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This is the ever. And this is the FSK.
SPEAKER_01:Oh my god.
SPEAKER_03:Motherfuckers, motor, stop. Never.
SPEAKER_00:My cats are being assholes. I'm sorry. Okay, are we ready? Ready to get this show on the road? Yeah. Everybody knows what the topic is. Buttholes?
SPEAKER_05:Buttholes. You got it.
SPEAKER_00:Welcome back to another beautiful episode of the FMJ podcast where we make all of your wildest fantasies come true. I am just kidding. We don't do that. Unless you tuck Yeti into his pajama clothes and read him a bednight story. A bednight story? Because that's what that's what Yeti asks for all the time. Give me Bednight Story. Okay.
SPEAKER_01:Give me Bed Night story. Okay, Yeti.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, he's all tuckered out. He's the goddamn sandboard. Oh, that's all tuckered out. I was like, where did that come from?
SPEAKER_05:Never mind.
SPEAKER_00:But me and Templeton know exactly where that came from.
SPEAKER_04:So I'm glad you guys remember.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. So anyway, um, read Yeti a bednight story. That's exactly what they're going to be called from here on out. Um let's let's let's let's check everybody's pulse today. Let's start with you know what? I bet he's unprepared. Yeti!
SPEAKER_04:His eyes are so big. Sure M. Sure M.
SPEAKER_01:Sure M. What the fuck does your pulse look like? Let's see if he can improvise. Um, I'm gonna say is um he's thinking um he's gonna guess. Um I'm gonna guess twenty-four. Okay. Jesus Christ.
SPEAKER_00:Number one, it's a very low pulse. I mean, like incredibly slow. But if I had to guess, that's a measurement of something, yeah?
SPEAKER_04:I don't know. It might be.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I think it is that's how tomorrow. Yeah, I think that's how tall your daughter is. 24 inches. Anyway, about 24, yeah, 24-4 pulses. Very low. I hope we're able to uh pick it up. Yeah, no shit. I hope we're able to pick it up in a little bit. Oh, you know what? I forgot I have this here side note. I just see it over there. I'm like, why is that there? Woohoo!
SPEAKER_04:So anyway, that's a great thing to have over there.
SPEAKER_00:All right, so anyway, Yeti, how we doing? What's going on? What's new with you?
SPEAKER_04:Um so everything's going pretty good, to be honest with you. Um, I've been on my bonding time with my daughter.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, that's always funny.
SPEAKER_04:Um, yeah, my work work gave me two weeks, which didn't affect my vacation or my sick or anything like that. So that's that's pretty cool in itself. Um but yeah, that's that's what I that's what I was doing, and that's yeah, that's where I'm at right now.
SPEAKER_00:Okay. Bonding time, always important, right? Always important 100% always important. Get that bonding time in with with with the bebe.
unknown:I'm just kidding.
SPEAKER_03:How many diapers have you changed over the show?
SPEAKER_01:I don't fucking know. 758. Yeah, yeah, that's that's crazy. So I would say this.
SPEAKER_04:So I I'll try to make this conversation pretty quick. So I when I was told I was gonna be able to have bonding time, my brain is very it's a very basic bitch.
SPEAKER_00:It's very pumpkin spice latte.
SPEAKER_04:If that's a rating, that's where it's at. Um, but nah, just like I took it as time, like I knew I was gonna be spending time with my daughter, don't get me wrong, but I just didn't know what that was gonna look like, you know. Like, and having gone through it, I had a doctor's appointment today with her, and like how I was able to communicate with the doctor on some of the things that she likes, doesn't like, like I didn't realize I'd learn all of that during the two weeks. Like, I just didn't think that far into it. Does that make sense? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:You you you seen it at a very surface level of bonding time, it's just time away from work, and I'm okay with that. But you didn't you didn't go deeper into it, like you're about to spend a lot of time with your daughter that you're about to like you know really learn about and get to know. Right. So there is that.
SPEAKER_04:So it was eye-opening and it was a lot of fun. What's up, Elam? What's up, little guy?
SPEAKER_01:Say hi.
unknown:Hi, Uncle Charles.
SPEAKER_01:Can't hear him. He said hi. Tell him to say hi in the microphone. Say, hey, say, say hi, Yeti.
unknown:Hi, Yeti.
SPEAKER_00:Right here, right here, right here, right here, right here.
SPEAKER_05:Hi, Yeti.
SPEAKER_00:What's up, Elam? So anyway, um, but yes, you were looking at it from a very surface level, and you didn't I was, I was you didn't go too too far into it of I'm gonna learn, I'm about to learn this, this, this child. Like, that's literally what you what you're about to do.
SPEAKER_04:And and I'm not saying that was bad of me to think that way, it's just the way I think. Like, I don't when I think of things, I try not to stress myself out. So I tend to think at a lot of things at surface level for what they were for what it is, right?
SPEAKER_01:Right.
SPEAKER_04:Because I don't want to stress myself out. I want to live, you know, as stress-free as possible. Makes sense. If you start to dwell and dive into everything that happens or you're doing, I feel like it causes unnecessary stress. That's the way I feel about that.
SPEAKER_00:It can, but it also does help peeling back layers and and and figuring things out, you know what I mean? Diving deeper into some things, but but for for for the most part, because because especially with what what you went through bonding with Gigi, it's it was a it was a happy so like surprise, right? Like you're like, oh yes, I was not I was not aware that I would learn so much. So it was eye-opening, it was an experience. Yes, and and now here you are.
SPEAKER_04:Yes, yes, it's a completely different, it's like a 180.
SPEAKER_00:Right, right. You're like, I thought this was gonna be really chill and casual, but now I'm like, maybe not so much, you know?
SPEAKER_04:And I'm not complaining by any means. Like, I'm not sure. It's not a bad.
SPEAKER_00:Right, it's not it's not a net negative, like it's it's all it's all positive, but that's cool. Um uh you gotta you gotta love uh the bonding time you got with Gigi, so that's always fun.
SPEAKER_05:Right.
SPEAKER_00:One second, guys.
SPEAKER_04:It's like four seconds so far. Yeah, I know. Bro, I'm gonna need you to talk about it. You know what?
SPEAKER_00:You know what? I said five seconds, legally. So anyway. Well, anything else? Any anything anything else that you're that you're oh no way because I'm sitting here messing with him.
unknown:What?
SPEAKER_04:No, you're good. Keep going.
SPEAKER_00:Keep it going. Keep it going, keep it moving.
SPEAKER_04:No, the only other thing I got is I still am sitting on my hobby box from tops. Okay. Yeah, I I don't I don't understand how like I nothing's getting signed. Like, so I don't understand why it's taking so long. Like Grant, how long has it been? Like two weeks? It's been it's been a minute. Yeah, it's been I think it's been about two weeks since I submitted the number to get the redemption. And it's it just still says it says pending. Huh.
SPEAKER_00:That's interesting. I wanna I wonder. I wonder why that's it.
SPEAKER_04:Right, and like I said, it's not like so I I Google, I looked into it, and people are like, oh well, if if if if they're needing a card signed, or if they need it signed by multiple people, like they may not have the card right then and there, so that takes time. So I get all that. I I totally understand that. But but nothing's getting signed. That's fair, nothing's getting signed. Like it's it's it's a sealed box that in my mind should already be sealed, right? Sitting somewhere, it should be, and all it is is it's it all it really takes is for someone to be like, hey, is this number one of the numbers in the system that we gave out? Oh it is okay, approved. Hey, Johnny, get that box, Johnny, put this address on it.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, Johnny, Johnny's slacking, apparently. Someone slacking me, Johnny. Yeah, fucking Johnny. He needs he needs he needs to do something. Um, but that nah that uh uh all it sounds like all positive things, save for like the pending uh uh hobby box that you that you should have gotten already. But um, no, just that's that's cool. That's cool. Like when do you go back to work? Monday.
SPEAKER_04:And I'm kind of not looking forward to it. It may it makes me wish that I had more time, mu money after work. Yeah, I get that. To be to be quite honest with you, like you just get so comfortable, and I'm just like, ugh. Right.
SPEAKER_00:What is this work shit that we have to do right now? Yeah, it's a it's a it's a terrible, it's terrible, it's a terrible deal that we all signed up for it. That that we're gonna do.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, like I want to know who in the who said, hey, us Americans need to work 40 hours a week, some five days a week, some rich dude somewhere that was like, I'm not, I'm not gonna, because I'm not gonna do it.
SPEAKER_00:Somebody needs to do it, but I'm not gonna do it. That's crazy. It is, it's absolutely happening. Yeah, it's absolutely happening. It really is. Okay, well, I'm glad everything's going swell. Um, it does suck that you gotta go back to work. Uh congrats on the bonding time with Gigi. You'll get more of that, I'm sure.
SPEAKER_05:Um, I will, 100%.
SPEAKER_00:So, Templeton. What's up? What's your pulse look like? 73. 73? 73. That's pretty, I mean, that's that's that's so high. No, that's average. That's pretty good. That's actually that's that's a rest that's a good resting heart rate. That's a good resting heart rate. Yeah, it's not 24. Okay, it's uh big to different uh whatever, man. Any anything new with you, bro? Any any anything? I know you not really, man. I know you've been uh kind of kind of playing some Borderlands 4.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'm a you guys know, big Borderlands fan.
SPEAKER_04:Right. So how how addicted are you on a scale of one to ten?
SPEAKER_00:How addicted are you and why can't you break the addiction?
SPEAKER_03:It's it's it's so weird. Like I I like the game. I like the game a lot, but it's so much different than all the other Borderlands games. It is. Okay, so I have a question.
SPEAKER_04:Are you are you how asked this? Are you liking what you've played so far?
SPEAKER_03:I like it, but it's almost like you're playing Borderlands for the first time.
SPEAKER_05:Okay.
SPEAKER_00:There is there's a little bit of a learning curve. Yeah, I will say that. I mean, for the most part, the the mechanics are virtually the same, but there are some things to get used to, especially like um uh not having to catch a ride. That's that's I mean, I like that. That's weird. It is it is a little strange. It is a little strange because it because it kind of I think that's where I think that's where it does feel different because without the catch a ride, without having to forcefully walk somewhere to go get it, it streamlines the game a little bit. And it and it quit and it you know picks up the pace a little bit.
SPEAKER_03:They sort of had to do that because the map is fucking massive, it's huge, dude. Massive is fucking dumb. But the the things that like really threw me is like there's a grapple. There was never a grapple before. Right. There's like a glide feature that was that never existed before.
SPEAKER_00:Yep, the jetpack.
SPEAKER_03:Um, you got like a it's basically I don't remember what it's called, like a rep kick or it's a stim pack, basically. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, it's a it's a it's a rep kit. Yeah, rep kit, which is you know a repeat.
SPEAKER_03:Right. So it's like you have to kind of relearn how to play the game.
SPEAKER_00:A little bit. Because it it does have some again, it has some new mechanics on top of the old ones, and that's why when I was following it, I was like, they did enough of an overhaul to where it's gonna feel like a different game, and that's where I'm like, that's where I was excited about it.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I I don't I don't dislike it, I like it quite a bit, but I'm just like I have to relearn borderline because it's like it's very different.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, you're like, I gotta relearn my favorite franchise.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, but it's I absolutely love it, I can't get enough of it, and what I also like about it is so having a child, it is challenging to sit down and play for 20 minutes, 30 minutes straight. So, like getting into a Fortnite match or a Call of Duty match, you can't do times of commitment. Yeah, where if I'm playing Borderlands, I can just hit that pause button and I'm straight. So if you guys have ever noticed, like if you guys ever get on and you guys just see me there, I may not be there because my Xbox has been on pretty much this entire week, right? Right. So, but I wasn't on the entire week, but it says that I was on the entire week, right?
SPEAKER_03:Because you were doing your duties, like yes, 270 hours of gameplay, but actually 32 hours of actual gameplay.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, yeah. No, it's literally gonna be like right now. If I were to go look, it probably does say something crazy like that. Because how many fuck just 24 hours in the day times what seven? Seven. So what is that? Like 200?
SPEAKER_00:I don't like math. Yeah, I hate numbers. It's like 280. Yeah, so but no, um, Templeton. What's up? Borderlands 4 is is pretty dope. So I'll it's a great game.
SPEAKER_03:I'm not I'm not disappointed. It's just different, it's like a learning experience.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, but you know, something uh something to look forward to, right? Yeah, so so there you have it. Anything else? Pick it up if you can. Yeah, any anything else going on with you other than Borderlands 4?
SPEAKER_03:I mean, not really. Um works you know, work. Work is working. Everything with me and Mrs. Timbleton is is all good.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, that's good. That's good.
SPEAKER_03:I got a family engagement coming up next weekend, which I'm 50-50 looking forward to. Like it's nice to have like some chill time and and hang out and stuff, but my family is my family, so that's right.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah, I hear you. Always gotta always gotta look forward to that stuff, right? Other than that, like everything, everything's everything, dog. Well, good. Good, good, good. Sounds like everybody is doing fine, chill, uh, nothing too crazy. Um, I'm I'm glad to hear it. Let's keep that uh let's keep that trend going.
SPEAKER_04:Let's keep that energy going.
SPEAKER_00:Right, let's keep that energy going. And with that energy, we can roll right into entertainment news. Who wants some? Let's hear it. So I got a couple things to talk about today. It's in the rumor mill. It's not hasn't been confirmed yet, but apparently K-pop demon hunters is coming to Fortnite.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, I heard that. I heard that.
SPEAKER_00:What? Like I know we I know we talked about it. We had a whole show on it, and and and I gotta say, if they give me Huntry's skin, or even like Saja Boys, like, I'm there, right? Like, if I get a little bit my little soda pop, bro, I'm I'm going to I'm going to abuse those emotes.
SPEAKER_04:He's gonna he's not gonna be driving around his uh his car anymore.
SPEAKER_00:Nope, nope. I'm gonna be I'm gonna be dancing my little soda pop. Like, it's gonna happen. Like, like, like Epic, you will create a monster. So you have been warned. Be careful. So I am I am interested if that will actually come to fruition. I have to believe it it will, especially with the popularity of K-pop demon hunters. I have a I have a hard time believing that they won't do that. Um, but the other thing I want to bring up, since we're talking about Borderlands, um Borderlands, Randy Pitchford. I don't know if you guys have heard about him. Um I know the name. Okay, so he is not heard of him. He's he's he's the guy from Gearbox. He's he's apparently like CEO or whatever at Gearbox. And he has been giving Yeah, he has been giving uh fans of well, players of Borderlands 4 a lot of grief. Because people have been complaining, they've had their uh um well they've had their complaints about the game. Uh one of the biggest ones is apparently like some people on console, the longer they play it, the slower the game runs, or the worse the game gets. Because apparently, um I don't know exactly what it is, I gotta look into it, but some people are suggesting that there's memory leak on the game for consoles. So essentially what that means is that it it it eventually stops. It it stops um Oh my god. Help me out, help me out here.
SPEAKER_03:Um I can't, I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_00:So like so like things don't load super quick after a while. Like it starts to like stutter and and things get blurry, uh frame rates drop, all that kind of stuff, but it stops um oh I can't, I can't even I can't even think of the word. Um, but uh uh memory loss? No, no. I mean that's the memory leak. Um, but anyway, regardl regardless of what I'm trying to say, like optimizing. Ha ha, there it is. It stops optimizing as well as it does when you first start the game up. So after a while, the optimization of the game starts to go down. And what's funny is I did kind of notice that. As I was walking along the road, I noticed that the road uh beneath me, after I played for a while, it doesn't like it doesn't buffer like it buffers for a while. It doesn't like come to the case.
SPEAKER_04:So when you say when you said played for a while, like on the hour or uh on the span? On the on the how long is a while on the span.
SPEAKER_00:I mean you're talking like um like five, six, seven hours of gameplay is when you really start seeing hour then.
SPEAKER_04:So you're talking about it when you're sitting there and you're playing for six, seven hours. Yes. Okay, not like for like not like not like not like third.
SPEAKER_00:No, no, no, no, no, no, no. They're talking when you're sitting down for a long, long time and you're grinding for a few hours in one sitting, and you've been playing for a long time on console, apparently, it it starts to have issues. Like it has a problem optimizing after a while. And that's something that that people have been have been, you know, that's a that's a grieving point that people brought up. And Randy Pitchford has done nothing but like come after fans and basically say, well, uh make your own uh engine and see what you can do.
SPEAKER_03:I mean I mean the other thing is wrong. This game has been out for a literal week.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:So there's there's gonna be there's gonna be tweaks, there's gonna be adjustments that they have to make. That happens every game.
SPEAKER_00:Right. So so here's here's the here's our question, though. Could this could this be part of the complaint that people have been having about games not putting out a complete game? That they're rushing the game out and and and now we have a game that is like not performing as it should, like it's underperforming, even though, even though uh Borderlands 4 has broke it's broke series records in 24 hours of it within 24 hours of its release. So one of the most successful Borderlands in the series, because I think a lot of people were you know waiting and anticipating for this game, but with the performance issues that it is having, giggity um like can we say that like yeah, Yeti, to your point, he's not wrong. Like, you know, they they they put a lot of time into making the game, all that kind of stuff. They put it out to us. Could they have taken a little bit longer to make sure that we had a game that ran optimally, especially on a console?
SPEAKER_04:Okay, so here's the thing, okay? When I look at when if you compare the bugs to this game to bugs of other games, and I will straight name drop right now, we're gonna say Call of Duty. Call of Duty, okay, call of day one, there's you can't play a game mode, like there's a lot wrong, like they'll take out a map. Um the the the the emotes aren't loading right, like it's just everything is off, and you're just like that's where I feel like it's a complete failure, not a complete game. Okay, you made an example of the road not loading, okay. You were playing for five plus hours, the average person doesn't play five plus hours in one sitting.
SPEAKER_00:You're absolutely right. The average player does not do that.
SPEAKER_04:I agree. So what they're complaining about, in my opinion, is chump change. Okay. I understand it might be a little frustrating, but are you still able to play the game? Did it really affect you playing the game? Now, if you would have came and said, I opened up a chest, I seen a legendary loot, and it fell between the road that was paved and the road that wasn't paved, and I lost it. Now that could be frustrating, but you walking down somewhere or driving a vehicle over somewhere, and the frame rate loses, the optimization loses for like a millisecond, but it catches back up at some point. Come on, really? Yeah, who cares about that? Right?
SPEAKER_00:So, yeah, like so for me, yes, like like that's just that's just my experience. Other people were talking about like some people were saying they were playing for like six, seven hours, and then all of a sudden the game would really start lagging, like you'd be like, like almost like you're ping, almost like when your ping is like really high, and like you just start to like like when you start glitching out in Fortnite, and you're just you all of a sudden just are everywhere, and that's what some people were reporting. Now, how true that is, I don't know, but these are people reporting their experience with Borderlands 4. Now, could there be other factors? Could it be, especially on on the PS5, could it be that they're that it's that the PS5 is not in a great place where it's overheating? Maybe. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_03:Could be an internet issue.
SPEAKER_00:Could be an internet issue, could be could be shoddy internet. Are you running Wi-Fi or are you hardlined? You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_05:Like, right, right.
SPEAKER_00:What are the other factors that could possibly be going into this? I'm just bringing up a talking point. Um, as far as, you know, we always talk about consumers do have some blame in what we're getting from game developers nowadays. Uh that that's why I just want to bring up a talking point. Is it possible that they could have, you know, maybe pushed it back a week or two to make sure that everything was all fixed and it ran nice and smooth? Because here's the thing. I get it. Yeah, here's the thing. I enjoyed Borderlands 3 to like to the fullest. And Borderlands 3, it runs very similarly. Well, Borderlands 4 runs similarly to Borderlands 3. Borderlands 3 had the same issues for me. Like every after a while of gaming, like stuff would have a issue loading. Like it, like it would just buffer, it'd be a little bit blurry for a little bit, and then it'd come in. But that doesn't break the game for me. You know what I'm saying? Right. So that's all. No, I just I just wanted to bring that up. That's all.
SPEAKER_04:That was a very that was a very good question. Good job, buddy. Aww, thanks, man.
SPEAKER_00:Thanks, man.
SPEAKER_04:You get you get a gold star for today's work.
SPEAKER_00:Thanks, man. I I wanted to come prepared today because I was so far behind. Um, regardless, enjoy Borderlands 4, everybody listening. Enjoy it. Don't listen to other people. Other people have their experiences, fine. That's great. Yeah, make your own decisions. Make your own decisions. Play the game. I think it's an amazing game.
SPEAKER_03:It's a lot of fun. I love 30 pressures. I'm a giant, giant Borderlands fan, and I like it.
SPEAKER_00:So just just you know, come to your own come to your own conclusion about the game. Don't don't let us it wasn't there, this wasn't there to deter people. It was just a talking point. You know, like I said, we all we all have mentioned on this podcast that we take uh accountability as as consumers sometimes, that we allow developers to do these things because we continue to consume. So you know, just wanted uh just wanted to bring that up. But um, other than that, there's your entertainment news. Yeti! Yeti spaghetti.
SPEAKER_04:You rang.
SPEAKER_00:Do you have a Reddit roulette for us? Do you have like a Reddit stories to roulette around? Do you think I'm ready? No. I th I think you're unprepared as hell. He said, What did you think I was doing?
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, let's go. Alright. Fred. I'm sorry, Templeton. What's up? Who's Fred?
SPEAKER_01:Sounds like a good idea. What'd you do with Fred? I don't know who Fred is. Templeton, what'd you do with Fred? I don't know who he is.
SPEAKER_04:Um pick a number one through no point five through one point seven.
SPEAKER_03:What in the actual hell is that? No, that's 1.7. Like okay, I okay, like one? Good hand.
SPEAKER_04:He said he said he said six. Did you see my eyebrow go up? I pulled the rock. Wait, what?
SPEAKER_00:I need you to pick a number between 0.5 and 1.7. Six.
unknown:What?
SPEAKER_00:Huh?
SPEAKER_03:Huh? I thought for sure he's gonna be like 10 or some shit. Yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, Yeti, we can't hear you. Your microphone. Yeah, you went muted. You went silent. You've been silenced by your microphone. Oh, he'll be back. He shall return. Hopefully with his camera on.
SPEAKER_01:Ah, there he is.
SPEAKER_04:Alright, so this one actually has potential. Let's go. Alright. Am I the asshole for telling someone about an event and then not going to it? Oh, damn. Yeah. So we're gonna do this one a different, we're gonna do this one a little bit different. We're gonna do this one by layers. So reading the headline, what's y'all's opinion? Asshole or not? I can't answer that because I need context.
SPEAKER_00:Hang on. For telling them for telling them about an event and then not going to it.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, that's it. That's all that's in the bowl. That's all the bowl fine print.
SPEAKER_00:Not an asshole. I'm gonna say not an asshole.
SPEAKER_03:I'm gonna say asshole. I I agree with Jeremy, because like somebody's like, hey, if I knew like Luke Combs is coming to town, and I know somebody loves country music, I'd be like, hey, dude, Luke Combs is gonna be coming to town next month. I would know that they would want to go, but I'm not gonna fuck I don't give a shit about Luke Combs. That's fair.
SPEAKER_04:That is a very valid argument. My rebuttal to that is don't be telling me shit that's gonna happen if you ain't gonna go. Like, if you're telling me that means you want to go.
SPEAKER_00:And not necessarily, not necessarily. You could no, not necessarily. You could you like somebody might say, you know, especially, oh well, I th hey, I thought about. You because so and so is coming to town. I don't like them. I know you like them. I don't want to go. But if you turn around and was like, hey, I need somebody to go with me, will you go? I might accept the invitation. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly.
SPEAKER_03:Exactly.
SPEAKER_00:But I'm but I'm not an asshole just for telling you about it. That's like no no no no no no no no no. That's like saying, Hey, uh uh uh there's hey, there's a hey, greater's is open.
SPEAKER_04:Right. Yeah, I mean I know you like this thing. Why are you telling me? Are we gonna go?
SPEAKER_00:Hey, you like no no no I'm just saying greater's is open.
SPEAKER_03:No, why does why does me telling you that this thing you like is happening have to do anything with me, right? Like I'm letting you know that this thing that you enjoy is coming to town, you might want to go. I don't know.
SPEAKER_04:Okay, I understand what you're saying. I get it, I understand what you guys' point of view. Nah, nah, don't come to me with with with a with a an option to do something and you ain't part of the option. No, what does your what you like have to do with me exactly because like it's I have never gone up to someone and been like, hey, the Bengals play this weekend? Okay, okay what does that mean? Get it.
SPEAKER_00:Can I ask you a question? I mean, okay, thanks for telling me, but no, okay, what what what does that mean? What does that mean? Go ahead, tell me what's your question?
SPEAKER_03:What if you like your most favorite musical artist in the entire fucking world ever was coming to town? And I knew they were coming to town, I didn't want to go, so I didn't bother telling you. And then you were like, Oh, dude was in town. I wish I'd have known, I would have gone. I'm like, Yeah, I knew he was coming.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I knew he was coming.
SPEAKER_03:Why the fuck didn't you tell me? Why the fuck didn't you tell me?
SPEAKER_00:Okay. So you know what's funny? You want to know it's actually fucking hilarious. What? You haven't even read the story, and we're having a hole he did. No, I haven't even read it.
SPEAKER_04:That's my asshole. You read the headline, and we're already going back and forth about who's an asshole. I'm already lying about this. All right, so we got two that's say not the asshole, not the asshole, and you got one standing on a hill.
SPEAKER_00:Just based off of the title, Templeton and I say not the asshole. Because just because I tell you about something doesn't mean that I want to go. That's not those credits don't transfer. I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I just want you to know because I know you like that thing. Right.
SPEAKER_00:Well, I thought you wanted to go because you said something. Nah, bro. You like it. So I'm like okay. Read the story.
SPEAKER_01:So we're in context. So it's from Active Vegetable.
SPEAKER_04:Active Vegetable. That's that sounds fine. Right. Recently moved and have been trying to make some new friends in the area. Recently, I was talking with someone I had just met. We knew some of the same people. A shared interest came up, and I said, Hey, you know there's a thing for that next week. Hmm. That's what we're talking about right now. I mentioned this just to share the info and got a non-committal sharing sort of response. I wasn't sure if I didn't if I didn't tend the event either, and I left it at that. A week goes by. In the meantime, I had been invited by a common friend to do something else that evening. I get a text from the first person announcing that they're on their way to the event. I reply and ended up I reply that I ended up doing something else that night, but that I hope they enjoy it. Well, another week later, that person has accused me of lying to them and ditching them to hang out with someone else because I don't like them. From what I can tell, the misunderstanding tell the misunderstanding is that they think I gave them clear invite to attend this invent with me, and that's not how I recall it. I have since indicated that I had no intent of deceiving anyone and apologize for the misunderstanding, but they still seem to be mad at me. Am I the asshole?
SPEAKER_00:That's that's Yeti, the person that that was that's like, why would you tell me if you didn't want to fucking go, dummy? Because I what do you mean?
SPEAKER_04:Okay, okay, time. I need you to fucking pump your little fucking roll pencil out. Still not the asshole, by the way. Okay, okay. Number one, it is more than just a fucking sentence conversation. Whatever, man. Okay. If you come to me and say, hey, da da da da da da, I'm gonna be like, oh, that actually sounds pretty fun. You gonna go to it? Do you do you wanna go to it? I don't know, maybe. Well, if you go to it.
SPEAKER_03:Hold on. Me saying that, hey, this thing is happening is very, very different than you asking me if I want to go. Correct. That's what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_04:That's what I'm saying. Like, if you come to me, there's gonna I base my response off of just the headline.
SPEAKER_01:Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_04:Okay, not knowing any backstory. Right. In my situation, in my real life, there's gonna be a full-blown conversation, right? It's not gonna be a sentence cool, see you later. Correct. Yeah, like after reading the whole thing, he's not an asshole. Because if he never made plans, he's not the asshole. I get that. There was never a conversation had. I understand that. But if it's a one-sentence, am I the asshole for telling someone about an event and then not going? Yeah, with no context.
SPEAKER_00:Sorry, right, with no context, sure. You can you can say asshole, but just hearing it, I'm like, how would I react to that? Like, no, not not the asshole. Just because you told me about something, and then did we didn't we never had a conversation about it, like just because you told me about something, regardless of conversation, does not mean that a you want to go, right? Like, if you came to me and said, hey, uh, so-and-so's in town, cool.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I mean, it's neat, it's something I'm gonna be real, it's it's it's something that I do often, not so much with you guys because we have like similar interests, but like other people, I'll be like, oh, because like I there's a lot of like entertainment venues and stuff that are like part of my job, so I know when like an act is coming to town, yeah, like way ahead of time, right? So if I know that someone is coming to town, and I know that someone that I know is like a fan of that person, I will let them know way ahead of time, like hey, so-and-so is coming to town in June, so-and-so is coming to town in October, so and so is coming to town in November, and I don't like I have no interest in going to that show, right? But I want I want them to know so that if they want to go, that they can go.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, or if they even knew that they were going, they can then make the decision if they want to go or not. Now, obviously, again, if it would be different if they had a conversation, if he brought it up and said, Hey, so-and-so is coming to town, or this is this is what's going on. Oh, cool, and like what you described, Yeti. If if if uh the other guy, I guess not OP, the whoever the OP gave the information to, um, was like, Hey, bone for not asking questions. Right. So, are you going? That that sounds like fun. Are you going? No, I'm not going. Well, well, well, maybe we can go. You do you want to go? Right. Like you want to go? That should have been a conversation.
SPEAKER_03:Entirely different conversation. Totally different conversation. 100% is a different conversation.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, so so so no, not the asshole. If the guy just just assumed, we don't we don't make assumptions, we don't do that. No, we don't just assume you're gonna go somewhere just because you said something about it.
SPEAKER_03:So I do want to make assumptions. Um, the uh our audience probably doesn't know that um Temple used to be married.
SPEAKER_00:He used to be.
SPEAKER_03:He used to be.
SPEAKER_04:Back when I was young, and I'm not kidding anymore.
SPEAKER_03:Miss Templeton had a had a really bad habit of being like, hey, this event is happening this day, or so-and-so is gonna be on town on this day. And like me acknowledging that she said what she said, like, oh, okay, that's cool. But what she was really saying was, hey, this thing is happening, and I want us to go.
SPEAKER_00:Right, you need you need to take me.
SPEAKER_03:You yeah, but she didn't say, hey, like, can we go to this thing, or we I want to go to this thing, or whatever, like like make the plan, you know what I mean? Yeah, right. So then the day would come up, and she would be like, Hey, what time are we leaving? I'm like, leaving for what?
SPEAKER_00:What time are we leaving? Excuse me, what do you mean leaving? Caitlin Templeton, hang on, all I'm envisioning is Templeton in like some like like pajamas. Fucking eating Cheetos, eating Cheetos hanging out, and she just pops up. So uh we're leaving in like an hour, right? He's like, the fuck. So like you see me eating Cheetos in my in my nightgown, in my night, in my nightwear. What do you mean? I'm not leaving anywhere.
SPEAKER_03:I can't count because it happened a lot, but it happened more than three times.
SPEAKER_00:That's crazy. That's that's actually crazy. Because I'll tell you what, let somebody let somebody try to pull some shit like that on me and be like, I'll I'll laugh in their face.
SPEAKER_03:Just say, hey, I want to go.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, knock yourself out.
SPEAKER_03:But like if you just tell me that this thing is happening, I'm like, okay, that thing is happening. Like, I don't know what that fuck that has to do with me. But anyway, like my point is like if you want as like a friend or a couple or whatever to do something with another person, you need to let them know. Right.
SPEAKER_01:Yes.
SPEAKER_03:So if they if they are telling you like this event is happening, that should be taken at face value. If you want to go to that thing with them, you have to be clear that that that conversation should be had.
SPEAKER_00:Yes, you have to be clear and concise if you want something to come of it. Don't just tell me an event, you know what I'm saying? I mean, like, like again, I will give you the that's that's cool, neat, awesome. I wanna I wanna go. Oh, okay. Now we can have a now we can have a whole conversation about this. Oh, you wanna go? Okay, cool. What what what day is it? What time is it? Uh is it is it a is it a week? Is it a weekday? Is it a school night? Is it on a Saturday? Because I didn't know if I need to take the days off, you know what I'm saying? Now we start playing it. But if I if you just come to me and say, hey, this is happening. Cool.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, cool.
SPEAKER_00:Right, right, exactly. But you know, you know, okay. So here's here's here's the other side of that coin playing devil's advocate. Because somebody somewhere, and I know they're gonna be in our listeners somewhere, is gonna be like, if he wanted to, he would. I mean, but like these are the same people. I'm just saying, I'm just saying, somebody somewhere is gonna be like, he should have picked up on that hint. I'm not a psychic.
SPEAKER_05:Right, right, right, right, right.
SPEAKER_03:But these are the same people, and like, listen, I'm one of those people, but I stand by what I say, right? When it comes to like a healthy relationship, a functional relationship, a relationship at last, like communication is the foundation for any relationship.
SPEAKER_04:100%, bro.
SPEAKER_03:You can't just say, hey, I like nail polish.
SPEAKER_01:Cool.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, that's awesome. I'm happy for you, baby. That's great, sweetie. That's gonna that's going right on the fridge.
SPEAKER_03:Like, if you have a specific nail polish that you want, hey, could you I wouldn't mind you if you caught me at this, or like, you know, ask.
SPEAKER_00:Right.
SPEAKER_03:Or like just don't be vague.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, being being vague is is just I don't know. I don't know. It's it's definitely a problem. Um, but the pre again, the other side of that is they be they they do vague on purpose to see if you'll pick up on the on the on the context clues that are that are tucked away in that vague statement. And hoping that you listen, once we understand that men are very, very simple.
SPEAKER_04:We we learned that earlier today when I said I I look at things like service level. Yeah, service level.
SPEAKER_00:Service level. Like when you have this is where this is where peeling back the layers comes in, right? I don't want to get too far into this because this is not this is not what it's all about.
SPEAKER_03:This is not the show, right?
SPEAKER_00:This isn't the show, but it is important to to say that this goes for anybody, right? This goes for men and women alike. You gotta start peeling back those layers, right? Like if you bring something surface level, that's all that is. That's all you're gonna get. It's what it is. That's you that's what you're gonna get. If you want something deeper, as Templeton said, communication. Okay, so you brought the surface level. Now you have to take it a level deeper. Oh, well, I was interested in it because I kind of thought about us going. Oh, okay. Now we can start planning. Well, what day is it? What time is it? Uh this, that, and the other thing. Is it is it is it tomorrow? Is it a month from now? Is it a year from now? I mean, tell me tell me more now because I want to know.
SPEAKER_05:Tell me more, tell me more.
SPEAKER_03:I mean, like the the whole conversation could be like started with a simple question like, do you want to go?
SPEAKER_00:Do you want to go? Right, right. So-and-so is coming to town, do you want to go? See how I said so-and-so's coming to town, comma. Do you want to go? That's how a conversation works. It's in the same sentence. Preface, so-and-so's coming to town. Subject, subject, so-and-so's coming to town. Question, do you want to go? I'll give you an answer. You know what? Maybe let's see. Okay, let's talk about it. Now you can have a dialogue, but you know, that's an that's another conversation for another time. Um, anyway, not the asshole. Now close. Nowhere close. OP, uh, get some new friends, I guess. I don't know.
SPEAKER_01:Right. That's still because that's crazy. That's crazy.
SPEAKER_04:That is, that's crazy to be mad about. As the OP, like if I'm in La La Land, the day of, and I see this message come through, I'm blowing him up. Yeah. I'm like, why did you how come you didn't say you didn't want to go to begin with?
SPEAKER_00:Right. Why didn't you say anything? Right. Absolutely, absolutely. I'm not I'm not going. I'm not going to Reddit. I'm going to him or her or whoever it is. Right. I'm going to you. And I'm like, yo, why didn't you have a conversation with me? Why are you why why are you acting like an asshole right now? Uh-huh. Golly.
SPEAKER_03:I mean, I send you guys like stuff all the time, and sometimes it doesn't get response. Okay, guess they're not interested. It's whatever.
SPEAKER_04:Okay, so I just have a hard time being on my phone all the time. Like, I no, I know, you're not a social media person.
SPEAKER_03:I was off a lot this this past two weeks. Well, even before that, even before the like the baby, like you, you're just not a social media person. Like, that's just too important.
SPEAKER_02:Right.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I'm yeah, I've yeah.
SPEAKER_04:I used to be, and then I just kind of I'm gonna say I grew up.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, you grew up.
SPEAKER_04:I'm not I'm not saying it it's immature to be on social media, I'm not saying that either.
SPEAKER_00:No, it has a TS.
SPEAKER_03:It's just it's just not something you're interested in. It's fine. Like, I don't take offense to it. No, I know, I know.
SPEAKER_04:I just feel like hey, this is what's up. That's fair.
SPEAKER_03:That's fair. If I want to like directly tell you something or send you something, I send it to you directly. And and if you notice, if you send me a direct message, I respond. Yeah, he does it. Same with Jay. Jay is a little bit more social media active.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, a little bit.
SPEAKER_03:Mostly in like mostly in like the the the podcast chat.
SPEAKER_01:Yes.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Um, but if I want to send him something that I want him specifically to respond to, I send it to him shit. Send it to him specifically.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah. You you sidebar that because a lot of the times the conversation in the chat, I don't have time to keep up with it because I'm training, like, on the remote.
SPEAKER_04:Right. And then by the time I get I circle back to it, like you guys had a conversation four hours ago.
SPEAKER_00:Right. Me putting an in input four hours later is like like one day you need to do that. Like zero context, zero context, and just answer the answer that just give give this vague answer about something that we talked about like eight hours ago.
SPEAKER_02:Right, but that's my point.
SPEAKER_03:Like my point is like if you want a specific response, you have to send a specific like message.
SPEAKER_00:Correct.
SPEAKER_03:Right.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, but be be be direct with your messaging. So, but yeah, um no, good talk. Not the asshole, just so just so we're clear. Not even clear. Even with more context, not the asshole.
SPEAKER_04:Um the asshole. Right. Or I shouldn't say he, because we don't know.
SPEAKER_00:Well, yeah, they they are not the asshole. Um but you know what I think would have helped out? You know what I think would have helped out, helped both of them out? Because obviously, obviously, obviously, somebody had a hard time listening and paying attention to instruction, right? So I think what they should have did was taken a shot of Magic Mine! Ah, the wonderful little mental performance shot. Yeah, it's a wonderful little mental performance shot with a bunch of uh nootropics and uh adaptogens. Uh that they help with um with mental co mental clarity. Bleh words are hard today. Um they clear up your brain frog, they give you a sharper mind and get you into a flow state, get you really focused on the on the task at hand. Focus. Yeah, that's right. They get you, they get you to focus on a lot of things. And honestly, the OP needed his friend to focus on what he was saying, on what he was saying when he was like, hey, uh, you know, uh, maybe you should have said something like I wanna go instead of just bringing it up. Cause what the hell, man? You know what? Focus, bro, focus. Focus on the task at hand. But let it let it clear your mind. The ashwagonda will chill you out, so there's no need to be mad. But what I'm gonna do right now is take my shot for the day.
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SPEAKER_03:Sit a guy with a 24 heart rate.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, your pull your 24 pulse over there. Man's is comatose. Anyway, I believe we have a topic to get to. What is we talking about today? It could be butts. I like big butts, and I cannot lie.
SPEAKER_01:I cannot lie.
SPEAKER_00:And all the other brothers cannot deny, but what are we talking about? I think we're streaming. We're talking about streaming. What kind of streaming? Like like a like a river, like a like a river, like a stream?
SPEAKER_04:A river stream? Yes. Yes, to all these all those. What?
SPEAKER_00:So we what are we talking about? Like salmon?
SPEAKER_04:Uh yes. Oh, they swim upriver against the grind, and they are successful.
SPEAKER_00:And then they die. And then they get eaten by a grizzly bear. Is that the kind of streaming we're talking about? Mm-hmm. I don't that seems uninteresting. Yeah, I have a I have a hard time believing that because I feel like we just like capped out on that whole conversation just now. Like the salmon did with the grizzly bear. Did it? Did it? Anyway, streaming services, I think, is what we're talking about, like Netflix and and Disney and Hulu and uh ESPN and Paramount and Showtime and somebody hit me with a Gatorade because I'm tired. I need to replenish my electrolytes.
unknown:Too much.
SPEAKER_04:It's so much, man. Like, I don't even know where to begin this conversation at.
SPEAKER_00:Like well, well I really don't. Let's start here. We did mention on uh a couple of shows ago, maybe a couple shows, could have been last show. I don't know. But I did mention that like um Disney has absorbed Hulu and they spent a lot of money to do so.
SPEAKER_01:Right.
SPEAKER_00:Now with them absorbing Hulu, we kind of taught we kind of did touch on we touched on this a little bit. Would it be possible for a bigger um streaming platform like Netflix or um what other big ones we got? I mean, really the big ones are gonna be what? Like Netflix, Hulu, maybe Amazon, maybe Amazon Amazon's pretty big. So would it be possible for one of those bigger streaming platforms to absorb other things? Because it's crazy. Oh, 100%. For sure. And the reason why I bring that up is because I did just see a commercial for Spectrum. Uh uh, which cable is obviously just asinine, but with Spectrum, they showed like this huge list, and it was all the icons of all the streaming services that you get for free when you have Spectrum. And it's like it's almost all of them. Say for like Amazon. And I'm like, wait, what? Yes, yes, so you get wait, wait, wait, so say that say that again. So if you get Spectrum, if you get if you get cable through Spectrum, as long as you have cable through Spectrum, like almost every streaming service, Peacock, Paramount, um, Hulu, uh, Disney Plus, all of that, I I think say for like Netflix and and Amazon, you get for free. Because you sign in through your through your uh uh your Spectrum account. So you get all of that for free. So we're going back to cable. Are we going back to cable? Are you sure about that? Swear to God. Swear to God, because let me um what was what was what was the one that I tried to do? Um I think it was Paramount. Paramount Plus? Yeah, Paramount Plus.
SPEAKER_03:Like Spectrum assessments shit like every single day, like, hey, sign up with us. I'm like, no. Hey, sign up with us. Right.
SPEAKER_00:So see right here, see right here? Hang on, I'll see if I can get it to so right there, that's Paramount Connect provider. And they will give you a list of providers. And what do you see on that list? If I can get it to focus. It's right. Yeah, so so if you have Spectrum, like it showed like I shit you not, they showed a list underneath the Spectrum title at the end of this uh commercial, and they showed all the icons of the of the streaming apps that you get, and I know like Showtime is one of them and all that kind of stuff. So it's like everything that like what like what is happening?
SPEAKER_03:So this is I don't know if this is interesting or frustrating.
SPEAKER_04:And it I mean I find it interesting because we're going full circle here.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Like Jesus Christ, right?
SPEAKER_00:Like it hurts my head.
SPEAKER_03:I dropped my like ultra fiber, which is like$270 billion.
SPEAKER_04:Are you ready for this? Okay, go ahead. So this so here you go. So I'm on Spectrum's website right now, yep, okay, and I'm looking at their um their plan$100 a month for one year. That includes HBO Max, ESPN, yep, Disney Plus, yep, Paramount Plus, yep, Peacock, Fox One, AMC Plus, Vix, and then the Spectrum Spectrum app.
SPEAKER_00:There you go. So really all you're missing is like Netflix and Amazon. Like I said, say for like Netflix and Amazon, you're getting virtually everything else that's out there.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, and you're you're never going to get those on a subscription service ever because they're their own thing. They're they're their own thing. They're their own thing. Right, right, right.
SPEAKER_00:So at this point, it almost seems better to go back to cable.
SPEAKER_03:What the fuck? Is this 1998?
SPEAKER_00:Like, that's almost what it seems like. Yo, because I'm trying to think right now. I I okay, so I don't because I'm pretty sure you have to have their cable subscription, yes? Like you can't just have internet through that.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, I would assume, but like who watches? No, you're gonna no. So here's the way it works. If you because I've had spectrum before, you get spectrum, but they also give you a landline, right? They bundle it with a landline, and that's how you get your hundred dollars. Da da da da. Whatever's whatever, whatever. But here's the thing, though, because Paramount Plus is like$15 a month, Disney Plus is$15 a month.
SPEAKER_00:Disney Plus is yes, yes, and they're just raising their prices, right?
SPEAKER_04:Who loses another$15,$20 a month? Netflix is around that. Well, Netflix isn't on there, right, right, right, right. But you still have to pay for that if you're gonna get Netflix, right, right, right. So I'm just trying to figure out what all the because we have okay, we have another one of these things, but we don't pay for it. There you go.
SPEAKER_03:So I gotta be careful there. My point is if you're gonna like calculate like the total monthly cost, you have to include the things that aren't included in that, like right kind of shit.
SPEAKER_04:Right. But I'm what I'm trying to say though is like so the ones that the ones that are in it, let's say you did, let's say you yourself paid for HBO, ESPN, Hulu, Disney Plus, and Paramount. That's five, that's five streaming services, which is a very good likelihood. I'd probably say 70% of Americans probably have all five of those. Yes, all five of those.
SPEAKER_00:And just so we're clear, HBO Max is$20 almost$25 a month. That's is it really$25? I I pay for it. Yes. It's a it's like$24.99.
SPEAKER_04:Okay, so if you do HBO Max, Paramount Plus, that's$50 right there. And you're not adding ESPN, Hulu, Disney Plus, or Peacock. Which Disney each one of those, each one of those is about$15.
SPEAKER_00:It's about$15.
SPEAKER_04:$15 easy. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:So you're already almost paying what you'll be paying for Spectrum.
SPEAKER_04:Right. And everything will be in one one in one spot.
SPEAKER_00:What are we doing? Why are we running in circles? You're getting your local channels so you don't have to fucking So you don't have to worry about the the local the local sports and all that.
SPEAKER_04:You get all that shit.
SPEAKER_00:What's happening? What right now? With the amount of.
SPEAKER_04:Got plenty. But the amount of streaming services that I pay for, if you take out the ones that aren't on here, I'm getting close to$100 a month. Yeah. I'm getting very close.
SPEAKER_00:No, I know, like, cause because did it have AMC and like Showtime on there? Like for streaming?
SPEAKER_04:AMC, Fox One, okay, and Vic.
SPEAKER_00:So I know I know at least AMC is like$7.99. They start at$7.99 for the AMC straight streaming server.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, AMC is lower because they don't do movies and shit like that.
SPEAKER_00:Exactly. So so but still, just to have it, I mean, you know what I mean? Like the first one's free. Right. Right. So what's happening?
SPEAKER_01:What's going on?
SPEAKER_00:Like, was it wasn't streaming supposed to be like to get people away from cable? Like, what wasn't that the whole point of a streaming service?
SPEAKER_04:But now, but but here's the thing though, and here's here's where the argument could lie. All those streaming services probably have a contract with Spectrum.
SPEAKER_02:Yes.
SPEAKER_04:And at any given moment, like once that contract is up, they can be like, Yeah, we're not gonna renew it, and you're gonna lose that.
SPEAKER_00:So, so again, you have to know who owns Spectrum. Because if it's Comcast, guess who owns Comcast?
SPEAKER_03:It's Comcast. Disney.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, it is, it is it? Disney. No, it is Comcast. That's why I never went to Spectrum. Yes. So because they have like notoriously horrible customer service.
SPEAKER_00:Right. So with that being said, if Disney's absorbing Hulu, who's to say Disney doesn't absorb every everything else? They can they could and they would and they will eventually. I think they I think that's their plan, right? I think their game plan is to listen, just go through and start absorbing everybody. Disney has the money to do it, number one.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, billions and billions and billions and billions. Right.
SPEAKER_04:But I don't I think that would be an issue. I think. I mean that because a monopoly, and I don't know if they would be allowed to do that.
SPEAKER_00:I'm sure there are some loopholes that Disney will find, that Disney lawyers will find.
SPEAKER_03:What do you say, Doubleton? Microsoft had the same issue. With um the monopoly thing.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Yes. And they're like, oh well, you gotta split your company into three different factions. Like, okay, we'll just make triple the amount of money.
SPEAKER_00:Exactly. It's like, oh, oh no, more money in my pocket. Like, that doesn't sound like a punishment. Right. You have to split this company up. You can't just be one umbrella. Oh, okay, thanks. Cool. Neat. I'll just make money on multiple fronts. What? What? How did you help the bad guy? That's not what we meant. Come back here. How did you help the bad guy?
SPEAKER_03:100% help the bad guy. Yeah, how did you help the bad guy? I mean, the only reason Bill Gates isn't like the number one most wealthiest person in the world is because he donates like a very significant amount of his money to charity. Right. Other than that, like Jeff Bezos will be like, please, Mr. Gates, sir, I want some more.
SPEAKER_00:Help me on paw. How is that? Yeah. Please, Mr. Gates, I want some more. So anyway, um, streaming services. Like, are okay, so if Spectrum is gonna like start to you know toting them all around with them, like I don't like it.
SPEAKER_03:Crazy. I don't like it. Because here's the thing.
SPEAKER_00:The$100 for the first year, obviously, that's that's gonna get jacked way the fuck up after the first year.
SPEAKER_04:Exactly. It does.
SPEAKER_00:It goes up to like it's very it's very expensive. It's like damn near$400 a month.
SPEAKER_04:It goes up to like three something.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, it's damn near$400 a month.
SPEAKER_04:So now I stand corrected. It does not go that high.
SPEAKER_00:Really?
SPEAKER_04:It goes to$120.
SPEAKER_00:Okay. Oh, that's that's different. Now, is that basic? Yeah, that's different.
SPEAKER_04:Is that basic or the highest dollar ISP. So, okay, so here's the thing. What you're not realizing is you gotta pay for the boxes.
SPEAKER_00:Right. You gotta pay for all the material, the boxes, remotes, all that kind of stuff. You gotta pay for it. Yeah, you gotta pay the equipment.
SPEAKER_04:Like in mom's case, she's got every room has a TV, every room has a box, every room has DVR. Those are all up charges.
SPEAKER_00:You gotta count how many boxes you got, yeah. So for you guys, it may not actually, it would probably wouldn't even be that bad if you got one for the living room and in your room, and that's it.
SPEAKER_05:Right, right, right, right.
SPEAKER_00:You might actually save money, to be quite honest.
SPEAKER_04:So I don't know because I'm like I said, I'm I'm not quite there with the um with the um well which ones I'm not paying for. Right.
SPEAKER_00:I'm not I'm what I would do, what I would do is sit down and and and write out everything that you're that you're paying and see and see what it comes out to.
SPEAKER_04:See where it falls, right?
SPEAKER_00:Yep, see where it falls.
SPEAKER_03:Everything that you're paying versus like how much you're using it.
SPEAKER_00:Right. Yeah, right too. Right? Because I wanna what I want to continue to watch Twisted Metal. It's a great show. I want to continue to watch that. Apple Apple TV, I love Monarch. I love what they're doing with the gut with the Godzilla franchise. Do I have it right now? No, I canceled my subscription after season one ended. So when season two comes back, guess what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna pick I'm gonna pick it up. I'm gonna pick it right back up. You know what I mean? So it's like it is tough because it's like, okay, I don't use it much, but if I have it, will I use it?
SPEAKER_03:Yes. But the thing you have to think about is they know that.
SPEAKER_00:That's the shitty.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, yeah, they do. Yeah, that's the shitty.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, they do.
SPEAKER_00:It's like they know that they have you, they have you in the palm of their hand. I know you like some show on here. You will come back, yeah. You will come back to us. It's like fuck you guys.
SPEAKER_04:And they just and they just waiting too, bro. They just waiting. Exactly.
SPEAKER_00:So so I get I guess the question will then be I mean, is that why that's why I'm asking, like, what are we doing? Why are we going in circles? Is that why streaming is getting so expensive? For sure. Because I can.
SPEAKER_04:The only people we have to blame, and I've said this before, is ourselves. Exactly. That's it. Where else are you gonna go?
SPEAKER_03:Consumers. Because if you want to watch the West Wing, what other option do you have besides streaming? So Sopranos, where are you gonna go?
SPEAKER_01:HBL Max.
SPEAKER_03:Breaking Bad, where are you gonna go?
SPEAKER_04:AMC Plus or AMC, whatever.
SPEAKER_03:But that's it's it's streaming. Can you see my point?
SPEAKER_00:Like, I'm picking up what you're laying down, bro. It's just it's interesting. When I seen that, I was like, you know, I'm kind of glad we're talking about it now because what the fuck? I never realized that. I didn't know I didn't know I didn't know until I seen that commercial. I seen that commercial, and like almost every icon popped up underneath it. I was like, no fucking way. And when I looked into it, I was like, you get all those for free. What get what the fuck am I paying for?
SPEAKER_03:Right, right. You know who should be really, really pissed about all that what's that? Blockbuster.
SPEAKER_04:Oh yeah. Yeah, because like they they see like we're repeating history again almost like if people start going back to back to the cable. And here's the thing, I'm gonna tell you right now I could see people picking up the cable box again, and this is why someone broke down how much you would have to spend this year to watch every NFL game because they are spread across Amazon, Netflix, um Paramount, ESPN, Paramount Paramount, like so many, so many things. They are spread across now. Now keep in mind if you have cable, you'll get your local, and and Paramount, Paramount is where you get your locals at. Um but they they they val they tallied it up, and I want to say it was like six-seven hundred dollars um to watch every game and not miss one. So the other weekend I couldn't get the the Bengals game. I remember that. You were mad for whatever for whatever reason, for whatever reason, it said it wasn't considered an in-network game.
SPEAKER_00:Yep.
SPEAKER_04:They were playing in what were they in Jacksonville?
SPEAKER_00:Yes, I think they were.
SPEAKER_04:Or did Jacksonville come here?
SPEAKER_00:No, they came here, yeah. They came here.
SPEAKER_04:Who they play first? Cleveland. They went to Cleveland, that's what it was. They went to Cleveland. Um, and they said that the Steelers game was considered the in-network game, which is fucking crazy because I can spit in the Ohio River. I can I can walk, I can walk to the Cincinnati fucking stadium and touch it right now. Like, but we're not in network. But we're not in network. What? Come again. I don't get it. I was dumbfounded.
SPEAKER_00:No, I can't. All his flabbers were gasted.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, they were. So I was I was going through like I was stressed and I was thumbing through everything I could possibly thumb through, and everything kept telling me you have to buy a live TV scription. And I'm like, I don't have that. And then I got to fucking around with NFL Sunday ticket, and I seen free trial. And I was like, oh, did you take the free trial? I said, Yeah, fuck you. I'm gonna do this free trial. Fucking started putting all this information in free trial. Woo-hoo, yeah, I'm gonna be able to watch this. I'll get a week's worth of of sun of uh Sunday night or Sunday ticket. You get to the end, and it like and it said, like, after the trial, well, okay. I read it as after the trial, how do you want to pay it? Do you want to pay monthly? Do you want to play one lump sum? And the one lump sum was like 600 bucks, 500 bucks, whatever. I don't remember. I don't remember. I don't even think it was that much. It may have been like 400 bucks. And I was like, I'll pay monthly, which was like 35 bucks. So add that to what I'm paying right now, and I'm up to$100. Should have just got fucking Spectrum. So I fucking sent away. Next thing I know, my truck, my phone goes off. I got charged$35. I'm like, what? Apparently I had already done the free subscription with my email and I didn't catch it. So they were charged. So I'm like, wait, wait, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Cancel, cancel, cancel. They said, well, cancel it.
SPEAKER_00:Nope.
SPEAKER_04:You can't, there's nowhere to like, I'm done. Get me out of this. No, you're fucking stuck. They don't even give you a fucking phone number, bro. That's crazy. Yeah, it's very hard to get a hold of them. I said, You've got to be fucking kidding me. And I looked into it, and then I was like, fuck, what am I gonna do? I'm just gonna pay$35 extra each month. I didn't want to. So then I'm talking to our buddy Pat, and I'm like, Pat, I accidentally signed up for NFL Sunday ticket. You want the uh information? You split it with me? He's like, sure. So he split it with me. Okay, so he sent me$160,$70, so then I turned around and just spent the whole lump sum. Okay. Jade it off, so I wouldn't have to pay the$35. So now you have a year. Yes, I got it for you for this year. I got fucked, long story short, got fucked worldly. And here's the kicker. Ready for this one? Remember for this one? After signing up for it, guess what game I could not watch after fucking getting it? The Bengals game. The fucking Bengals game.
SPEAKER_00:I swear to God. Bro, I remember that weekend because you were you were so busy. I told you go to FUBO.
SPEAKER_04:I I I had to call a phone number. I told you.
SPEAKER_00:I told you. I said, go to FUBO. Go to FUBO because they had the same thing. They had a free trial. I did, I did that because I wanted to watch it while we were gaming.
SPEAKER_04:I think I burned it when I I burned Fubo already.
SPEAKER_00:Listen, listen, that's why I have like three different uh uh uh uh uh emails for stuff like that, just in case, just in case I'm like, I gotta I gotta use a second one. I'm pretty confident I burned through all three of mine. That's crazy. That's crazy work. I don't know why you would even do that.
SPEAKER_04:I've even created other emails to fucking get other descriptions.
SPEAKER_00:Burner accounts, burner accounts just to get free.
SPEAKER_04:Did you know Yahoo tells you you have too many email accounts?
SPEAKER_00:I did not know that, but but I got I gotta assume that's that's like that's experience talking because Yahoo probably reached out to you and said, You gotta stop doing it, you gotta stop this. You need you need to be stopped. Oh my god, poor Yeti. Uh but no, it's just because streaming, it's getting ridiculous, it's getting out of control. That that there are so many. I I think we talked about it maybe like season one, long time ago, about having too many options, right? Like you we now have way too many options to where you're you're paying for it, number one, and number two, a lot of them like cycle movies amongst each other. Like they'll they'll they'll have this movie will be on Hulu and then they'll get taken off of Hulu, but they'll show up on Paramount. Then I'll get taken off of Paramount and go show up somewhere else, and then it'll get taken off of this and go to Netflix. And it's like, are they just interchanging movies? Like, aren't y'all supposed to you know what I mean? Like y'all supposed to have your specials.
SPEAKER_04:It all falls into contracts, right? Certain certain movie uh distributions have contracts with these people, like for example, um John Wick. Yep. Okay, John Wick, if I'm not mistaken, is on HBO. Yes, yes, it is, yes, it is. Yes, it is.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, the spin-off ballerina, it that I think that's also on there. It's on something because I've got it.
SPEAKER_04:It's on stars. You sure? Yep, it's on stars. At least I'm gonna be.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, that could have been that could have been that could have been Amazon that I was looking at.
SPEAKER_04:And again, it's gonna be on Amazon because you can buy it.
SPEAKER_00:Right.
SPEAKER_04:I think Amazon's gonna have Amazon's is gonna be the most popular site to go to because they're gonna have everything, but you just have to buy it. But if you're looking to stream it and not pay any extra money, you have to have stars.
SPEAKER_00:Which is and and that's where I'm like it's crazy, yes, because it's like, why, why do we need this many fucking streaming services?
SPEAKER_03:Right.
SPEAKER_00:What what what's the point?
SPEAKER_04:Money, money, money, money, money, yes, yes, yes, yes, for them, yes, it's money, but it's like can you say it louder for the people in the back? Money! Thank you.
SPEAKER_00:No, wait, wait, wait, wait, you're doing it wrong. Yeah, show me the money! It's it's it's just it's it's wild that we we we we got to that point, number one. Uh that that they got us to the point where it's like, you now have to watch this, you have to sign up for that, uh for you to watch this, and and got us all over the goddamn place. And now all of a sudden, Spectrum is like, hey, what if we uh were to have like almost every streaming service attached to our cable? Let's bring them back to cable. Come on, let's bring them back to cable. Like, what the hell? And here's the problem: it's gonna work. It's gonna work.
SPEAKER_04:I mean, because look there's people there could be people listening to this podcast that didn't know that was even an option. Exactly. And like I said, I named off five. Yeah, there's still five more that I didn't list that are that are kind of popular, they're not overly popular, but they're on the bottom down there, right? You can see them, right? Like that pays for itself right there in itself.
SPEAKER_00:Exactly. So if all you needed, because here most people are only going to need their basic cable. Just give me give me my local channels, and the rest of it is streaming. Are you fucking kidding me?
SPEAKER_04:I'm pretty sure. Yeah, so there is there's a TV stream which you're able to stream on the on the app, which is 40 bucks a month, but that doesn't give you everything.
SPEAKER_00:The cheapest option is the hundred dollar for a year, which uh again, in the in the long run, because especially if people have, once again, if they have everything you just listed off, plus the other five, right? Let's just for argument's sake, they've got everything that Spectrum is offering, plus Apple TV, plus Netflix, plus Amazon, plus uh uh Crunchyroll or anything like that, right?
SPEAKER_04:I got a Crunchyroll, I got Crunch Roll, Netflix, Amazon. And what else did you say? I'm trying I'm looking at what I looked through on my Roku.
SPEAKER_00:I'm already drawing a blank. Um obviously they don't have Netflix, they don't have Crunchyroll, they don't have Amazon. Um they don't have three.
SPEAKER_04:They have Hulu, they got Disney, HBO, they got Paramount and and they they got they got all that stuff.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, Apple TV. Apple TV. They don't have Apple TV because Apple TV is a very good thing.
SPEAKER_04:I don't consider Apple TV being dominant.
SPEAKER_00:Again, it's a smaller streaming service, but some people like it because there are some shows on there. Again, I enjoyed Monarch. I don't I I canceled it. Like I said, I canceled it the moment season one ended, but when season two comes out, I will pick it back up. But there are other shows on there that people might like. Now, have you been on Hulu?
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, I have Hulu. Okay, have you noticed that Hulu is advertising Apple TV shows? So, once again, there's a chance that Apple TV may complain.
SPEAKER_00:What did I just say? Because Disney now it they absorbed Hulu, so I don't I don't see it being far fetched.
SPEAKER_04:That won't happen. Wait, that's why not why not?
SPEAKER_00:Why can't it why can't it happen?
SPEAKER_04:No, okay, my bad. I'm I'm I'm combining and mixing up stuff. I was thinking Samsung and and Apple. I don't know why. That's weird.
SPEAKER_00:That's weird.
SPEAKER_04:No, no, no. Yeah, it is weird. I was thinking, I was thinking at the streaming is Samsung, because I have a Samsung Samsung TV. So I was thinking really yeah, I think anyway, that's how I got there. Yeah, okay. But okay, yes, Hulu could pick up Apple. I could see that. Well, they're already fucking advertising, which is crazy if you ask me.
SPEAKER_00:I'm I'm just saying because if Disney absorbs Hulu, then Hulu is now a part of Disney, which means if Hulu decides to absorb Apple TV, Apple TV then becomes part of guess what? Disney. So Disney's trying to own everything, and that's why I was saying is it far-fetched, especially with Comcast. Is Spectrum with that and they're offering all of this? I have a feeling Disney's trying to own it all. Like that's what they want to do. Trying to somehow compete with Netflix. Or something. Because here's the thing uh their biggest competitors right now, if they decide to do all of that, is gonna be Netflix and Amazon. Those are gonna be their two big competitors. Yeah, I don't know. Everybody else is small.
SPEAKER_03:I would like to know biggest free. Well no, Cobra's the biggest for sure. Their biggest grocery store, blah, blah, blah. Right.
SPEAKER_00:So it's like it's like Tubi's free. So we still have that, and you know, they advertise all the time that Tubi will always be free. Now, will they go back on their word like Netflix did with the password sharing? Maybe. We'll have to wait.
SPEAKER_04:Here it is. So Netflix is number one with over 301 million sub subscribers. Yep. Amazon is number two, which sh is shocking to me. Kinda. I didn't think it would be Amazon. I thought it would be probably Disney Plus. But it has the second largest with 200 million subscribers. Oh wow. And then third is Disney, and then Max is fourth, and then fifth is Paramount. Huh. So yeah. So if you were to get cable, you get what 60%?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, you get a lot of that list. You get 60% of that list? Yeah, you get a lot of that list. 65% of that list. And and again, uh uh to what I was bringing up earlier, like bro, people went to streaming to get away from cable because cable prices were getting ridiculous. But now, but now cable is I think it feel it feels like at least Spectrum. I don't know about other cable companies, uh services, I don't know what else is out there, but are they doing the same thing, or is this just a spectrum thing? Is Spectrum the only one uh offering all of this, this entire bundle type deal? Because it's like it seems like again Disney Comcast wants to own everything. And if they get their way and they do it, it it it does almost seem they're trying to be consumer friendly at this point, which would be nice. Because again, if I if I have all of that with basic cable and now I only have to spend$15.99 for Netflix, right?
SPEAKER_04:So I just I I look I I just looked to see if cable was dying because I'm very curious to see if it they see what they say, and they said that it it really is. They said that in 2024 they lost record number of subscribers, because the prices were getting ridiculous, and that's why everybody went to streaming.
SPEAKER_00:But now all of a sudden, Spectrum is suddenly like, hey, look at all the streaming services you get for free if you sign up with us. Whoa, what that like that's a that's a big brain move, if you ask me, because it's like again, you don't you don't want the premium channels, fine. Here's the here's the here's the basic uh uh package we offer. It's only a hundred dollars, it'll go up twenty bucks after the first year, and you get but you get all these streaming channels for free. You can watch all the movies and all the all the all the specials that they have, the the the the exclusives for for Paramount and Hulu and Disney and all that kind of stuff. You get that for free. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. We got you, bro. We got you.
SPEAKER_04:I mean, it's from a business mind, I mean, that's pretty dope. I mean, I'm just curious if like people if people were to catch on with that.
SPEAKER_00:I don't know. Again, like you said, there are probably some people listening to this that will listen to this episode and say, I had no idea that was a thing. And they'll look into it and be like, hmm, you know, right.
SPEAKER_04:I do pay you right now, if if I got if I got if I got those streaming services, like I said, if you'd have to have at least five of the ten for it to offset because we're saying each one's about 15 bucks. And you said HBO.
SPEAKER_00:Uh let me let me not mince um.
SPEAKER_04:See, and I and actually I think Netflix is even up and around 20.
SPEAKER_00:It I think I'm pretty sure it is. Because I think I I think I s I think I pay about$21 every month. Yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_04:So here's the thing. So it's$17.99 a month.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, see, so so close to$20. Yeah. Which is, I mean, again, it's not awful, but oh no, no, no, no.
SPEAKER_04:It's no, it breaks. No, no, no. I I apologize. It's over. It's$24.99 a month.
SPEAKER_00:So there's so they're the one that's adds. Okay, that yes, that they're the ones that's$24.99. HBO Max is$20.99. HBO Max is$2099 a month.
SPEAKER_04:Okay. So hold on, let me get a pen. Let's break this down because I'm curious now. Here we go. So you go. So we got HBO, we got Netflix.
SPEAKER_00:Uh let me go, let me go over to Disney Plus. Let me go Peacock then. Yeah, go to go to Peacock, see how much that is. Because I'm telling you, like, you're already at$40. I'm aware. You know what I'm saying? You're all you're already you're already almost there.
SPEAKER_04:Okay, so now are we going cheap or are we going all we're going without ads?
SPEAKER_00:We're going without ads. Because most people are gonna go without ads. Right? Nobody likes ads.
SPEAKER_04:I would I would agree.
SPEAKER_00:And which one are you looking up? I'm looking up um Disney Plus.
SPEAKER_04:Let me look up Paramount real quick.
SPEAKER_00:Come on, man. Come on, man. Sorry, sorry, listeners. We're we're doing stuff right now. We're trying to help you save money. Okay, so I have the Disney Hulu bundle, which is$19.99 a month, so$2117.
SPEAKER_04:Wait, hold on, but well, what does that come with?
SPEAKER_00:That that comes with Disney that's Disney Plus and Hulu.
SPEAKER_04:Okay, and Hulu.
SPEAKER_00:And Hulu. That's without ads. And what is that? Uh-da-da-da-da-da. That is$19.99 a month. That's no ads on Disney Plus and no ads on Hulu.
SPEAKER_04:Okay, and no ads is$12.99 on Paramount. Okay. So those are the big five, right? We agree, those are the big five. As as far as I know, yes. Alright. Okay, so$21 uh$21,$45, uh, 45, 56. Uh 56, 76. That's 99 fucking dollars.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, wait, hang on, wait, hang on, wait, hang on. Wait, wait, wait. What else did you what else do you get with that? You get ESPN plus, right? Yeah, ESPN with it? ESPN Plus unlimited by itself,$29.99. You're over$100. You're over. If you did your math right, you're already over$100 with just six of those.
SPEAKER_04:And and the six, and those are the six main ones.
SPEAKER_00:Those are the six main ones that a lot of people are gonna get.
SPEAKER_04:Yes. Hold on, let me let me double check my math here. Because I don't want to be like, yeah, it's definitely over 100 bucks.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, check, check your math. But if you did your math right, you're already spending over$100 with just six streaming services. Again, that's not including Apple. So it's$89.95. So I was off by$10. Pretty, pretty damn close. You're you're you're right there. And that and that's that that doesn't include Apple, that doesn't include Netflix. Well, we did we did the big five, but that doesn't include Apple, that doesn't include um um Amazon. Because Amazon is literally like because Amazon, it depends on what what what you pay for that. Like if you're paying yearly, that's a hundred and like thirty dollars in itself.
SPEAKER_05:Right, right.
SPEAKER_00:To get the Amazon Prime and all that kind of stuff, that's$130 in itself. So you are well over$100 on these streaming services.
SPEAKER_04:That's so yeah, so that that pays for itself.
SPEAKER_00:It pays for itself.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, that's why I said at the and then you don't have to stress about local games and local news. That's the kicker.
SPEAKER_00:That's what most of the uh for most people, especially like like us here in the in the podcast. Uh, most people all they want is a bait is the basic channels because they're like uh uh uh uh you know we get all these movie channels that nobody really watches. I mean, you get you have all these streaming chat services that you don't really utilize to its full potential, and and you feel like you're wasting that money, and now here Spectrum is and they're like, hey, guess what? We're gonna offer all those that you feel like you're wasting money on, and we're gonna give it to you free of charge, bro. No ads, nothing. That's insane.
SPEAKER_01:That's crazy. That's crazy. That's crazy.
SPEAKER_00:Again, are we running in circles? Is it like a is it like a is it like a trend? They they come and go. I don't know. But again, I don't know if this is just a spectrum only thing. I don't know what other cable companies are out there. That's definitely something to look into and and find out if cable's trying to fight back, trying to maybe it's a last hoorah from a from especially from from a cable company, you know, because and here's the thing that fucking that that premium select, whatever fucking bundle that is for a hundred bucks, you're getting all the all the stations you're gonna want.
SPEAKER_04:I'm gonna tell you that right now. Yes, you're getting your hallmarks, your game show, your your your your cartoon network, yep, your your MTV, your BET, your that you will probably all that stuff that you will probably wind up watching more of than the streaming services that are coming for coming with it for free. More easy and more accessible.
SPEAKER_00:Buddy, like I said, are is is is did a cable company finally figure out a salesman?
SPEAKER_04:And I feel like I could fucking sell some motherfuckers on this shit.
SPEAKER_00:I could pitch that to some to some people and be like, bro, does that not sound better?
SPEAKER_04:You start the conversation. You got you got HBO? You got well, Netflix isn't on there.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, Netflix. Netflix isn't on there.
SPEAKER_04:Netflix isn't part of it. Yeah, that's right. Oh, so we gotta take out 25.
SPEAKER_00:That's right.
SPEAKER_04:So we do gotta take out 25. So then you're down to like 60 bucks. But still, at the end of the day. Well, no, no. You gotta add ESPN back into it because you have to keep ESPN. So it's because it's 2499 and 2099. So it's up to it's what did I say it was 80?
SPEAKER_00:80, 80 something. Yeah, 80, 80 something. 80 something. So it's 80 bucks. 80 bucks.
SPEAKER_04:So you got ESPN, you got HBO, Peacock? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You got it all? What if I give you all that? Plus, I'll give you cable for free.
SPEAKER_00:And you'll get and you'll get like five more freaking uh uh streaming services all for free. Right. Yeah. I'm sorry. If if somebody told me that, hey, just just for$100,$100, and you'll get that, you'll get you'll get your your local channels, and you'll get a bunch of streaming services all for free.
SPEAKER_04:Right. And you don't have to pay it, you don't have to pay random payments throughout the month. It's one payment, one place.
SPEAKER_00:Sign me up. Sign me up, brother. Because I'll tell you what, I I be hating that shit when I'm when I'm just like sitting there one day and it's like uh HBO Max Dun came out. Fuck, I forgot that came out, and then like three days later, Netflix came out. Motherfucker. Right, right, right.
SPEAKER_04:And I so I pay for Hulu, and Hulu does a thing where like so I get to know ads, yep, and that's a premium charge. They don't uh they don't up the the the amount of the service, so they they charge me for whatever, and then see I need now you get you do the bundle, right?
SPEAKER_00:Yes, I have the Disney Plus Hulu bundle, which is I I thought I said 1999, right?
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, I think so.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, so and then and that's with no ads. Now, if you got ads, it's only 1099.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, I'm I'm I'm doing it with without without see now. I may have to see, I I think I'm overpaying a little bit right there because I think I pay for Disney as well.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, well, get the bundle, bro. What are you doing? What what what the fuck are you doing? Why are you paying for them separately? Literally, Hulu just got absorbed by bro. If you don't get that bundle, I think I do do that I do I do do that.
SPEAKER_04:I do do do that. I do do do that.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, if you don't get that bundle, I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna punch you. I'm gonna kick you in your shin. Like cancel Hulu and then just go to Disney and change your change your uh uh uh your your package. Wait a minute. What? He's thinking. No. Yes.
SPEAKER_04:I think I do pay for the bundle.
SPEAKER_00:Do you really? I think Disney Plus Hulu ESPN select bundle pre- Yeah, you got all three. I think I'm double paying.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, buddy. Cancel Hulu. What are you doing? I'm almost positive, bro. Oh, cancel Hulu, bro.
SPEAKER_00:If you already have the Disney Plus bundle, cancel Hulu. You already have Hulu.
SPEAKER_04:This is wild. If this comes out to be this, I'm gonna fucking be like, what?
SPEAKER_00:You just you just saved yourself some money. I don't know my password. Oh, that's great. That's awesome. Templeton, are you there? I thought I heard him agree with something just a minute ago. Motherfucker. I fucking paid a fucking bundle. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:And it's$26.99 a month for for that bundle.
SPEAKER_00:Okay. Yeah, I used to have I I think I used to have, I think I changed it because I was like, I don't use the SPM plus enough.
SPEAKER_04:If I fucking go to fucking Hulu right now, and it shows you're paying like$10.99 a month.
SPEAKER_00:I'm gonna lose my fucking been paying Hulu for nothing. Double paying.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, they're not gonna tell you about it. Okay, so it takes okay.
SPEAKER_04:I I gotta figure this out. Because it takes me to Disney to sign in.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, so maybe you're not paying, maybe you're not paying for it. Maybe you're not double paying. Which, I mean, that's a good thing, but um, regardless, uh this is why we want to have this discussion, because we I know we talked about it before and how streaming services it's just getting tiring to have you know keep track of everything that you're paying for and everything that you're using, and it's just Jesus Christ. Like again, we spoke about it years ago about how having too many options can also be a bad thing. Yes, it's good, variety is a spice of life, right? But sometimes too much variety can be an issue because you don't know where to start, don't know where to end, that's for damn sure. So, hey, if you didn't know the spectrum is offering all of that, now you know. And no, this isn't a paid promotion. Though it sounds like it. Yeah, it might sound like it, but you know, I'm just I'm just trying to look at every aspect of like, you know, saving money, especially in this expensive ass world we live in. And if it will benefit you, if it benefits you, go for it. Or let's say look into it, because that I I don't know. I gotta assume, like the rest of us, you're tired of chasing uh uh these goddamn streaming services. And and like like Yeti said, you only pay it in one place, right? Spectrum's the only place you gotta pay at that point. Instead of paying Netflix, Hulu, uh, HBO Max, and ESPM Plus, and and and and uh uh all of the other stuff. It you don't want to do that. Just keep it in one spot. Yeah. Hey, what's that? Sounds like hey, is he cutting wood? Is he sawing? I think we are or is he pretending he's a race car? Anyway, it is getting it is getting kind of late and we are running we are running over time, and I know we want to get some borderlands in. So um in conclusion, in conclusion. Did you say borderlands? I did say borderlands. In conclusion, if if you are tired of chasing all of all of those streaming services, look into the spectrum deal. If not, stick with what you got, stick with what you know. Here's what I know. I like I like having the option for Spectrum, right? Like having to be able to like sign into a lot of things. Especially, especially like when I learned about that, I was super pissed off that I spent a hundred dollars on Peacock accidentally.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, that's crazy.
SPEAKER_00:Fuck that shit. Fuck Roku for that. Fuck you for that. Anyway, um, do with do with that information what you will. Uh again, not a paid, not a paid promotion, but um we'll try to wrap this up since uh Templeton is tired.
SPEAKER_05:Wait, hang on, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Aww, he's all tuckered out.
SPEAKER_00:How to put that in there. So um good talk though. Good talk and and very insightful, wasn't it? It was. It was. So who wants some fun and games?
SPEAKER_05:Let's do it.
SPEAKER_00:Whoa.
SPEAKER_04:I heard that.
SPEAKER_00:That's wild.
SPEAKER_04:Hang on, Templeton. Are you sleeping?
SPEAKER_00:Nope.
SPEAKER_04:Bro, I thought he answered sleeping. Were you sleeping at any point, Templeton? Yes. Bro, I swear to God. I thought you answered him while you were sleeping. Like your subconscious could hear us, and you were just like, yeah. I was like, that is fucking awesome. And I want that super ability. That super that superhuman ability.
SPEAKER_00:That's a superpower. That is a superpower. Anyway, um, fun and games. Who wants a fun and games? Me. So I'm gonna ask I'm gonna I'm gonna ask you, who do you feel out of these three that I'm going to give you is the best duo in gaming history? Are you ready? Yeah, Sonic and Tails, Donkey Kong and Diddy Kong, or Mario and Luigi. One more time. Best duo in gaming. Sonic and Tails, Donkey Kong and Diddy Kong, or Mario and Luigi. Oh, it's Mario and Luigi. Yep. Now is that just that just like because of nostalgic there or just because like they're the OGs?
SPEAKER_04:I I think they're just more popular. I think if you go anywhere, more people are gonna know Mario and Luigi. That's fair. Um I think second would be Sonic and Tails.
SPEAKER_00:Okay.
SPEAKER_04:And I think third would be Donkey Kong and Diddy Kong. And the reason I'm saying them last is because I think you will lose people with Diddy Kong. Not Donkey Kong, but Diddy Kong.
SPEAKER_01:Okay. Okay. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:How do you feel about that, Doubleton? How do you feel about how he how he put that list? Yeah, good talk.
SPEAKER_01:Doubleton?
SPEAKER_00:He was just there.
SPEAKER_01:I don't know. He was Dembleton! Brother!
SPEAKER_00:I don't know. I don't know. He was just there. I'm aware. I'm aware. He was a back backup vocal from what I said he has. It's like it's like a fever dream. It's like it's like it's like he comes and he goes. Was he really there? I don't know if he was. Bro, I don't know. But um what I'm gonna say is for me personally, I would probably say I'm gonna say Sonic and Tails. Mario and Luigi and then Donkey Kong and Diddy Kong. That's that's how I would put it. I would say Sonic and Tails. I think I think Sonic for me personally, I think Sonic is underrated. Underrated as hell. And I think there are a lot more Sonic fans than you realize are out there.
SPEAKER_04:No, I'm I I I know there's a lot of Sonic fans.
SPEAKER_00:No, there are more than you realize.
SPEAKER_04:Okay. So I also think how I said you lose people with Diddy, I think you oh Diddy.
SPEAKER_01:Wait, wait, wait.
SPEAKER_04:For the joke. So I now I realize what I'm saying. Yeah. So I think you lose people with Diddy Comitsu. Okay. Okay. Okay. I also feel you will also lose with tails. Ah. Agreed. Eh, I don't know. Tails. People know Sonic.
SPEAKER_00:They know Tails too Sonic. They could they know Tails too.
SPEAKER_04:The the fans do, but the average person who doesn't game, who doesn't watch movies will be like, if I say these, if I say Mario Luigi, Sonic and Tails, Donkey Kong and Diddy Kong, who sticks out the most I think you're gonna get a majority to say Mario and Luigi.
SPEAKER_03:I gotta agree with Yeti here on this one, and and here's my reason. So you guys grew up like brothers, you got a sibl another sibling and stuff like that, but I was like, it was just me. I had no siblings in my household growing up. There was nobody to play with.
SPEAKER_05:Right.
SPEAKER_03:So Mario Louis Mario and Luigi, like by far.
SPEAKER_00:Okay. Okay. I don't know. For me, I just I like I said, I just feel like Sonic and Tails are underrated. They don't get the love they deserve. I don't, at least for me, I don't think they do. And I think there are a lot more Sonic and Tails fans than we than we care to even uh realize. I think that it's just been I don't think they've been done justice as up until uh the movie came out. That's that's that's what I that's how I personally feel. I personally feel like once the movie came out and they did Sonic some justice, which I'm so glad, I am so glad that they listened to the people made the changes that they did with Sonic instead of having that humanoid hedgehog, whatever the fuck that mess was, and actually made Sonic look like Sonic and and and continued on and making their uh uh uh counterparts, their live-action counterparts, look almost identical to their game counterparts. I think that did them justice, and that's why you you are seeing the success that we have now. Because that's why I said I think there's a lot more Sonic and Tails fans. I think you'd be surprised at how many people would recognize Sonic and Tails. Now, if you were to say, like, Sonic and Miles, right? Would that be a problem for you? Would you would you be like, oh, well, I don't know who Miles is.
SPEAKER_04:I see I don't even know who Miles is, to be honest.
SPEAKER_00:It's Tails, it's his first name. His name is literally Miles Tails Prower.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, see, I never knew that at all.
SPEAKER_00:See? Exactly. Not and and that's where that's where I'm saying, I think there are more people that are that are Sonic and Tails fans than we than we care to realize. The problem was Sega never got a whole lot of um a whole lot of love, which is why we now have a ton. I want to say we probably have the same amount of Sonic games that we do as we do Mario games. I I'm I'm willing to bet.
SPEAKER_04:Okay, so I I've got it. Okay, okay. We I feel like there is a way to measure who's known or who's more popular.
SPEAKER_00:A yardstick.
SPEAKER_04:No. Both have movies that came out in the past five years, yes? Yeah. So if you took if you took just the first one, not all of them, just the first one, of Super Mario Brothers, which is an animation, Sonic the Hedgehog, which is also an animation, and you compare their box office numbers, would that be a fair measuring tool?
SPEAKER_00:Nah, well, okay, because Sonic wasn't completely animated. Sonic was more Sonic was more live action. Super Mario was completely animated. So you could do more, so you could do more with animation and make it feel more like a video game on on on the big screen. So I because because it's different media, because it's not totally animated, they you they use CGI, sure, but it's not it's not complete, it wasn't it, it wasn't an artist, like with what the Mario Brothers movie had. So I'm I'm I know Super Mario did a hell of a lot better than than Sonic. I already know that.
SPEAKER_04:So and I'm not taking anything away from Sonic, don't think no, not at all. I mean, respectively, both both movies had a hundred million budget or a hundred million dollar budget. Yep, Sonic was 85 to 90 million, Super Mario's was a hundred. Right. Okay. Box office for Sonic globally,$320 million, which is fucking phenomenal. Yeah. Okay. 1.3 billion.
SPEAKER_00:Absolutely. Absolutely. Again, again, they did number one, they did a fantastic job with the Super Mario movie because you can do. You can do a lot more with animation, right? Than you can with a live action. Not saying that they did terrible with Sonic. Obviously, they did great. We got three fucking movies out of it, right? Right. And and we're about to go into a fourth one. So that tells me you literally have a franchise now. Sonic is successful. Mario's getting their their second one. You know, they're going straight to I think it's um Mario, uh Mario Galaxy, I think.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, I see.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, so so we're getting we're getting a second one of that. I'm I'm going to assume that's gonna continue. And and rumor has it, uh I don't know if this is true or not, but I hope it is. They're gonna work to like the Avengers type deal to where we get a Smash Brothers movie.
SPEAKER_04:No, that would be fucking dope. That would be dope. That would be kind of cool.
SPEAKER_00:Please. Please make it happen. I am like, let's do this, let's make it happen.
SPEAKER_04:Could you see Wreck Ralph like beating up or trying to beat up Mario? I would love it. I would love it.
SPEAKER_02:I'm gonna wreck it!
SPEAKER_00:I mean, is he and of course we're also getting um we're also getting the uh live action uh uh Legend of Zelda.
SPEAKER_03:So finally, yeah, finally.
SPEAKER_00:We're getting we're getting live action Legend of Zelda. So if rumor if rumor holds true, they're working their way to a super smash brothers.
SPEAKER_04:This is so off topic, and I'm gonna fucking ask a question. I don't give a shit. Have you seen the skill shots of Street Fighter?
SPEAKER_03:Yep.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. So 50 Cent has been posting a bunch of pictures of him hitting a bag looking like Balrog. I'm here for it.
SPEAKER_00:I'm not upset. I'm not upset about it. I'm not upset about it.
SPEAKER_01:I'm not upset about it. Let's go.
SPEAKER_00:I've seen uh uh who you call it um uh uh uh Rhodes, uh Cody Rhodes as a shadow as yeah, oh my god. Yeah, I was like, this is this is about to this is about to go so stupid, and I don't know Yo, it's no so stupid for no reason. Yeah, it's it's about to get crazy. So, but anyway, there there you have it. Um if you it you can let us know, fire off in the comments who you believe the best gaming duo in history is. Um out of those three. Uh just wanted to give you those three, just for shits and gigs. Um fun fact? Anybody? Anybody want a fun fact?
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, let's hear it.
SPEAKER_01:Did you know?
SPEAKER_00:Sonic boom. That is not the fun fact. Um but did you know that a dinosaur's lifespan was surprisingly short?
SPEAKER_04:Sort of, I guess.
SPEAKER_00:What?
SPEAKER_04:Even like even like the Tyrannosaurus Rex?
SPEAKER_00:What? Do you want to hear more?
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, I I I yeah, I want to hear more because I don't know if it's like every dinosaur or if it's a or that like the small plant eater that would just get demolished every time.
SPEAKER_00:So, live fastile environment. Live fast. Die young. How dinosaurs lived viciously short lives. Dynolite! The surprising truth about how long dinosaurs really lived. It used to be thought that many dinosaurs achieved such huge sizes because they grew slowly and continuously, like crocodiles and iguanas do, for a century or more. We now know this wasn't the case, and that dinosaurs generally grew fast and died fairly young. We can tell the age of dinosaur fossils by cutting open their bones and counting growth lines. That's because, similar to a tree, dinosaurs laid down one ring of bone growth every year. This technique tells us that Tyrannosaurus Rex reached full size in about 16 to 22 years, and usually died at 27 to 33 years old. Other big carnivores, uh called Carodontosaurids I think I said that right, lived betwe lived to between thirty-nine and fifty-three years old. The very lar the largest dinosaurs, the long-necked seropods like Bronosaurus and double diplod Oh my god. Diplodocus, goodness gracious, words are hard, seem to have reached a similar age, although some could have lived maybe a decade or two longer, perhaps up to 70 years old. So there you have it. A tyrannosaurus rex only lived to be about 33.
SPEAKER_03:It's a shame.
SPEAKER_00:That is a shame.
SPEAKER_03:That's crazy.
SPEAKER_00:That is a shame. So they grew quickly. And died quickly. And died fast. There's no Yeah, that's that's that's actually interesting to think about. Like, you would think they lasted a while, right? Right. But uh hey, man, I mean, I guess good on them for being as big as they were and lasting that long. I don't know.
unknown:Right.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, what do I know? What do I know? Maybe we can bring them back from extinction and see if we can make them live longer in captivity in some kind of Jurassic Park. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I'm joking. Okay, let's not do that. Okay, don't do that. Um, anyway, uh we will wrap this up. Put a pretty little bow on it. Uh, great talk, by the way. Good talk, guys. Uh join us in uh two weeks where we will I don't think that's how you say weeks in Spanish, but you could try yeah, I guess you could try again next time. Join us in two weeks where we discuss some NFL stuff. You know why? Because football is back, baby. Dos Sonanos. Oh, oh, did you look it up real quick? You probably you probably still said it wrong. So I don't think so. Do not forget if you are looking to try out some magic mind, do not forget to stop by www.magicmind.com. Use our discount code FMJpod20 at checkout for 20% off. Um okay, uh Getty for 20% of full-time purchases and see if it works for you. All I hear is weeks in Spanish going on in my ear because he's trying to figure out how to fucking say it. That's all I hear. Fucking unbelievable. I I don't know. Can't make this shit up. We that's how you know this is unscripted. You can't write this shit. Okay, good job. Way to go. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Even the kids are happy. So please join us in two weeks when we discuss NFL stuff and I don't know, other entertainment news and have another great Reddit Roulette session. But until then, yeah, yeah, until then, say ta-ta to your fans. Adios amigos. Peace out, bitches. I see what you did there, Templeton. And then Bill lost. Us focus? Focus. Are you crazy? No. Kinda. Yes. That's that's a lie. Let me not lie. Thanks for listening. And please remember to follow us on Facebook at FMJ PodcastPros or on X at Pros FMJ. Don't forget to find the FMJ Podcast on YouTube. And if you want more of us, please subscribe to Extra Life. Today's broadcast brought to you by Trinity's Hot Noodles. We all love hot, steamy nudes. It's just a fact of life. Like death, the taxes, and the cowboys being garbage. Here at Trinity's, we're happy to send the nudes right to your doorstep, or you can come inside our door and get them fresh out of the box. They come in a variety of flavors spicy, creamy, even fish, and many, many more. We guarantee whatever flavor you choose, it will be hot and steamy. Trinity's noodles slurp some up today.
