like that. And where we were sitting, it was in the living room. He was sitting over on this side. I was sitting over on this side. And the kitchen's over here. All of a sudden, he heard it too, by the way. All of a sudden, we just hear this, hey. And I'm like, we're the only two in here. And I was like,
SPEAKER_03:what do you mean,
SPEAKER_02:hey? I was like, what? So we went to the kitchen, looked out back. We were like, nobody's out there. And he was like, bro, now would be the time to do EVPs, right? Like, let's do this. I was like, okay, I got it. I got you. I got you. So we started, you know, kind of talking to whatever it was. We were like, hey, we're going to get something real quick. If you want to talk, you want to speak your mind, now's the time to do it. And if you're willing to, give us a sign. Now, we're saying this as we're going up to get the equipment. And in my room, I do. But unfortunately, the stuff we did is no longer on it because it was so old that it just deleted for whatever reason.
SPEAKER_03:Or
SPEAKER_02:something
SPEAKER_03:deleted
SPEAKER_02:it. Or something deleted it. No shit. No shit. Never thought of it that way. But... We go into my room to get the digital recorder. And I was like, I distinctly remember. I was like, if you want to say something, now's the time to do it. While I'm grabbing it out of the drawer, and I promise you, I shit you not, Grizz, the computer I had in my room, it was off at the time, suddenly started playing music. I said, no fucking way. That's crazy. Bro, we looked at each other and he was like, you got batteries? I was like, yes. I was like, hang on. Hold on,
SPEAKER_03:please. Right.
SPEAKER_02:He's like, what are you waiting for? So it was interesting because it only played for like 10 seconds. And then it just, I don't remember. I honestly don't, but it just,
SPEAKER_03:I feel like it might've had like a
SPEAKER_02:meaning. Yeah. Something contextual. Yes. Yes. But I don't remember. I was just, I was more
SPEAKER_03:right. Right.
SPEAKER_02:I was more shocked that we got that. I was like, yo man. And we didn't have anything recording it. Of course not. Right. I was like fucking bullshit. So yeah. So, of course, I get the batteries in. We start moseying around. He's like, where do you want to start? I was like, we can start in the basement. Start in the basement, work our way up. He was like, okay, fine. So we did that. Didn't catch anything in the basement. Didn't catch anything on the first floor. So I told them, I was like, this is probably where we should start. Really, where we should have started. Because I told them every night at 10 p.m., around 10. Because I got off of work at 9.30, and I was only 20 minutes away. So I'd get home by like 10. I'm sitting in the living room, eating my dinner, watching TV. And every night at 10 o'clock, right above the living room, where the farthest bedroom, it would sound like somebody stood up out of a chair, out of the bed, whatever it was, And it would walk down the hallway and stop at the stairs every night. And I was like, I guess we're just living with this. You know what I mean? Like, what am I going to do? I mean, I never felt any malice, any negative energy. It was just happening. So I was like, all right, fuck it. So I told them.
SPEAKER_03:Did that always happen? You felt like it sounded like someone would stand up and just walk to the stairs and that was it?
SPEAKER_02:That was it. It would stop. It would stop at the stairs.
SPEAKER_03:I forget what it's called. But there is a term for that. Like where a soul
SPEAKER_02:is trapped in
SPEAKER_03:a replay loop.
SPEAKER_02:So you have a residual haunting, which is basically on a loop. Where they're stuck in time. Yeah, where it's stuck in time. And then you have a smart haunting that interacts with you. That is like, you know, it's intelligent. Well, I think it's an intelligent haunting is what they call it. So I'm not sure. I still don't know to this day. Because I told them, I was like, we should go to where it starts. Let's go to where it starts every single night. And see what we get. So we asked questions. Whatever. Now the crazy part was. As we were upstairs. We did chase it around. It did move. It went into a bathroom. We went in there. And then we heard it in another bathroom. And we were like. Yo what the fuck. It was wild. It was crazy. So when I listened back to the tape. And I wish it didn't delete. But when we listen back, when we went into the bedroom at the end, I specifically remember asking the question, it was like, I think I asked, who are you? Why are you here? Are you stuck here? Are you mad? And I think right after I asked that, all you heard was a low, like it was, it was a growl. And I was like, that's not good. When I heard that, I was like, yeah, could have been, could have been a grunt, but it sounded almost like a low growl. And I was like, well, I know that's not good. I was like, I, you know, I was like, I've, I've, I love ghost hunters, all that kind of stuff. But I was like, if there's anything they taught me, that's not good. You know, I was like, so,
SPEAKER_03:so interesting. Like, why would, why would like a benevolence or would it be benevolent?
SPEAKER_02:Probably
SPEAKER_03:benevolent. Yeah. Benevolent, um, spirit be seeming, unless it's a trap trying to draw someone in by having this loop that it plays could be, and then get it, getting someone to, uh, inquire yep like hey what are you doing and then that's when it sinks its teeth
SPEAKER_02:could be could very well be
SPEAKER_03:so let me ask you yeah you you obviously don't live in that house anymore
SPEAKER_02:no
SPEAKER_03:where was that house at
SPEAKER_02:so funny you ask it was in kentucky now mind you where the house was built It was built brand new. Like, there was never... Like, it's not an old house, right?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:But it was built on a plantation.
SPEAKER_01:Uh-oh.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. So...
SPEAKER_01:Uh-oh.
SPEAKER_02:Take that how you will. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Well... Yeah. Yeah. So that's a thing. Yeah, that's a thing. Now...
SPEAKER_02:Good old Commonwealth.
SPEAKER_03:Is that house still there?
SPEAKER_02:Yes.
SPEAKER_03:Obviously, you don't know who lives there.
SPEAKER_02:No, I don't know who lives there now. But again, again, listen to me, listen to me. Again, I don't think it was the house. I don't think it was what it was. I think... Because when... Fuck. We went to Paducah, and my mom is obviously big into ancestry. So whenever she goes where our family is, she's always looking at dead people. She's got to chase them. We got to go to the cemetery. You know what I'm saying? Got to go to the cemetery. Got to find all these missing pieces. And it was interesting because... that one time that one year when we went i had a feeling that like we were being watched in the cemetery but i never brought it up like it felt like something was watching us and shortly after that trip is when everything started happening
SPEAKER_03:okay so like the house story you just told
SPEAKER_02:yep
SPEAKER_03:happened after
SPEAKER_02:the Paducah trip. And that was like a few months
SPEAKER_03:afterward. I have so many questions. Ask them. Ask away. I want to go to that house and ask those people that live there now If they experience anything. Do you experience anything?
SPEAKER_02:Any weird shit?
SPEAKER_03:Don't be too descriptive. Like stairs walking or whatever. Because then they might be like, you know what? There was this one time. But if you were like, hey, this is going to be so fucking weird. But we grew up in this house. I distinctly remember every night at 10 p.m. or a.m., whichever side of the clock, I'm assuming.
SPEAKER_02:P.m., p.m.,
SPEAKER_03:yeah. a weird event would occur. And I just want to know if like that happens to you. Yeah. And if you think that me asking this is weird, you don't have to answer. I will take your non-answer as I'm probably being weird and
SPEAKER_02:I'll just walk away. I'll leave you alone.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:I'm leaving. Goodbye. I need
SPEAKER_03:to know more about this
SPEAKER_02:house. So again, I'm almost willing to just like give you all of it. Cause I now, now I have you hooked, right? Like now
SPEAKER_03:I'm in there.
SPEAKER_02:He's like, I'm invested. I'm invested. Like, give me more, give me more. Like, so I can give you the crash course, like readers digest. Cause I think we're coming. We're probably over time right now.
SPEAKER_03:So what's it, what's those magazines called at the checkout line of the grocery store?
SPEAKER_02:Oh, fuck. Fuck. Like the readers digest.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I guess. Yeah, that's probably. Or
SPEAKER_02:the tabloids. The tabloids. Yeah, give me the
SPEAKER_03:tabloids story version. Okay.
SPEAKER_02:So the first time I had an experience. Again, believe what you want to. First time I had an experience, I was sleeping. Happened at like 9 o'clock in the morning. It was right before my alarm went off. And Yeti. He was over. And he was sleeping in the room where all the shit was starting. And he was sleeping. And I was sleeping. And I was sleeping with my back toward the door. And I heard the door open. And when I rolled over, it was cracked. Like, about that much. And all I seen was this black figure. I mean, like, pitch black. Now, it's early. And I'm like, I'm thinking it's Yeti. And he's just, like, being weird. Because he... used to do that all the time. Just like, I'm looking at you. And I'm like, oh, man. So I thought it was him. So I roll back over and I go back to sleep. Try to, at least. And I get the feeling that someone or something is still staring at me. And I was like, huh. So I rolled over and it's still there. Door's cracked. Black mass. I was like, the fuck? So I'm staring and I'm like trying to adjust my eyes because I'm still like half asleep and I'm trying to see who it is. And from that moment, like when I was trying to see what it was, my whole body basically, and this is where people are like, you're probably dreaming. It's probably night terrors, whatever. Because from head to toe, I froze. Like, I was paralyzed. Like, sleep paralysis? Yes. Yeah, people call that a thing, too. Yeah. And I felt it was pins and needles from, like, head to toe. And I was like, what the fuck? And I was, like, trying to move, right? Like, I didn't understand. I was like, what the fuck? Come on. Come on. Come on. And, like, it was really hard. And that lasted for a few seconds. and this is how hard i was trying to move i almost fell out of bed because i rolled over and i was like holy shit and i looked at the door it was closed and i was like odd crazy work yeah i was like what i was i was i was flabbergasted i was flabbergasted and i was like what the fuck and i shit you not my alarm goes off like right after all that happened and i was like What just happened? So I explained that to people. They're like, it's probably sleep paralysis, whatever. So the second time it happened, same thing. I was sleeping, but it happened earlier. Happened at like two o'clock in the morning. And I was sleeping. I was all like this, just out cold. And I just got the feeling that somebody was watching me. And I said, you got it. You got it. But like, literally, I'm just thinking as I'm waking up, I'm like, no way. I was like, no way it's happening. Like, it was like a month after the first.
UNKNOWN:Wow.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. So I was like, no way. Now, this is how I know it was a black mass because I have a stereo that's literally right on top of this guy right here. And it's got a red light. on it. And I could usually see the red light from when I was laying down. I could see it. So I opened my eyes because I was like, what the fuck is staring at me? Two o'clock in the morning. Not cool. And right next to my bed, standing right there. Black mass. Same black mass. And I can't see the red light. So I was like, that's solid. That's a solid mass. So I was like, I did the only thing I would... I knew what to do. Blanket over the head, right? Like, you're safe. You're
SPEAKER_03:safe. You know what I'm
SPEAKER_02:saying? I was like, I'm safe.
SPEAKER_03:It's like S-tier spooky armor.
SPEAKER_02:Protection. Protection. Exactly. That's plot armor is what that is. So I throw the blanket over my head, right? I said, uh-uh. And at that moment, from head to toe, once again, almost like, you know, pins and needles again, like how you get when your arm goes to sleep. And I was like, fuck, I can't move. And then it lasted shorter than it did the first time. And it went away. And I did one of these. I was like, okay, it's gone. You know, so I was like, what the fuck? At that point, I'm like, no way that's a dream. No way. That's sleep paralysis. First
SPEAKER_03:time you got to throw the blanket on the
SPEAKER_02:black mass. No, because I think that would be scarier. Especially if it just stays. If it stays.
SPEAKER_03:I'm not ready for the truth. I'm good.
SPEAKER_02:I'm good. I'm good. I will pass.
SPEAKER_03:Now it's not a black mass. You see a real cello.
SPEAKER_02:No! Yeah, and I lose my protection. You know what I mean? Like, I don't have my blanket.
SPEAKER_01:I gave up my shield. Right.
SPEAKER_02:I gave
SPEAKER_01:up my plot armor. Who's got
SPEAKER_03:without his shield? Right.
SPEAKER_02:So that was the second time. The third time, I wasn't even in the house. I went to Gatlinburg with a girlfriend of mine at the time. And we were sleeping. Again, it was about 2 o'clock, 2.30 in the morning. Now, at this point, I'm not bothered by it. I'm more so curious. But I shit you not, it was like a horror movie. I was,
SPEAKER_03:buddy,
SPEAKER_02:just wait, just wait. So, I'm like, I'm sleeping, and I get the same feeling. Something's watching me. And I was like, I'm in Gatlinburg. No way. Right? No way. No way you're here. Can't be. Can't be. Can't be. Cap. All cap.
SPEAKER_03:All cap.
SPEAKER_02:So I wake up, and Chris, again, I'm not bothered at this point. I woke up, opened my eyes, and I sat up a bit, just like this. And it was almost like I knew exactly where to look. And I just looked right in the mirror that was... down the hallway to the bathroom. Like it was on this wall and you could see the bathroom door. It was standing in the mirror.
SPEAKER_03:See, I don't like that. Yeah. Mirrors are like little portal dimension.
SPEAKER_02:Hello. Hello.
SPEAKER_03:Don't like
SPEAKER_02:them. Yeah. So I'm looking and I'm just looking at it and I'm thinking, and I wanted to say like, what are you? Right. Right. Like, those words wanted to leave my mouth. But as soon as I wanted to say that, whole body went numb.
SPEAKER_03:Bro, it's just playing with you.
SPEAKER_02:Right? So I was like, and I'm just staring at it. And it lasted for a little bit. And I looked over to see if my girlfriend was awake. She was not. I went back to the mirror. It was gone.
SPEAKER_01:Hmm.
SPEAKER_03:That's wild, dude. Right. Now, how long ago was the first interaction?
SPEAKER_02:Oh, it's been years. It's been a long, long time. If you had to put a number
SPEAKER_03:with your best guess.
SPEAKER_02:How old was I? How old am I now? 38? So probably 16 years ago.
SPEAKER_03:Okay. 16 years ago to present day, how many weird interactions have you had that were similar?
SPEAKER_02:A lot.
SPEAKER_03:Like, more than 10 a lot?
SPEAKER_02:Probably, yeah. So, hang on, wait. So, like, those kind of interactions... I think there's only four. I got one more to share. And that
SPEAKER_03:was here. Interesting that there's only four.
SPEAKER_02:That was here.
SPEAKER_03:And at what time span?
SPEAKER_02:So the first time was like 9 o'clock in the morning. I mean
SPEAKER_03:like intervals. So you said between the first and the second
SPEAKER_02:was like a month. And then the third one between the second and third was probably I'm trying to think. I'd say probably six months, maybe seven.
SPEAKER_03:Okay. And then between the third
SPEAKER_02:and the fourth? Next one. A couple of years.
SPEAKER_03:Very interesting.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Any other weird things? In
SPEAKER_02:between? Yeah. Yeah. That
SPEAKER_03:weren't this specific black mass?
SPEAKER_02:Yes. The story I just shared with you about the apartment that was in between all that. Oh, yeah. The story with my friend that was in between all that. And I'm awake, okay? I was awake during these times. That's why I was like, no way. No fucking way. At that point, I'm not convinced.
SPEAKER_03:It's interesting that And I want to hear the last time that you interact with this mask.
SPEAKER_02:Yep.
SPEAKER_03:But I'm intrigued on why. So how long ago would you say number four was between then and present? Like more than 10 years? No.
SPEAKER_02:Maybe five, six years ago. It was like literally the first year we moved in here. In this house.
SPEAKER_03:Okay. Yeah. And it was like rinse and repeat. It was like two in the morning. Woke you up or
SPEAKER_02:you want it? You want it? Yeah. You want
SPEAKER_03:it?
SPEAKER_02:So the fourth interaction, very different, very different. And I thought it was weird. So this happened at about four 30, four 30. No, Yeah, somewhere around there. Maybe like 440. Closer. Closer to when my alarm was going to go off. So I'm sleeping. Always happens when I'm sleeping. And I get that same feeling. Somebody's watching me. And I was like, bruh. I was upset. I was kind of mad. Like, not going to lie. Because I was like, no way. And I looked at my phone. I seen what time it was. And it was like, I'm pretty sure it was 440 because it was a few minutes before my alarm went off. And I was like, bruh. So it wasn't at my door. It was at the foot of my bed. And for the first time ever, it's moving. And it's running like back and forth at the foot of my bed, like very rapid. And for the first time ever, I was able to speak to it.
SPEAKER_03:Interesting.
SPEAKER_02:Because I was like, I didn't ask questions. I mean, I did, but I didn't.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Because I was like, what are you doing? That's all I could think of. I was like, I'm trying to sleep. Rolled back over. Still felt like it was staring at me. I was like, bro, come on. I got, like, I'm mad, right? Like, I'm pissed because I want to go to sleep, right? And I was like, just stop. Try to go back. Again, still there. So I was like, hey, because it hit me. And I was like, I'm talking to it. I've never gotten this far. I was like, what? What? Way? Why? Why? And suddenly, again, almost like I knew where to look. Again, it's moving like fucking fast as fuck, boy. It looked like Flash at the foot of my bed. And I was like, something else is in the room. I felt two. Ah. And I was like, There's something else here. And again, like I knew where to look, I just so happened to look literally right here on this wall that I'm sitting next to. It's hard to explain, and I've never seen anything like it before, but it stood from the floor to the ceiling. I could see it. It wasn't a black mass. It was like a light. kind of grayish but it was dark so you know what i mean similar to the color of your vecna behind you
SPEAKER_03:interesting
SPEAKER_02:it was very tall very thin like i mean real thin arms that reached all the way to the ground and some slenderman shit kind of but it had hair if you can imagine the ring Like the girl with the long hair. And it went all the way to the floor. Now that one, I was like, you're a big motherfucker. That was my first thought. I was like, you're huge. And I was literally, for some reason, I was just like, I wanted to ask, what the fuck are you? And when I tried, I was frozen again.
SPEAKER_03:So whatever the other one was, you could talk to it.
SPEAKER_02:I could talk to it. But whatever that one
SPEAKER_03:appeared, I
SPEAKER_02:was like, what? Now, Chris, this is where it got strange. I got I got mad again because, mind you, I was trying to sleep. Right.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And now I'm pissed because I'm like, I was just able to talk to this thing. Why can't I talk to you? So I got, I felt very angry. And again, I had the pins and needles, but somehow, some way, I was kind of like shaking it off. And I was like, I was kind of growling in a way. And then I was just yelling at this thing. And then I heard, I heard it. Now, I don't know if it actually happened or not. But I heard it. I heard my tone change. My voice. Because in my head, I was like, that's not me.
SPEAKER_03:Interesting. Do you think it was channeling through you?
SPEAKER_02:Maybe. I don't know if it was the new guy or the old guy. Because why else would he or it change? Whatever it is. Just be going nuts. Could it have been warning me about something?
SPEAKER_03:I'm trying to wake you up before he got there.
SPEAKER_02:Right.
SPEAKER_03:But why? Why all of a sudden the appearance?
SPEAKER_02:I don't know.
SPEAKER_03:Interesting.
SPEAKER_02:Couldn't tell you. Could not tell you. But that was the last. So after all that, again, I was thinking I was like, that's not me. That's not my voice. And it went on for 30 seconds. I didn't know I had that kind of lung capacity. And everything went black. And then my alarm went off. And I just woke up like business as usual. Like I was unbothered.
SPEAKER_03:And there was no one else in the house?
SPEAKER_02:So there were two other people in the house upstairs. They
SPEAKER_03:didn't hear you?
SPEAKER_02:They never said anything.
SPEAKER_03:I'm not going to lie. If I heard screaming coming from somewhere in the house. Hello. Hello.
SPEAKER_02:I wouldn't want to. Yeah. That early. I wouldn't want to. Yeah. That early in the morning. That's a game. Yeah. No shit. So that was the last interaction that I had.
SPEAKER_03:That's crazy.
SPEAKER_02:That was like that. Yeah. So have I had
SPEAKER_03:other experiences since then? Just not like that.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Now, here we go. You ready? One just happened. Two days ago. Oh,
SPEAKER_03:shit.
SPEAKER_02:Breaking news. Update. Update. I was sitting here playing Gran Turismo and I shit you not, it sounded like little feet running in the hallway. I thought it was my nephew. That's what it sounded like. I heard it just like and it came to my door. It made me stop And I look. Huh. Nobody came in. I was like. That's that little dancer. Bro, I was like. Little
SPEAKER_03:dancer boy.
SPEAKER_02:I was like, okay. So I went back to playing and driving. I heard it again. Nobody came in. I was like, okay. I'm just going to ignore this.
UNKNOWN:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Let me turn the radio up.
SPEAKER_02:No problems if I can't hear it. I just kept driving and I said, nope, I'm not investigating. I'm just going to keep moving. That's all I'm doing.
SPEAKER_03:That's crazy work,
SPEAKER_02:dude. It's little things like that that I experience throughout the day and other shit like that. I've had several accounts that
SPEAKER_03:are like that crazy opinion
SPEAKER_02:okay
SPEAKER_03:what if it's not one thing following you oh here we go what if you're sensitive to your like paranormal surroundings and there's like wherever you're at if there's something there, like it may not even be trying to reach out to you specifically, but you just sense its existence. Maybe. That's crazy.
SPEAKER_02:I mean, so, and, and Yeti can attest to this. We did have an experience when we were younger, like very young, like our whole family did. Um, and no, like it was, it was fucking crazy, but
SPEAKER_03:no,
SPEAKER_02:like my mom, used to say when like I was like maybe four five years old she said that I would stand at the bottom of the stairs and I would just be bawling like crying my eyes out I would be afraid to go upstairs and I would constantly say Chucky standing at the top of the stairs and she wouldn't see anything but I did
SPEAKER_03:hmm Now, do you remember these memories? I don't. Or have you been regurgitated them? I don't. So people have told you, okay, so you don't remember seeing a Chucky.
SPEAKER_02:I don't. You just know that, yeah. I'm willing to bet. Do you think
SPEAKER_03:it's in there, though? I'm willing to bet. Do you think you've trauma-blocked it?
SPEAKER_02:I'm willing to bet. If I did some kind of therapy-type deal where they unlock parts of your consciousness, it's probably up there. I can almost guarantee you.
SPEAKER_03:Would you do it?
SPEAKER_02:How did I know you were going to ask
SPEAKER_03:that? Bro, also, side note, best episode ever. This has been the greatest
SPEAKER_02:interview ever. You're welcome. Would I? Would I do it? Probably. I probably would. Just to know. what's up there. Cause like you said, my brain, especially at the, that young of an age, the human body does so many things to protect itself. And if that was traumatizing to me as a child, you know what I mean? So I wouldn't, I wouldn't doubt. Now here's going to be the question. If I do that and unlock that, what floodgates then open up?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, like, do you fucking get superpowers? Like, is this how we turn the tide? Is this a story we've been waiting
SPEAKER_02:for? Is this an origin story? What's happening right now? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know if, like you said, is it possible that it's not just, like you said, one thing following me. It's just like a multitude of shit. You could be
SPEAKER_03:Constantine for all we know. I
SPEAKER_02:don't know if I want that job.
SPEAKER_03:That's
SPEAKER_02:fair. I'm not saying it's a good thing. I don't know. I don't know if I want that. But again, let me say this. We're
SPEAKER_03:the Supernatural Bros, dude. You need a car. You
SPEAKER_02:have a rabbit. I do. I do. It'd be like supernatural. Yeah, supernatural. Yeah. Jesus Christ. Chris.
SPEAKER_03:I'm saying, bro.
SPEAKER_02:No, I'm with you. It's just, I don't know. I don't know. Again, I don't know what that would look like. I don't know. Now I feel
SPEAKER_03:like we need to go to the Oregon Ghost Conference that I went to a couple years ago. I
SPEAKER_02:love that kind of
SPEAKER_03:stuff. We should, because I... That would actually be fun. I don't even need to go as a vendor. Like we could just go. Yeah. Cause I remember there being like, you know, tarot card reader type people. I went on a couple of ghost tours, you know, throughout the little city town or whatever. And, uh, yeah, there's like, there's people there that claim to be like mediums and shit like that. Like,
SPEAKER_01:yeah.
UNKNOWN:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:I don't know. I don't know.
SPEAKER_02:Because where did we go? Waverly Hills. We went there one year. And that was interesting, seeing a lot of shit there, like shadow people. I just
SPEAKER_03:got the craziest idea. Oh, boy.
SPEAKER_02:You know, if you're going to say what I think you're
SPEAKER_03:going to say. I don't know.
SPEAKER_02:Say it.
SPEAKER_03:Say
SPEAKER_02:it.
SPEAKER_03:We
SPEAKER_02:should go to Waverly Hills.
SPEAKER_03:No, no. What if we went to famous hot spots?
SPEAKER_02:I'm all for it. Say less.
SPEAKER_03:Just places where people have definitely famously. Just places that we know. Like Gettysburg. Gettysburg is 100% haunted.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. I agree.
SPEAKER_03:Or Salem Witch Trials.
SPEAKER_02:Yep. Go up to Salem.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Go somewhere where some shit's been happening.
SPEAKER_02:Absolutely.
SPEAKER_03:And then we can test the theory of are you sensitive to the supernatural or is it a specific thing? I don't know.
SPEAKER_02:I don't know. That would be interesting. Also, are
SPEAKER_03:you even interested in following this journey?
SPEAKER_02:I'm pushing you into something. No. So I've always been... into that kind of stuff like i said i loved ghost hunters ghost adventures wasn't my cup of tea um because zach baggins is always like oh what was that oh god i i bet it was paranormal like ghost hunters sorry again pissed off a whole community um ghost hunters yeah ghost hunters i enjoyed because they looked to debunk things like make sense of it because if you can Cool. You know what I mean? Like, you don't have to jump to, okay, I can explain this away. Not a problem. But if I can't, all right, now we got to look further into it. Because when we went to Waverly. That's what I like. Yes. That's what I like. That's why I appreciated Ghost Hunters so much.
SPEAKER_03:So now let me ask this because I am a bit of a paranormal and supernatural novice. What is the significance to Waverly?
SPEAKER_02:So Waverly was a sanatorium many, many moons ago where they took tuberculosis patients to try to cure them. So it was a
SPEAKER_03:site where a lot of people have died.
SPEAKER_02:A lot of people died.
SPEAKER_03:Yes.
SPEAKER_02:And they're pretty sure they're still there. No one left. No one left. Like a roach motel. I'm just kidding. I'm joking. I'm joking. Okay. But no, like they do want to turn it into a hotel eventually. And I'm like, I want to do the overnight before that happens.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, can you do an overnight? Yes, you can. Yes, you can. Like for freezies?
SPEAKER_02:No, it's pay. You got to
SPEAKER_03:pay. Okay. Yeah, you got to pay. Now, is it guided or is it self-guided?
SPEAKER_02:So they have two. They have two. They have one that is guided. And I think that one's only six hours. But if you do the full night, that's eight hours full overnight. They will give you a quick tour and then it's you have fun.
SPEAKER_03:Now, would you do that? Yes. By yourself? Yeah. Or would you rather it be guided? Or would you do both?
SPEAKER_02:So the problem with that is it's expensive. It's$1,000 because I think the minimum you can take is 10 people. which divide that up by 10, it's$100 a person. Not too bad. But if you do go by yourself, it is. But if you do go by yourself, you have to cover the fee. So I'm paying$1,000 out of pocket just to go by myself. That's for the overnight. That's for the overnight. The unguided. It is. I believe. I have to look into it. Their prices could have raised. I don't
SPEAKER_03:know. I would want to do the unguided by myself first. Yep. Well, not by myself, but with you and a couple other people. Like with a crew. By ourselves. Do that one night and then come back the next night or a couple nights from then. Probably the next night for logistics purposes. And then do the guided thing. Because I feel like if you start with the guided and then you do it, there could be some preconceived ideas
SPEAKER_01:implanted.
UNKNOWN:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:But if I go in raw and I have no preconceived information from some guy that's being paid to tell me things, I think I'd have a more honest and authentic experience.
SPEAKER_02:So, I will say...
SPEAKER_03:Because our brains are powerful.
SPEAKER_02:I know, but I will say we did the two-hour guided tour. And... Off jump from the rip before the tour even got started. We were standing in a stairwell. Mind you, middle of July, hottest fucking day of the summer. And no breeze, nothing. We're standing in this stairwell waiting to go to the next area or whatever. And all of a sudden, I'm like, y'all, I'm cold. And they're like, what do you mean? I was like, like the air around me is cold. Like, it's colder than anywhere else. Man. Now, I was with my mom, my sister, and my girlfriend of the time. And my mom was like, no way. I was like, I shit you not. And she felt it. And she was like, it's cold. I was like, yeah. And it's everywhere. Like, it was all around me. I was like, I am cold. In the middle of July. I was like, I'm cold. I wasn't sick.
SPEAKER_03:That's insane.
SPEAKER_02:Right? And I felt that the entire time we were there. I felt cold the whole trip.
SPEAKER_03:Now, do you think the cold was following you specifically?
SPEAKER_02:Probably. Because they do say... No
SPEAKER_03:one else knew it was cold until they got in your zone.
SPEAKER_02:Right. Because they do say if you experience spikes in temperature like that, a spirit could be present. All kinds of stuff because it's trying to manifest. So it's using the energy around itself to try to manifest, show itself, right, or do something. So it'll use, like, the energy in the air. So if it's hot, obviously it's going to be cold because it's trying to draw that energy from the heat and, you know, maybe your body. But all around me, I was like, bro, what?
SPEAKER_03:What?
UNKNOWN:What?
SPEAKER_03:That's insane. That's nuts. Dude, this is all making me think, what if Monsters, Inc. is low-key real?
SPEAKER_02:I wouldn't doubt it. Hear
SPEAKER_03:me out. Hear me out. So, if entities need to use the energy around them to manifest their, let's say, powers or their presence, and the... main driver would be our fear in most cases okay because that's why everything everything that happens with the supernatural or paranormal leans on the side of like creepy right right um like none of none of those things that's ever happened has been like oh this is a joy i love this you know um so like what if like that fear factor is there like fuel And then the harnessing their energy surroundings is like them trying to manipulate us to create the fear so then they have the power to continue fearing us.
SPEAKER_02:So from my many years of studying and such, again, I'm not an expert by any means. I just dabble in it. Certain entities, depending on what they are, why they're there, if they are malevolent, yes, they will want to do things just to frighten you, to kind of make you lose. Right, yes. And they kind of want to, again, they want to draw feed off of that energy because it does, you know, energy's real, man. And and certain things need. Yeah, it is. It is. Energy is real and it cannot be destroyed, just transferred, which is for me why I believe in what I believe in. So, you know. It is what it is.
SPEAKER_03:I know it wasn't supposed to be, but that shit was philosophical.
SPEAKER_02:Sorry. That's just for me. Again, you believe whatever you want to believe. That's not me trying to convert you to anything. We have our own experiences. We believe. Again, whatever you believe in, stand on it. Stand on. Now, if something seems off and you're like, and it does make you kind of side-eye some things a little bit, yeah, look into it. Do your research. Be informed, as they say. So you're not just blindly following somebody or something. But if everything checks out, stand on that shit. Stand on it. if not
SPEAKER_03:honestly a message that the world needs
SPEAKER_02:again like you said didn't mean to turn it into that but
SPEAKER_03:yeah
SPEAKER_02:every moment for sure yeah every
SPEAKER_03:moment like each individual on this planet like me you or the next person we're all living with our own perception yep And, like, for better or for worse, nobody can honestly take that away from us. Nope. You know? And that's just the cards. It is. Whatever I perceive, like, that's my truth. Yeah, that's you. Whatever you perceive, that's your truth. Exactly. And it's all perception. It is.
SPEAKER_02:And sometimes they run
SPEAKER_03:parallel. Right, right, right. Yeah. I don't know. It's... it's something I've come to realize lately is it's all, it's all just like in, in layman's terms, it's perspective.
SPEAKER_02:Yep.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:I'm with you. I'm with you. So yeah, that's, uh, I hope you got what you needed for your interview, Lois. Hang on. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Well done. For the joke. I gave you more than enough. I gave you more than enough. I'm not an idiot, I know. Solid film. Yeah, it is. It is fucking amazing. But anyway, there you go. I know we are way over time, but stories that are so crazy and strange that you don't believe they're true. That they don't sound true, right? Um... Yeah, if you see something strange, it's always when you're unprepared. You don't have any recording device, nothing to take pictures, video, audio. You're just viewing your eyeballs.
SPEAKER_03:Dude, imagine living in an... Because humans have been around for a long time.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Like thousands of years at this point.
SPEAKER_02:Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_03:And I don't know that we really know what that means.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:You know what I mean? Like, that's a long time. And there's likely a time before technology, like recording devices and shit.
SPEAKER_01:Yep.
SPEAKER_03:And some people may argue that there's always been some sort of recording device. Technology's always been around, right? But I... I would love to know what it was like to live in a period where all you had was living in the moment. Like, truly living in the moment. No recording device. No phone. No camera. Just
SPEAKER_02:you and your
SPEAKER_03:eyeballs. On one hand, you could speak to the scary. Oh, yeah. Like, my security. Yeah. Well... my argument to that is now you have to be more aware for yourself. Yep. Instead of, um, chalking it up for other people to be aware for you. Um, but whether or not people believe these stories that were, we were talking about today or not, there was a time in history where that's all people had was their story.
SPEAKER_02:Yep. And your word meant something. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:And it did. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. That's, that's, I mean, again, think about it. Like you just mentioned Salem, which trials, right? They see, they see a girl or woman, should I say? And they're like, uh, she's like, Oh, uh, you have a cough. Here's some honey that will handle that. Wow. Which, you know? So it's like, it's like, and that's word of mouth. Like, If you were to do that today and somebody caught that on film, oh, here's some honey. Oh, well, we can now deconstruct this video. It's honey. Let's look up what honey does. Oh, guess what? It soothes your throat. Oh, check it out. It's a natural cough suppressant. Interesting. They're just, you know, natural remedies is what it is. It's not witchcraft.
SPEAKER_03:And then those crazy people that were scared figured out that those witches are actually just people. Yeah, just people. And then was like, hey, you want to help take care of me? Right. Hey, yo, take me to dinner. Hey, yo, hey, yo.
SPEAKER_02:So, I don't know. People have... We've done strange things as a species. I don't know if being able to think and problem solve... I guess it's a double-edged sword. It can be good, but it can be really bad.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. A common... I feel like a common word that has been brought up in my life in the last 15 years is balance.
SPEAKER_02:Yes.
SPEAKER_03:Man, it's such an important word. Balance is everything, man. It is. It is.
SPEAKER_02:I've never used that word so much until now, until I got older. My understanding balance and how important it is. When you're young... Nobody gives a fuck. It's opposite ends of the spectrum. Then you get older and you're like, if I was more like this and like this and like this and I balanced it out, probably wouldn't have made all the decisions that I did. I don't know. Anyway, I know we are way over time. If you got some stories you want to share, share them. Feel free. We are... Yeah, we're here for it. Get in the comments. Share them. Have fun. Speaking of fun. Speaking of fun. Do you want some fun in games, Chris? I always want some fun in games. Right? I know it's just us two, but we can still have this discussion because it is option-based. I'm going to give you four options. One of these has to go.
SPEAKER_03:Okay.
SPEAKER_02:All right. We got Little Caesars. We got Papa John's. We've got Domino's. And finally, Pizza Hut. Which one you sending off?
SPEAKER_03:johns ah
SPEAKER_02:no oh no oh no why why papa johns what did he do to you other than be a little racist wait sorry for the
SPEAKER_03:joke enough said okay
SPEAKER_02:moving on
SPEAKER_03:yeah i mean it's it's i i feel like that's the main reason okay and also um like truly speaking the last time i had papa john's pizza was incredibly disappointing really there was a point at which i ranked papa john's very high on the list of like chain pizzerias
SPEAKER_02:okay
SPEAKER_03:you know uh like when i was growing up my grandparents they always like to order papa john's mainly probably because they were one of the few that would actually deliver all the way out to where they lived
SPEAKER_02:gotcha
SPEAKER_03:um because they were kind of out in the sticks but um There were so many other options. We could have ordered Angelo's. Shout out Angelo's. Shout out Angelo's. I'm pretty sure that's a very small chain. Yeah, definitely. Got like two links left. Two links. That's
SPEAKER_02:it. That's
SPEAKER_03:it. Also the name of my rapper. Oh my God. Two links.
SPEAKER_02:Two links, but I got a few on.
SPEAKER_03:God damn it. But, yeah, like, we used to see Papa John's, and I love that they would come with, like, the little pepperoncinis. Okay. I love that. I love that pepperoncini game. Yeah. But then, like, Papa had to go and, like, be all
SPEAKER_02:weird. Be all racist and
SPEAKER_03:stuff. Yeah. Like, why he gotta be all, like... Why'd I say
SPEAKER_02:that? He
SPEAKER_03:tried to be like Hulk Hogan and it just didn't
SPEAKER_02:pan out for him. Oh, oh, oh, oh. You thought
SPEAKER_01:I was going to let him
SPEAKER_02:go? I wasn't even going to bring it up. I was like, we don't need to talk about him.
SPEAKER_01:No,
SPEAKER_02:I was like, we don't need to talk about him. We don't need to talk
SPEAKER_01:about
SPEAKER_02:him. He said, I brought the RPG. Fuck a street sweeper.
SPEAKER_03:Not in my house.
SPEAKER_02:Not in my house. He ain't getting away with this. I get it.
SPEAKER_03:I feel like these chain restaurants in general, companies in general, corporate America in general. Corporate America. In the last 10, maybe 15 years. Definitely the last 10 years. I feel like they're just manufacturing and production is tanked. Yeah. And I think that comes all the way down to the food level.
UNKNOWN:Yep.
SPEAKER_03:A lot of these companies low-key suck
SPEAKER_02:right now. They do. And they're expensive. You raise your price, it's all bullshit.
SPEAKER_03:Oh my god. You want to raise your price and lower your quality? That's crazy. That's crazy work. The fuck? Even Domino's. I have two slices upstairs. Shout out Domino's. Hey, listen. They're
SPEAKER_02:black
SPEAKER_03:box. Dude. What are we doing?
SPEAKER_02:I don't know. Pizza
SPEAKER_03:isn't that hard. Why are we doing this?
SPEAKER_02:It shouldn't be that
SPEAKER_03:hard,
SPEAKER_02:but...
SPEAKER_03:It's not a lot of ingredients. No, I get it. It's like water, yeast, flour, salt. That's like the dough in time. Time's the fifth ingredient on dough, and you can't even do that?
SPEAKER_02:Terrible. Fucking terrible. Oh, shit.
SPEAKER_03:But I do like Domino's. That's fair. I do eat them, but it's purely out of... It's out
SPEAKER_02:of spite. It's out of spite for Papa John's.
SPEAKER_03:Not really. Actually, there's so many local chains in Seattle. I wouldn't even call them chains. There's just local pizzerias that I think are better than the chain stuff. It's just every now and then, you know, fucking... mix two for$7.99.
SPEAKER_01:Okay,
SPEAKER_03:I got you. It's hard to beat. I hear you. You get two pizzas for$30. It's like, eh.
SPEAKER_02:It's not bad. Can't
SPEAKER_03:complain. You said out of those four, one has to go. I'm doubling down on Papa
SPEAKER_02:John's.
SPEAKER_03:And then if I did a mini ranking, it would be Pizza Hut, Little Caesars, Domino's, Papa John's number four.
SPEAKER_02:Little Caesars over Domino's.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, and I'll tell you why. It's a price thing.
SPEAKER_02:Okay.
SPEAKER_03:Like, what you're paying for and what you
SPEAKER_02:win. What you're getting. Okay.
SPEAKER_03:You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_02:All right, all right, all right. I can get behind that.
SPEAKER_03:Like, Domino's is a better pizza than Little Caesars, but for the price... Little Caesars got him beat
SPEAKER_02:on that. Okay. All right. All right. I'll give that to you. I'll give that
SPEAKER_03:to you.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Okay. That's
SPEAKER_03:a pure business decision.
SPEAKER_02:That is.
SPEAKER_03:I
SPEAKER_02:looked at my wallet for that decision.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, dude. This is a corporate meeting and
SPEAKER_02:I'm on a budget. Falling on a budget. He said, fuck flavor right now. How much money can you save me? Fuck that. Honestly, honestly, for me, Little Caesars gotta go. For me, Little Caesars gotta go. I've never, like, the only time I had Little
SPEAKER_03:Caesars.
SPEAKER_02:So, no. So, no. No. Oh, no, no, no. Little Caesars was big back in the day, like when we grew up. You know what I'm saying? Right.
SPEAKER_03:You used to dine in.
SPEAKER_02:Yes, used to dine in for Little Caesars. Did that with the press. Exactly. And I just remember we'd get Little Caesars, go to Blockbuster, Hollywood Video, whatever it was. Come on now. You know what I mean? And that would be... friday night right like that's that's what i remember but right now little caesars i never go there ever i haven't had i haven't had little caesars probably since i was a kid
SPEAKER_03:i
SPEAKER_02:just have no desire to go there because there are so many other
SPEAKER_03:needs to really go there
SPEAKER_02:there isn't unless honestly unless you are balling on a budget and you're like Give me that. I
SPEAKER_03:don't go there as often as it sounds like I do from raking them.
SPEAKER_02:No, I get it. I get it. I get it. But you go there enough to know that they are more affordable than Dominos.
SPEAKER_03:There's not a close one here in Seattle. Really? I got to drive 30 minutes minimum.
SPEAKER_02:Not for Little Caesars.
SPEAKER_03:Which is why the only time we get Little Caesars is if we out and about
SPEAKER_02:and
SPEAKER_03:we get a whiff of that garlicky cardboard.
SPEAKER_02:And we're like, ooh, I could go
SPEAKER_03:for some shit pizza right now. Okay, listen, chat. I'm talking to the audience right now. We all know that you have that one food that is absolutely shit. but you crave it because it's got fucking chemicals in it. I mean, yeah. Yeah. They got me. They got me.
SPEAKER_02:Gotcha bitch. Nah, but nah, I get it. I get it. Cause there is like, like raising canes for me is probably that one thing. Cause I hate their chicken. I think their chicken is the worst chicken.
SPEAKER_03:It's incredibly mid.
SPEAKER_02:It's disrespectfully mid.
SPEAKER_03:It's giving... No, I shouldn't say it. I won't say it. It's giving... No, because I don't know if I'm right.
SPEAKER_02:Say it!
SPEAKER_03:Where did Raising Cane's come from?
SPEAKER_02:Oh, I don't know. Somewhere in Georgia. That's a guess.
SPEAKER_03:If that's true, it might make my argument Coldwater.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, here we go. Why should it be Tennessee? Something stupid.
SPEAKER_03:Baton Rouge, Louisiana.
SPEAKER_02:Louisiana. How? That, no. That's what
SPEAKER_03:it says.
SPEAKER_02:No, they were kicked out of Louisiana. That's what happened. They didn't start there. Okay, they started there, but they got kicked out because they said that's disrespectful. I don't know. I'm just saying, how are you from Louisiana and you have the blandest chicken ever made? You know what it tastes like? You know what it tastes like, Chris? It tastes like somebody seasoned the chicken, washed it, and then breaded it.
SPEAKER_03:When did Okay, so Raising Cane's came around in 1996. Okay. Okay, I can finish what I was going to say. Raising Cane's chicken, their sauce, great. The little breadstick Texas toast thing, love it. The chicken tastes like a white guy went to Popeye's and said, let me try that.
SPEAKER_02:Thank you. Thank you. That chicken is... I literally just had this discussion with somebody today because one of my techs, he was eating. I was like, what you eating in there? He's like, canes. I was like, that's disgusting. He said, what do you mean? It's really
SPEAKER_00:good. I
SPEAKER_02:was like, what? You like canes? He was like, well, it's the sauce. I was like, that right there is why canes is trash. The sauce shouldn't make The chicken. Never. Ever. Should never. Your chicken should have something to say. The sauce should complement it. That's how it always should be. Always. But because they bank on that sauce, they don't give a fuck about that chicken. I can't believe that they bred their own chicken and they fail that bad.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:There's no way. There's no way. No
SPEAKER_03:way. Looking at you, Todd Graves.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. So but just to finish up the conversation, if I did have to do like like what you said, a mini, you know, mini ranking. Yeah, mini ranking. I'd probably rank it. I'd say. I'd say Pizza Hut. Papa John's simply for the garlic sauce. Love the garlic sauce. Their garlic sauce slaps. Yes. Yes. It
SPEAKER_03:slaps. For
SPEAKER_02:whatever reason. Doesn't matter the pizza. I think it's just
SPEAKER_03:a garlic butter, but it's not real butter. It must have some real butter in it, though. Because it does get thicker? Yeah, it does get thicker. So I bet you it has a percentage of real butter, but it's not mostly butter. I think it's mostly an oil.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, because when it's hot, that's basically what it
SPEAKER_03:looks like.
UNKNOWN:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:It looks more watery than anything. That garlic sauce slaps, and then I'd probably say Domino's, then Little Caesars. Again, Little Caesars, I just don't do it. Domino's, give me that black box. Give me the black box.
SPEAKER_03:Give me the black box. What's the black box about again? I
SPEAKER_02:believe it's like they're hand-tossed or something like that. The crust is really good, and I think it's brushed with like a garlic garlic butter on the crust. They got
SPEAKER_03:like a stuffed crust thing going on right now. Do they? That's what I got sitting upstairs.
SPEAKER_02:Bro, I'm hungry. I'm hungry. So we're gonna have to wrap this up. Because it's late and I need
SPEAKER_03:to eat. In lieu of that, I want to shout out one group of people. Go for it. All the food scientists, man. Hell yeah. The food people that sometimes... It's for the worse. But oftentimes, I think they're doing it for the better of humanity. And without them, we'd all be hunting and gathering. So
SPEAKER_02:thank you, food scientists. Or we'll be trying to make Coke flavors, and they taste like ass. So with that being said, brother, with that being said, we'll close this out. Do you want a fun fact?
SPEAKER_03:Always.
SPEAKER_02:Did you know that the world's oldest dog lived to be 29 and a half years old?
SPEAKER_03:Please tell me his name was Shaggy.
SPEAKER_02:Zoinks! So, What's the longest a dog can live for? It's a dog's life, but how long it lasts depends on a number of factors, including size and breed. I think we all know that. True, true, true. True, true. Facts, facts. The median lifespan of dogs is thought to be 10 to 13 years. But the figure varies significantly depending on the breed and a number of other factors. The oldest dog who ever lived, an Australian cattle dog named Bluey, survived to an age of 29 and a half. Now I'm curious... Is the show bluey based off of... Anyway, you analyze that. There is a surprising amount of research into the lifespan of very good boys. The Dog Aging Project is an ongoing canine health study in the United States that aims to understand how genes, lifestyle, and environment influence aging in man's best friend. Its research suggests the median survival time is actually a little over 15 years. It found little difference between males and females, but small breeds typically live longer. Mm-hmm. attributed to the same selective breeding that led to its large wrinkly heads. Its average lifespan is between five to six years, thought to be the shortest of any breed. Research like the Dog Aging Project is primarily conducted to increase the health span of our canine friends, the number of years they spend free of disease. But there's also something in it for humans. Dogs are thought to be a good model for human aging because they suffer some of the same ailments that we do in later years, such as obesity, diabetes, and arthritis. It's hoped that a better understanding of how dogs age will eventually help humans to live longer, more healthful lives. That's got to be worth at least a treat, right?
SPEAKER_03:Nice. You know what? You deserve that cookie. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank
SPEAKER_02:you. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Thank you.
SPEAKER_03:Thank you. My man. No, that's crazy. 29 and a half years
SPEAKER_02:old. 29 and a half years old. That's an old dog. 29?
SPEAKER_03:29?
SPEAKER_02:29? That's an old dog, though.
SPEAKER_03:That's an old dog. My dog, Daisy, is a young, ripe 13 years old. There you go.
UNKNOWN:Um...
SPEAKER_03:Which, there's two hard truths. One is she's getting one day closer to no longer being here.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:And two, because she's 13, she's above the threshold at which Donald Trump wouldn't be with
SPEAKER_02:a person. Oh, damn. For the Joe. Sorry. For the Joe. It's for the Epstein. We have... For the Joe. Like, we have been on a roll this episode.
SPEAKER_03:I don't know if that last one will make it, but
SPEAKER_02:I just saw my shot. It's making it. It's making it. But no, that's... Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_03:But yeah, dude, like, watching a dog age...
SPEAKER_02:It's tough. It's tough. It
SPEAKER_03:was easier when I was a kid because I didn't have to understand it all
SPEAKER_02:the way. Right.
SPEAKER_03:Like, I understood it. I knew what was happening.
SPEAKER_01:Right.
SPEAKER_03:But I didn't have to be as attached to it because I wasn't the one responsible for taking care of it. It's different. I just had to play with a friend,
SPEAKER_01:right?
SPEAKER_03:But now, I've raised Daisy for all 13 years of her life. Yep. Minus the first eight months before I adopted her. Mm-hmm. And... This year, she had her toe amputated because it was a weird ingrown wart situation under her toe or whatever. And she was just not having a good time. We didn't know what was going on. She always had this nail that was growing weird. But, yeah, she had to get her toe amputated. And then, like, now she's, like, having arthritis issues. Damn. And, like, she's full-blown a senior. But, like, I got a grandma.
SPEAKER_02:Yep.
SPEAKER_03:Walking around the house.
SPEAKER_02:Yep.
SPEAKER_03:In the form of a dog. You know? And it's just... There's no user manual.
SPEAKER_02:Okay. Like, that's facts. Like, facts. But I heard it from... Who was it? Elvis Duran. Shout out to Elvis Duran. Because when I found him, when I started working in Dayton, instantly fell in love with his show. But he does point out, for dogs, we are their entire life. We're their entire life. So whatever dog you have, you know you're outliving it. Hopefully. Yeah. If you're living right, you're going to outlive your dog. Remember that conversation we were having about the sunsets and not seeing relatively... It's weird
SPEAKER_03:how things come full circle like
SPEAKER_02:that. Just like the planet going full circle. Whoa. What? That's crazy, dude. It's crazy, bro. The earth is not flat. And on that, we will end. Pissed off another community.
SPEAKER_03:You thought this was a regular Friday? It's not.
SPEAKER_02:We came strapped. We came to fight.
SPEAKER_03:This is what happens when you leave unintended.
SPEAKER_02:It's exactly what happens. They're just the two of us. We're in trouble. We are in trouble. So we'll go ahead and wrap this up because it is late and I got to eat and get over to Yeti's house to watch his dogs because I'm sure they're like, where the fuck is everybody? So with that being said, don't forget. Magic Mike. Go ahead and get yours. Give it a try. See if it works for you. Stop by www.magicmind.com and use our discount code FMJPOD20 for 48% off your first subscription or 20% off first-time purchases. Give it a go. But until then, we don't really have anything to plug for our next episode. So I'm sure we will come up with something that's going to be interesting to talk about. We haven't had a guest in a long time.
SPEAKER_03:Maybe that's the move.
SPEAKER_02:I'm going to try. I'm going to talk to somebody and see if they're willing and ready. Because if they're ready, I'd like to get them on the show.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, word.
SPEAKER_02:And yeah, I think that might be what we do. I'll talk to them this weekend, see how they're feeling. But until then, Grizz, say ta-ta to your fans.
UNKNOWN:Bye!
SPEAKER_02:I mean, you can if you want to. You can dance if you want to.
SPEAKER_03:Nah, there was a plague
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