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SPEAKER_00:We can still talk about butts. We can still talk about butts.
SPEAKER_01:We can still talk about Oh shit. Okay. Well, then as long as we know what we're talking about, um, I guess we can get underway and get this took care of so we can uh you know get to the end of as fast as possible. So as long as we are ready, are we red eye? Welcome back to another beautiful episode of the FMJ podcast where we make all your wildest fantasies come true. I'm just kidding, we don't do that unless you slap Templeton's butt specifically on the right cheek as hard as you possibly can.
SPEAKER_03:That's my favorite one.
SPEAKER_01:That's right. Make that make that bitch ripple and wiggle.
SPEAKER_06:Jiggle watts.
SPEAKER_03:Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle, wiggle, wiggle.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. So anyway, um, we are missing Yeti today because he is on Daddy Duty. And duty means poop. Which, you know, I'm sure it's part of Daddy Duty. So anyway, uh, we do have Chris here though. Chris.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:If you'd like to if you'd like to start us off, we're because we're gonna check some pulses.
SPEAKER_06:Check through his beard. Thank you. It feels like I'm resting right at a cool 79.
unknown:Ooh.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, you're chilling. You're chilling, man. We chillin'. Yeah, we chillin' over here. We chillin'. I woke up at 10 a.m. Took a couple riffs off of a joint. We good.
SPEAKER_01:Wake and bake. Yeah, that's how we do it.
SPEAKER_06:Grabbed a grabbed a uh a pumpkin spice latte, or is what I like to call the basic bitch latte. Let's go.
SPEAKER_04:Let's go.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, I was feeling I was feeling myself this morning. Little white girl in me.
SPEAKER_00:I'm feeling myself.
SPEAKER_06:Little white girl in me was like, this would be a little poke spice.
SPEAKER_00:So stupid.
SPEAKER_06:That was for all the wicked fans out there. Absolutely. Absolutely.
SPEAKER_01:Nah, but that's cool. That's cool.
SPEAKER_06:No, yeah. I've been chill. Um I was talking earlier. I um am about to have some some newfound free time, and I'm trying to figure out how to fill that free time, so I'm gonna use uh I'm gonna use that this winter to kind of restructure my studio and my storage space.
unknown:Ouch.
SPEAKER_06:And just try to get back down here more frequently. Get back to creating. I like I think the wintertime is a good time to create because uh naturally like the wintertime is um a place it it's weird because like the winter we think of like things are dying and going into hibernation, or it's a it's a good time to kind of like reflect on the year. But for me, for me, the winter is like okay, it's kind of a downtime. This is a time for me to be able to relax and kind of clear my mind, yeah. So I can start creating for the next year, uh, whether it be physically creating like artwork or like creating new uh goals, you know, or just whatever I want my next year to look like, I kind of like like mold that during the winter.
SPEAKER_05:That's fair.
SPEAKER_01:That's fair. Yeah. It is it is interesting to think that you know things start like you said, excuse me, especially na in nature, start dying down. But sometimes you do find the uh find the beauty in nature and say, you know what? I'm gonna start anew, right? Right, like I'm gonna I'm gonna build something uh build something during the winter time while everything else is dying, I'm gonna be thriving.
SPEAKER_06:So right, right. No, it's kind of like it's kind of like getting a jump start on the year, right? Like everything around me, subjectively, is uh kind of like in this relax mode. And like, you know, I used to work for a delivery company for years, and the winter used to be busy. Yeah, so I think that's why like my mentality is like gotta work, gotta work, gotta work, because I'm so used to like this being my peak season, yeah, and then the win, and then the summer being like the time to relax or whatnot. However, I think that now I'm transitioning into okay, this winter phase is for me to like recalibrate and kind of set up the building blocks for the summer, and then the summer is where I want to attack like attack some of those goals and like you know, selling art or whatever, getting out there and just trying to build this shit out. I hear you, I hear you.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, well, well, well, hey man, you'll figure it out. You'll you'll find you'll find different ways of uh uh utilizing your time. Um you will trust me. You will find ways. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because it's like I've I've been there, I'm still there. So it's like yeah, it I either will or I won't. Yeah, yeah. Look at life. Listen, some people, some people can't make it work, you know what I mean? Some people are like yeah, some people are just like, oh my god, I have way too much free time. And it's like, yeah, well, what can you do in that free time? Is there something that you've always wanted to do? You know, you where you were like, man, I don't have enough time to do that. And now you're like, I have too much free time. So maybe, huh? Yeah.
SPEAKER_06:Uh-huh. Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_01:Uh, maybe.
SPEAKER_06:But um, I do have this one idea that I want to um I think I want to make it like a real product. Okay. So uh not to get too political. I'm not, I'm not going to. But we all know, we all know that there's a giant ice machine trying to take over the country.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah.
SPEAKER_06:And um I made this little comic. I forget how many pages it is, or panels. I think it's eight panels. It's one page, but I think it's eight panels. Um, of this character goes into a bar, orders bourbon, the bartender says, How would you like that? And the the patron says, Neat. Yeah. And then he says, neat because fuck ice. And like that's a little comic. It's just like a you know, it's like a little, a little, a little stabby stab. No, I get it. I get it. But I was thinking, uh, so I I I drew it out like months ago, uh, it seems like, and then recently I inked it and kind of like redrew a couple of the panels. Um, but I was thinking yesterday while I was at work, I was thinking it would be kind of cool to make that a physical product. Because they're like I tried to draw them like Instagram square size, although a couple of them were a little too skinny. Like, like think of if you think in a movie context, I tried to draw them all IMAX screened, but a couple of them turned out widescreen.
SPEAKER_05:Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_06:If that makes sense.
SPEAKER_05:Yep.
SPEAKER_06:Uh so like I tried to be square, a couple of them got rectangular, but I was thinking I like if I do this for real, I'll just redraw it. Um so they're all the same size. Because I want all the panels to be the exact same. And I was thinking of making them uh I have two thoughts. I was thinking of making it obviously squared, because then it could be like an ice cube, and then the cover, the cover could be like uh an ice cube that's melting.
SPEAKER_00:Ah, okay.
SPEAKER_06:So then, like, so when you pick it up, you see this like melting ice cube, right? Um, and then you open it up and then it's the comic. The other thought I had for a cover could be like a glass, like a a a glass of bourbon with no ice. And then you open it up and it's it's the comic.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, okay.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, I think that that'd be kind of fun.
SPEAKER_01:Creative smarts there. I like it. I like it. I like it.
SPEAKER_06:Because like I could turn that into, like I said, a physical product. Yep. And then it because it's so tiny, I mean, I could sell that for like one or two bucks. Yes. If I and if I'm making it myself, I could print out the pages right here in my studio. Yeah, it's a lot of work for me to do. What a for that time. But exactly. Give me something to do, give me a little skill to learn because I've always wanted to like bind my own comics anyway. And I have a friend who does it, and she she makes these little like mini comics, and she'll like get the thread and like some I think she uses like beeswax or something to like run the thread through the paper so it does like reduces friction and stuff. Excuse me. But yeah, I don't know. I'm I might do something like that. Not a bad idea. Not a bad idea.
SPEAKER_01:We're all looking forward to the next big Grizz creation.
SPEAKER_03:Exactly.
SPEAKER_06:So I need a next big Grease creation because I haven't made anything in a while. I hear you, bro. Like not finished, not finished work. I've done a bunch of sketches, but I haven't finished a painting in forever.
SPEAKER_01:I I hear you, bruh. I gotta, I gotta, I gotta get back in the uh in the old workshop myself. So um we are looking forward to it. Uh let uh keep us posted uh as far as what what you what you come up with. Um Tepleton. What's up? I'm sniffing my microphone. I can smell you. Can you tell us what what your pulse looks like?
SPEAKER_03:I think it's like a 77.
SPEAKER_00:77. 67. God damn it.
SPEAKER_06:I saw this thing yesterday. I saw this thing yesterday online. It said kids today. 6'7. Me when I was a kid, and it was just like a uh stick figure going, suck it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:That's the difference. So 77 isn't bad though, Templeton. Uh seems pretty chill, just like Grizz. Uh how what's what's new with you?
SPEAKER_03:You not much, buddy. I'm just a Morgan. And that's about it.
SPEAKER_00:Pam bills, playing games, reading books, hunting deer.
SPEAKER_03:Hunting deer.
SPEAKER_00:Maybe why?
SPEAKER_03:Only Bambi. Only Bambi. I'm gonna get the motherfucker. Damn.
SPEAKER_01:Only Bambi? God damn. Leave Bambi alone.
SPEAKER_06:Leave Bambi alone. I don't know. Yeah, you just triggered like a whole generation. Did I? No, no, no, no, no. Tripleton.
SPEAKER_02:Hunting Bambi.
SPEAKER_01:Only Bambi. That's the only deer I want to find.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Like, how dare you? How dare you?
SPEAKER_01:Alright, well, as long as nothing bad is going on, right? You is we're we're all good then. So okay, cool, cool, cool beans. Good to hear. Hopefully everything stays the course. Yeah, so entertainment news. Who's ready for it? Come on. Rub your nipples. Get ready. Because Infinity Castle has made history by officially becoming the highest grossing foreign film of all time in the US. In the US. Yeah? Yeah. It made$128 million domestically and$648 million worldwide only on a$20 million budget. So right? So I think that uh I think that says a lot, especially for the anime community, right? Um that's huge news because a lot of people look at anime as, you know, oh nobody watches that. Only nerds and kids watch that. Well, false.
SPEAKER_06:Call me a nerdy kid then, baby. Really?
SPEAKER_01:Because what are we talking about here? Um, but no, that was that was really cool and neat to learn, and especially uh on the heels of um I know I bring it up a lot, but uh K-pop demon hunters, it's like obviously animated films, there's there's there there are um there's a fan base, right? Like there's a want for it. So I don't know why they don't I think now they will catch on and uh they'll start saying, you know what, we're gonna we're gonna start making more of these. Which yeah I won't be upset about. And no, no. Yeah, and seeing that uh uh uh Demon Slayer with is being very successful with how they're doing it because people have asked me those that have you know asked me if I've seen Infinity Castle. Um they've said like are you excited for like the next season? I'm like, brother, there won't be a next season.
SPEAKER_04:It's literally just two more movies.
SPEAKER_01:There's two there's two more movies and that's it. We're not getting anything else. Yeah. So now anime has done it before where they've made like they did a season and then they made a movie to bridge the season the next season.
SPEAKER_00:Right, right, right, right.
SPEAKER_01:Um never has it happened where they did an entire arc of a season in a film in in film format. So I think I think uh with the success of Demon Slayer, I think we will we should see more of that, I think. Personally, yeah.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah. I like it because um when you think about it, it is kind of all the whole season just boiled into one movie. Right. Right. So I recently just watched um Chainsaw Man. Yep. And at the end on Crunchyroll, when you get to the end of the season, there are two 90 minute, I think it was 90 minutes, two hour and a half like movies, and it's just it's I think it says like Chainsaw Man compilation. And I started watching it just to make sure, like, because I've skipped over a movie before, not realizing I was supposed to watch it. Let me let me let me make sure this isn't new shit. Yeah, so like I I kind of like skimmed through the first 10 minutes and then the last 10 minutes and and a little bit in the middle, and I was like, okay, this all looks like what I've already seen.
SPEAKER_04:Right.
SPEAKER_06:So what it seems like is you could skip all the episodes on Crunchyroll and just go to the very bottom of the playlist and just watch those last two films, basically, and that's the whole season. And I think that that's kind of cool because like yeah, I like watching the episodes in the in the sense of I want to get in and out, you know, you know what I mean? Like watch like 20 minutes, 30 minutes, or 20, 40 minutes, and then like go on about my day. But like if I'm having a full-blown binge mode where it's like, no, I can sit down for two hours and watch something. Give me a movie. It's it's exactly give me a movie. And so like Demon Slayer choosing to to wrap up this last season, this arc, in three movies, like that's goaded.
SPEAKER_01:I love it.
SPEAKER_06:Because it's like, yeah, because it's like like this is this this is the part of the story that you don't want to be cliff-hung. Yep, yep, you know, like I don't want to be uh in the middle of an episode or at the end of an episode and then be like, all right, join us next week.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, what what do you mean?
SPEAKER_01:What do you mean? Don't get me wrong.
SPEAKER_06:Could you imagine watching uh the part one of the infinity castle and like with the Zenetsu fight and then have to wait till next Sunday to finish that?
SPEAKER_01:I would have hurt somebody. Yeah, that season, because because I know the creators said um what did they say? They didn't want to overstay their welcome essentially because they didn't want they said they didn't want to drag out the final season, right? Because let's be real, a lot of uh a lot of companies probably would have did that. They probably would have squeezed as much as they possibly could and been like, you know what? Uh looking at you, One Piece. Um they the I wasn't gonna say I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Sorry, over over a thousand episodes.
SPEAKER_04:Oh my god.
SPEAKER_01:Over a thousand episodes, like be fucking for real, right? No, nobody wants that. Nobody wants that. So it's like it it's it's it's very interesting because I honestly tell people the same thing with um with Dragon Ball. If they if they decide to get into it and start moving into Dragon Ball Super. Because when Dragon Ball Super first started their episodic um um uh series back up, uh the the whatchall it the um schedule, the scheduling and all that really hurt the animation of the of the series. Like in the very beginning, you can tell like they were on a tight schedule and they were just trying to like you know push them out, push them out, push them out. Instead of just focusing on like picking up on the universe six vs seven arc after because there are two movies that came out that were still under Dragon Ball Z and not Dragon Ball Super, and that was Battle of Gods, which is basically the first arc of Dragon Ball Super retold, and Resurrection F, which is the second arc of Dragon Ball Super. They just added a few more things into the episodic uh form of it rather than the movie. And I'm like, if you want Peak animation and to get it, you know, more digestible, watch the first two movies and then go into Universe 6-7, and I promise you it'll it'll feel so much better. And everybody I've told that to has said the same thing. That is the best way to do it. And I'm like, right? Because when they go back and they watch the episodes of uh Battle of Gods and Resurrection F, and they're like, it just feels drawn out. I'm like, right, the movie, the movies do it perfectly, and I don't know why they didn't, and that's where I say a lot of companies will try to squeeze out as much as they possibly can episodically. Yeah, and just just just random shit that we really didn't need this information. We didn't. Yes, it's cool that you touched on it, but we didn't need it. Like we got we got the gist of it in the movie. So I find that very interesting. I love that that uh eupholdable and and you know Demon Slayer just all together has this much success. Hooray for us. Because like I said, we'll see we'll see more of that. Templeton, are you big in anime or not really?
SPEAKER_03:Kind of mid, I guess. Okay. Like I love I love Dragon Ball.
SPEAKER_00:Right.
SPEAKER_03:Um one of my favorites is um blue-eyed samurai. Love that. Great, great show, great show. Stuff like that. Like, I don't I just need to like have I have to know what the still should show is about before I start watching it.
SPEAKER_06:Okay. That's fair. Oh, you don't like you don't like trying new stuff out? I don't want to waste my time. Interesting.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, that is and and again, that's that's fair. Like a lot of people will will look at it that way, but I will say, uh, you won't know if you're wasting your time until you try it out.
SPEAKER_03:And you know, to you're not wrong.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, to to to just kind of make the step toward enjoying something, you know, watch the first three episodes, and if you're not hooked by then, then then call it a day. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, then step away, yeah, for sure. So that would be also I I I want to add that I do like Full Metal Alchemist.
SPEAKER_01:That's a good one.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, it's a classic. Yeah, it's that is a good one. Um I want to rewatch it because it's been so long that I don't really remember the story that well.
SPEAKER_01:I start I started it. I think I'm like on episode ten or eleven, so I need to I need to go back to watching it religiously.
SPEAKER_06:But no, that's that's cool. I know it's not the point of the entertainment news, however. Can we talk about the movie a little bit?
unknown:Sure, sure.
SPEAKER_06:Which movie we don't Infinity Castle.
SPEAKER_01:Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. I mean, it's kind of the point of it.
SPEAKER_06:Well, I mean we're yeah, it's just like so I so I I I saw it in theater, right? Um and I walked away from it like like positive. Like I I had a great time. I thought I thought it was a good I thought it was a good movie. Um but if I were to change one thing, well, really it's two things when you think about it, but if I were to make like one suggestion for them to have swapped some stuff, I would have made Zenetsu's fight longer, no, excuse me, shorter, and and then that way I okay, I would have made Zenetsu's fight shorter and more successful. It was a successful fight, but like more successful.
SPEAKER_05:Yep.
SPEAKER_06:And then I would have at the end with uh uh Tanjiro um fighting his demon, I would Akaza like yeah, Akaza, I would have taken the the the um the flashback and like shortened that hella. Okay because like that that flashback for me felt a little too long. Okay, and then the z the Zenetsu fight would have had more punch had he like walked away instead of the turnout, yeah. I don't know how much of it we want to actually talk about because it's been out for a minute, but I don't know it has, and and I don't want to give too much away, but I'm just saying like um between like just between the room, I think that the way the way that the setup for Zenetsu was, you know, like the birds, the birds were like Zenetsu's going off on his own, you know, and it's like it would have been so cool to see him just like jump because like my boy was locked.
SPEAKER_01:So so I I feel like that's where the impact was. I think that's where that's how it made it very impactful because Zenetsu, he wasn't even asleep during that fight, you know what I'm saying? So it's like the only time we ever seen the only time we ever seen badass Zenetsu like that was when he was out cold and and unconscious Zenetsu, and then he wakes up, he's like, Why did you exactly why am I here by myself? So it's like so I think that's what made it the most impactful is that he did go off by himself and he straight up obviously he had history with this with this with this guy, right?
SPEAKER_06:Right, right.
SPEAKER_01:So I I appreciated that, and I think I think where I would have appreciated it was you know the fact that him and old dude were like I guess I don't want to say top of their class, but you know, Zenetsu was looked at as okay, he can't get past this first level technique, yeah, level one technique breathing, but other dude can't even master the first one, but he's like dope at everything else, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_06:And then here comes Zenetsu, and he's interesting because the first the first technique is supposed to be the unlock for everything else.
SPEAKER_01:Yep.
SPEAKER_06:So how do you unlock everything else? But you can't do the first one.
SPEAKER_01:Yep.
SPEAKER_06:You know, that I found I find that dynamic interesting.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it it almost seems like uh level one uh uh breathing for that technique is like the foundation for everything else, and that's probably why Zenetsu was capable of creating a new level of breathing that old dude never seen because he understood the fundamentals of it, he at least got the foundation of the of the technique, while other dude is like, Well, I can do all the complicated shit, it's that basic shit that I don't care for, and it's like, yeah, but right, like like he's he's like too good for the basic right, right, right. Ultimately, that was his downfall, and that's why Zenetsu had a he had a stronger foundation. I think that they were trying to teach Zenetsu had the stronger foundation than all than other dude had, and that's what ultimately called he was like, Yo, I never seen that before. He's like, Yeah, because I just I created it, I just whip that shit up, bro.
SPEAKER_06:Exactly.
SPEAKER_01:You're the first one to see it, and probably the last.
SPEAKER_06:He says, send your compliments to me, the chef. Exactly.
SPEAKER_04:Chef's gifts.
SPEAKER_06:Well, you know what I would have liked to have seen. So, like Zenetsu, you know, he's locked in, he's laser focused, he drops down, he's like, get the fuck out them shadows, bitch. Bruh, and then like you know, like he gives him his little monologue, and then then I would have liked to seen a uh like I almost say cutscene because I'm thinking like video game. Yeah, but uh it goes to a flashback. Okay, and then and then like because I think they do a little bit of flashbacks in between the fight.
SPEAKER_00:Yes, they do.
SPEAKER_06:I would have liked to see him drop down, say his shit, and then boom, backstory, like a little bit of lore. And then after that, you know, it's been like, I don't know, let's say two minutes, two minutes of that, get it caught up, get back to the fight, and then like you know, at that point, so you get back, they do a little bit of scuttling, you know, they're doing a little bit of fighting, and and then Zenatsu busts out his new move, wins, KO, and then walks away. Like, that's what I wanted to see. I got because like my my guy has been in the lab yeah all this time. He's been cooking, he's been cooking, yeah. And I think it would have been really fucking cool to see that character growth to where and then now like by the end of the film, he can like team up with uh uh Tanjiro, you know, and then the second movie starts, and then like you know, there I don't know how it's gonna start, but you know what I'm saying. I'm with you. I'm with you. No, um That's what I personally wanted to see.
SPEAKER_01:Being a huge uh manga reader myself, I know where we're going, right? And I've seen a Yeah, I haven't read this. Like you footable, I shit you not, has like taking nothing. They took nothing and created something because a lot of those shots, like I shit you not, if you if you don't bother reading the manga, the anime is literally almost one for one of the manga. The difference is the anime, um, they kind of took like certain panels and stuff like that, or certain sections of the manga where it was bare bones, like this is this is basically basically what you get, right? And they elaborated more on what was happening, and they literally took nothing and made something out of it, and how they bro, hats off to them. Like, hang on, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Yes, I I I want to applaud you foldable for what they did with with with everything as far as the Infinity Castle arc goes right now. And I appreciated the uh Tanjiro Akaza uh rematch because you know uh he didn't know Ren Goku for long, but even within that time uh that time frame of being on the train and all that kind of stuff and and being around Ren Goku, it was impactful, especially for Tanjiro.
SPEAKER_06:And he was that too, you know, yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_01:And he was and they were that close to beating Akaza back there on the train and to finally, you know, even even on the rematch, he didn't he didn't quite finish him off. It was Akaza basically like stopping himself because he the dude was too angry to fucking die. Yeah, dude, yeah, yeah. And I mean after after yeah, after learning his backstory, I was like, valid crash out. Like, I'm not like that valid crash out.
SPEAKER_06:I'm I'm I'm with one of them that's one of them demons that I was like, nah, I get it, bro.
SPEAKER_01:Like no, like legit, no, I get it. I get why you did what you did. Does it excuse what you did? No, but I get it. I understand you. Like that that's wild though. But to just stop himself, I was like, brother, that's woo.
SPEAKER_04:I want to watch the movie again.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, right, right. It was fucking a watch party would be sick. That would be awesome. I would love that. So, um, Templeton, if you're ever interested in Demon Slayer, I would highly suggest it. I think I think you would personally enjoy it. I I honestly do. I think you'd enjoy it from start to finish. I believe you, buddy. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_06:So have they mentioned when it's gonna be on Crunchy? Is it on Crunchy yet?
SPEAKER_01:Um, not yet. I've been keeping an eye on that.
SPEAKER_06:Because when it hits, I'm I'm I'm I'm gonna be on that.
SPEAKER_01:It's gonna be non-stop.
SPEAKER_06:It's gonna be when it hits, we should watch party it.
SPEAKER_01:I should watch party that I'm good with that. I'm good with that. Yeah, because I love that. I'll put it on the TV right there.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, we could just sit in Discord and watch it.
SPEAKER_01:I'm good with that. We could do a whole extra lives episode of just watching I'm good with that.
SPEAKER_06:We could do a live stream of this. Exactly.
SPEAKER_01:I am so good with that. So, but um, yeah, to wrap up entertainment news, yeah. I'm good, good on you, Foldable. Like I said, I'm I'm very I'm very proud of them, happy for what they're doing, and they're definitely changing the way I think um the world and everybody starts to look at anime because again, it used to be like this nerd stuff. Now it's like, oh, everybody wants to watch it now. I'm like, hey, welcome to the family, baby. I'm I'm not gonna gatekeep, watch it all, watch it all, take it all in. So um good for us, good for us, but we don't have Yeti, so we'll have to do a Reddit roulette without him. So Templeton in good in in good old Yeti fashion. I'm going to ask you to pick a number between one and two point seven.
SPEAKER_03:Two point eight.
SPEAKER_01:Two point eight, okay. Here we go, here we go, here we go. One. You doesn't go as fast as his does. Sure, why not? Oh wait, what? Oh, this is gonna be interesting. Am I the asshole for running away, in quotes, because my parents were late to my graduation over a laboo-boo.
SPEAKER_02:Huh? Yeah.
SPEAKER_06:Oh, are we good with this one? I'm gonna go ahead and say this person is the asshole, probably.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, okay, for running away because my parents were late to my graduation over a laboo-boo.
SPEAKER_06:Let's I gotta find out who the laboo-boo was for first, but I feel like this person's probably being a brat. Probably. I feel like the whole family's a brat, but like I'm I'll I'll hear it out.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, well, look, let's let's find out. Okay. The post the OP writes this. Okay, I know this sounds so ridiculous and insane. Yeah, we all kind of agree here. Yeah. Says I, 18 female, am adopted and was adopted as a baby. My parents thought they couldn't have kids, even tried IVF. So when my sister princess, 10, was born, it was a miracle. Everything changed. Princess was spoiled, and clearly the favorite. She never got in trouble, was always right, got whatever she wanted, and acted however she wanted. My parents didn't treat me badly though, but if I got one toy, Princess got five. It sucked. I was jealous, and I got in trouble for it. The princess got worse around age six when she realized how much she could get away with. She broke my things, hurt others, stole, and hated when anyone else had attention. I became a target. Luckily, I had friends, school, and relatives for support, though so it wasn't the worst. I did great in school and joined clubs and sports just to stay out of the house. During summer, I worked or interned just to avoid her. Now I have a car and a boyfriend since sophomore year. I stay with him a lot, and his family loves me, so I'm barely home, maybe 24 hours at most, weekly. My parents didn't care, and this was my normal, so I stopped caring too. Anyway, graduation was last month. One of the few things I asked my parents to come to. I was excited. They seem they seemed excited, and some relatives came too. But Princess had to ruin it. See see, her current obsession are these doll plush keychains called Labooo Boos. She collects them, and that specific day she found this super rare one for sale in our city. Now instead of contacting the seller and buying it the next day, my parents went to go get it, and not only that spent$350, my graduation gift was$150. Then they showed up so late our caps were already being tossed. I was hurt. After graduation, I ignored them and went home with my boyfriend. I've basically moved in with them at this point since any time I went back home, in quotes, it was to get my things to go back. My parents called, texted, apologized, even came over and begged me to forgive them. Worst part of it all, they think it's the money and sent me another hundred dollars. I refused to talk to them. Now it's serious as they're threatening to report me as missing or a runaway and contact my future college if I don't go back home. I feel justified in my actions and don't think it's that serious, but am I the asshole?
SPEAKER_04:No.
SPEAKER_06:Alright. Hear me out. We're listening. Do I think do I think they're the asshole? Not necessarily. Okay. Do I think do I think that they're approaching this in a very immature way? Yes. Well Yes, I do. However, they are only 18. They're only 18. So they're allowed they're they're allowed some level of immaturity.
SPEAKER_04:Right.
SPEAKER_06:But in that same breath, I don't feel like you get to act like your life you're trying to like build your life and still be immature at the same time.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah.
SPEAKER_06:You know, like moving in with your boyfriend, trying to go to college, you want to start your life, you know, this and the other. Part of starting life is growing up and being mature. So you gotta address the you gotta address the important things. You can't just run away from life.
SPEAKER_01:That's very true. That is very true.
SPEAKER_06:And just because it's uncomfortable doesn't mean you uh can avoid it.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah.
SPEAKER_06:Um, nor does it mean you should avoid it. Like I do think that if your life is in danger, yeah, avoid things. But the responsible thing to do is to be communicative.
unknown:Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_06:And even from a young age, it's it's wild to me that people think that they can't communicate their feelings like to their parents.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_06:And maybe maybe they have tried and their parents are like, uh, whatever, and then they just have shitty parents, and that's that's unfortunate. But I think the uh the uh the more appropriate solution could have been, and maybe they didn't see this uh or as an option, but me being objective, just communicating, right? Like if if they get one gift and their their sister gets five, you know, just like vocalizing, like, hey, I don't feel like that's that doesn't seem fair or that doesn't seem right. And then allowing the parents to realize like because like the parents could not even be which what I'm about to say shouldn't come out my mouth, but they they they might not even realize how they're being um like more favorites favorite than the other, you know?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah, yeah. They they they may not see that.
SPEAKER_06:I know, I hear you.
SPEAKER_01:But uh they they they may not see the error in their ways of treating one kid over another.
SPEAKER_06:They're so excited, right? Like, oh we we had this kid, we thought we couldn't, and like we just want to spoil this child. Correct. Well, it's like you have a responsibility as a parent to if you especially if you have more than one child, you cannot treat one different than the other.
SPEAKER_01:You have to treat them both with the same level of care and respect because we are human and we will get jealous, like it's one of our Especially, especially one being adopted and the other being that that already if you're yep, that already holds 100% agree some kind of you know feeling within OP because she was adopted. So it's like as an adopted child, she's gonna look at this total through a totally different lens than everybody else is looking at. And I don't think the parents, maybe possibly that's where you're saying the parents may not see the error in their ways. Maybe there's maybe they're gonna view it as, oh, come on, you're being just a spoiled little brat. Are they though? Because they're looking at it at a different way. One of them is a spoiled little brat. Correct. Which again, I get it because they were told they won't they'll they'll never have kids. So now they're like, okay, well, you weren't supposed to be here, so we're gonna spoil the fuck out of you. But at the same time, you also adopted a child. You can't just now all of a sudden neglect the other child and be like, ah, you're fine. You're 18 and you're gonna be out of the house, blah, blah, blah. No, that's not that's not how that works. Like, that's that's not how that works. That's how that's how you create damaged goods. But Templeton, you said not the asshole. What are your thoughts on it?
SPEAKER_03:I just think that she's like kind of a very valid point, right? Treat me the way that you want your other kids to be treated.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. And especially especially showing up late for a laboo-boo. Yeah, that's wild work, right?
SPEAKER_06:Like, that's wild work. Like, I these the boo-boos, these the boo-boos are crazy.
SPEAKER_01:I I I still barely know what the hell they are.
SPEAKER_06:So I'm like, I just I just don't, it's I think it's this generation's a beanie baby, bro.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, is oh you think so? Uh-huh. Very much. See, I need to do more research into what the fuck are we?
SPEAKER_06:I think I think I think from a value standpoint, they're worth like beanie babies are probably worth money now. For sure. But they weren't expensive like when we were kids, right? Like they were 30 bucks, maybe. 350 and bucks for a laboo boo? Yo, right? Or like what the boomers have? Cabbage patch kids.
SPEAKER_01:Cabbage patch kids.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, yeah. That's all the laboo boo is the new fad toy that's gonna die and probably not be worth anything in 10 years.
SPEAKER_01:Which is fucking wild. But to really show up late to graduation over a laboo-boo, I think that's I think that's grounds to be a little upset, you know. Like, like especially for, you know, you only I mean, I could say you only graduate once, but you graduate high school. I graduate high school once. Yeah, you know what I mean? It's like yeah, she she's gonna go to college, all that kind of stuff, and and she's getting to that point, but again, uh just because you're like, oh, you're you're 18, you'll you're you'll you'll survive. They still need the parent, right? Like they still need that support system, and you're not being that support system that you that you signed up for, essentially.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, you're all doing scavenger hunts for a fucking toy.
SPEAKER_01:For a fucking toy.
SPEAKER_06:Like, what is this? Jingle all the way turbo map.
SPEAKER_02:It is funny because we just talked about this. No, I know, I know. Oh my god, how did we come full circle?
SPEAKER_01:It's turbo time. Like those are those are the parents, like 100%, those are the parents that would get into a fight in Toys Arms to be like, that's for my daughter.
SPEAKER_06:Also, also, I find it incredibly disappointing that there's probably listeners that there's likely at least one percent of listeners that don't know that people used to like hoard the stores for fucking toys for Christmas. Yep, Toys Raz, fucking Walmart, Target, Black Friday.
SPEAKER_01:You name it, bro. They were there. KB Toys when KB Toys existed.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, you name it.
SPEAKER_01:It's like that that yeah, you're right. There's a generation of kids that will never understand that what parents and people had to go to. Why don't you just buy it online? Because we didn't have that luxury, bro. Like you had to physically go get it. Yeah. So, but no, I think I think the consensus here is not the asshole. And just reading through the comments, I think mostly mostly everybody saying not the asshole. I think that's gonna be um I think that might just be the consensus there.
SPEAKER_06:Because that's I just want to say if the original poster is listening, just know that it's not your fault that your parents are being immature.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah. I uh again uh I I to a point I get it because they again the the the the other daughter is miracle baby essentially, and that can put blinders on just about anybody as far as for sure, for sure. Because you're again, you weren't supposed to be here, but now you're here. So while you're here, I'm going to appreciate you, love you to the fullest. Again, you have the other child too. You have to you have to do the same thing for both of them. They are both uh, you know, they're both miracles and gifts to you. Again, you signed up, you made a choice, right, to sign the papers and take somebody else's child. You made that choice, you made that conscious decision. So you need to continue to be that support system for that child. So not the asshole, not the asshole. So there you go. Um, but yeah, good talk. That was that was actually pretty cut and dry. Uh, we like in the beginning, we were like, this could go either way. You might be the spoiler brat. Right, right. Could be, but upon further review, no, not so much. Not so much.
SPEAKER_06:Especially, especially if you're after the review of the play.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, exactly. The play is overturned. Um exactly. The call on the field has been overturned. 100% Templeton, are you being called into work?
SPEAKER_02:Hello. Hello? I am being a spam call. Spam, we love spam calls. You should have answered it. Fuck them. What?
SPEAKER_06:Why? Word, word. What do you mean? Real talk? Real talk? I almost bought a can of spam the other day. Oh my god. I was like, bro, I haven't had spam in a minute. Right. Fried spam sandwich. You know what I'm saying? Try up some spam with some and then put put on toast with mustard and cheese.
SPEAKER_03:I was at the store the other day and they had pumpkin spice spam. I almost vomited it. Yeah, that I almost vomited.
SPEAKER_06:That doesn't listen. I know I had a pumpkin spice latte earlier. That doesn't sound good. Pumpkin spice spam.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, that doesn't sound good.
SPEAKER_06:Like, what did they do? What if we done? What if we done companies out there like, you know who would really like our spam?
SPEAKER_01:No. No, no.
SPEAKER_06:Them Hanzolo looking motherfuckers. They would want our spam.
SPEAKER_01:Swing and a miss. I think you need to get back to the drawing board on that one. Are we fucking serious? Pumpkin spiced spam? No. No, thank you, no, thank you. I'm good. I'm good. I will pass. Hard pass. So anyway. Um what if it tastes good though? Listen.
SPEAKER_03:It can't.
SPEAKER_01:Listen. This is this is where I'm gonna say we all need to just stop talking about pumpkin spice spam and and really get our heads out of our asses because it almost sounds like we need some magic mind. Oh shit. Hang on, wait, wait, wait. We gotta we gotta do it right, bro. We gotta do it right.
SPEAKER_03:Do they have pumpkin spice spam flavor?
SPEAKER_01:You know, let me let me be real with you. If they did come up with a pumpkin spiced flavored magic mind, I'm all in. I am all I am 110% in. Even if they did like a uh like an apple cider type type deal. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Are you kidding me?
SPEAKER_03:I would dig that. I would dig that. Could you imagine the I love apple cider?
SPEAKER_06:Right, the marketing, it's it's cold outside. Do you need to feel warm and focused? Well, I got the thing for you.
SPEAKER_01:Brother.
SPEAKER_06:Pumpkin spice. Brother.
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SPEAKER_02:I mean, I call it Tails on a quarter. Tails on a quarter. But we can do butts.
SPEAKER_01:Tails on a quarter? No, we had to flip, we had to flip a coin because okay, story time. On our last episode, on last time on FMJ podcast, uh, we did plug a show. We were just a step ahead of ourselves because it's not Halloween yet. And our next episode is supposed to be Halloween themed, not this episode.
SPEAKER_03:So Spooky.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, but still, it is spooky season, so you know, go watch some spooky shows, uh, play some spooky games. I just bought Little Nightmares 3 and uh Alan Wake 2, by the way, which both should keep me pretty busy. I want to get uh Silent Hill F, but I think today, because we had to flip a coin, we weren't we were kind of split. We had to flip a coin, and for some reason Grizz was like, Heads is butts, and I was like, butt head. Like I get it. I got what he was doing. I got what he was doing.
SPEAKER_03:I only say butts because I like to troll.
SPEAKER_01:No, I know, but it's just it's just funny that he didn't call tails butts. I I don't know how he missed that opportunity. I know, yeah. He's just butts is heads, okay. Butt head. Got it, got it. Beavis a butthead. So unf unfortunately, though, we landed on tails, which is which is going to be Hideo Kojima. That was that was the butt. No, he's not the butt of the joke, but he is the butt of the conversation, right? Yeah, because they just recently um released Metal Gear Solid Snake Eater Delta, which is essentially Metal Gear Solid 3. It is a total remake from the ground up. Uh they overhauled the graphics, all that kind of stuff. They added a few uh few interesting little details, especially like um like when you get injuries and stuff like that. If they're severe enough, you can actually wind up on scars well with scars on your body that will stay with you throughout the entire game. That's really sad. Even after you bandage yourself up. So if if you've never yeah, if you've never played Metal Gear Solid 3, it was an interesting uh there were interesting additions to the game. Um, first and foremost, let's start with this. How uh between the two of you, who here has played Metal Gear Solid, at least Metal Gear Solid on the PlayStation 1?
SPEAKER_03:I think I played. Okay.
SPEAKER_01:Was there one PS2?
SPEAKER_06:Was there one for PS2?
SPEAKER_01:Yes, that was Metal Gear Solid 2. Uh, Sons of Liberty.
SPEAKER_06:Um I may I don't remember which one I've played, but I do remember like playing a little bit, and it could have been a friends game or even a demo at the store. Remember when they used to do that? You go to Walmart and Target, and you hear like sit there playing broken neck for hours, dude. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:There I am while mom while mom shop.
SPEAKER_06:Who who in the asshole put a TV ten feet in the air for a little fucking like four three three and a half foot tall ten-year-old to fucking stare up at? I don't know. That was the worst posture.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, that's that's probably what's wrong with all of our necks and backs today.
unknown:Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:See, this is why I don't like corporate.
SPEAKER_06:This is why I hate corporate.
SPEAKER_01:They hurt us as children.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:So Templeton, you said you played the first one. Yes.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_03:And it's just a box.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it's just a box. Huh? What was that noise? So, but Grizz, you said you weren't sure which one you played. Now to be fair. Um if I think at a certain point in time, especially after uh Metal G Metal Gear Solid 3 came out. Um I think they did do like a uh like a trilogy for the PS2 where they had Metal Gear Solid 1, 2, and 3 all in one all in one box.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, like a bundle. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Because I think I'm pretty sure if I'm not mistaken, that's how I did get Metal Gear Solid 3. Because I I still we do still have the PS1. I know I think we still have Metal Gear Solid for it. I wasn't 100% sure. But to get but to like just play it all in succession, because I haven't played two or three up until that point. I bought all three for the PS2. Nice. Um and buddy, I went from start to finish, and my god, what an experience that was. Yeah, it was it was a hell of an experience. Now um there yeah, uh uh there is the way it goes. Um, it's kind of like kind of like those familiar with Dragon Ball, you have Metal Gear, and then there's Metal Gear Solid, just like you have Dragon Ball, and then you have Dragon Ball Z or Dragon Ball Super or Dragon Ball GT.
SPEAKER_04:Yep.
SPEAKER_01:So Metal Gear came out a long time ago, and I believe it was on uh Nintendo or Game Boy. One of those one of those two, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it was uh I I'm if I'm not mistaken, I think it was like top down. Um, okay. Yeah, and it was uh it told the story, if all the story of uh Solid Snake as a young Solid Snake and going through and stopping basically Big Boss and all his plans, like nuclear plans for war and all that kind of stuff. Now, during Metal Gear, you don't like yes, it gives you a lot of backstory, all that kind of stuff, but it doesn't necessarily tell you how everything like basically got to the point that it did. But that's kind of when Metal Gear Solid stepped in and kind of filled in a lot of those holes uh because he was capable of doing a lot of things on the PlayStation that he couldn't do on like Nintendo or uh the Game Boy, whichever, whichever one it came out on. I'm pretty sure I I think it's I think it was Nintendo. But I wanted to discuss Hideo Kojima because of the success that uh Snake Eater Delta's having. And the way that he was very innovative as far as the gaming goes, because the first Metal Gear Solid did things that I don't think any game had done prior, or I would say since then, because how many by a show of hands, don't be embarrassed, okay, how many of us uh took forever to find out how to beat Psycho Mantis the first go round?
SPEAKER_03:Me.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah Grizz is like, I don't remember at all. Exactly. So Templeton, I wanna I wanna ask you, how long did it take you to realize what you had to do to beat Psycho Mantis?
SPEAKER_03:Many, many, many days.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Yeah. So Grizz, if you're unfamiliar with Psycho Mantis, does the name ring a bell at all or no?
SPEAKER_06:No, it's not ringing a bell. Okay.
SPEAKER_01:So Psycho Mantis in Metal Gear Solid was one of the like mini bosses that you'd fight throughout the entire game, right? Um there were so many that you'd have to fight.
SPEAKER_06:A recurring character or kinda sort of.
SPEAKER_01:It was like he he was kind of a one-off until later on in uh in the series. Um but you always had you had like your mini bosses to go through before you fight the big boss at the end of the game, right? So you had like you had Raven, who was like in the tank and you had to lob grenades in there and all that kind of shit. And then you had Psychomantis, Sniper Wolf, and you had the cyborg ninja who you fought every now and then. You met him like twice, I think. Um and then of course Revolver Oscelot, who wow who is now he's recurring, he's like throughout the entire series really um of Metal Gear Solid. And uh save save for the second one. But um Psychomantis was literally a psychic, right? So he could read your mind, read your thoughts, and he went on this whole uh he gives you a whole spiel when you first walk into the room and you meet him, all that kind of stuff, you get the cutscene, and he's like, Oh, and literally what he would do is he would read your memory card, right? And he'd be like, Oh, you're a big fan of Castlevania, I see. You like to play this game and this game. Oh, that's fun. Yeah, it was really cool. And and he'd tell you, and he'd he'd break it down to be like, you know, I can read your every every thought, every movement, what have you. And you know, basically saying, You'll never be able to beat me. So when the when the fight starts, um you as as Solid Snake, you are, you know, you're using your weapons, all that kind of stuff, and you're you you try to shoot him and or go up and try to hit him, and like the game will pause and then it'll come back and he'll be somewhere else, right? Like he you'll never hit him. You'll never hit him. And you spend all this time just going through your dying constantly, because you're like, How the fuck do I beat this guy? So if you were smart enough to figure this out. Most of us, however, had to go through like a tips and tricks or something like that. The way to beat him, you literally had to unplug, you had to pause the game, you had to unplug your controller from port one and put it into port two, and then he couldn't read your movements anymore.
SPEAKER_06:Really?
SPEAKER_01:Is that really how you see that's how you that's how you had to beat Psycho Mancer?
SPEAKER_06:That's insane on a PlayStation. So you who made this game? Hideyoko Jima.
SPEAKER_00:Hide Yoko Jima.
SPEAKER_02:Who's the asshole that did? Dude, that's so crazy. Is it crazy to do that?
SPEAKER_01:Right? Like that, that that mentally scarred a lot of people. It's impossible to beat. Impossible to beat. Once you swap it, he cannot read your movements. And now you're hitting them and you're tagging them. And he's like, What's going on? I can't read your movements anymore. And it's like, oh, like, let me tell you how satisfying that was the moment you find that out, and you're like, now I'm kicking your ass.
SPEAKER_06:Right? You're like gloves off, kids. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:You're cracking your knuckles, your neck, you're like, ah, I've been waiting for this. So it's like, it was really cool. It was really innovative. Because again, on the PlayStation 1, I don't think you had seen anything up to that point prior or really afterward. Like, I don't, and honestly, I don't know how you would do it. Yeah. Metal Gear Solid.
SPEAKER_06:Now everything's connected to Bluetooth, so you can't even have that kind of fun.
SPEAKER_01:It would be difficult to do that. So right? And that's where that's where I think Hideyokojima like turn into Goku when he starts like doing the boxing.
SPEAKER_06:Right. You know what I'm talking about? All right, we good.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, we good. We good now.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I got you, bruh. Now that I'm figured you out, you are in trouble. So I I think that uh that and obviously that is part of the reason why Hideyokojima blew up as a uh as a developer, number one, uh as a game developer, because again, it was innovative, it was something interesting, it was something new because that's true, that's way different. Way different because uh that again, that's something I'd never heard of before or seen since. Because again, it it's hard to do when you have wireless controllers. So you would really have to try you'd really have to think outside of the box at that point. But for what he had to work with, that was awesome. That was just peak, yeah. You know what I mean? Like peak gameplay as a as a gamer, that's immersion at its best. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_06:Like that that in my mind is what gaming is supposed to be. Like when I turn on a game and I'm I'm like put the headphones on, I got the controller or mouse and key. I'm wanting to step into a world, right? Like and be able to interact with said world. Yep. Like that's why I like some of my favorite games to play are games that are like Elden Ring or World of Warcraft or The Witcher, you know, where you can really get lost in the story and these little side missions that can come up, and or Diablo even. Like Diablo has great for like side quest type type shit.
SPEAKER_04:Yep, yep.
SPEAKER_06:So like those are the fun the funnest type of games in my mind. And then there's like straightforward games like correct me if I'm wrong, but like like GT or Forza, where like it's a very like, yeah, very linear game.
SPEAKER_01:Yep, very linear.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, like there's not really side missions, really. I mean, there kind of are like little side races, but for the most part, that's a pretty straightforward, like, okay, we're getting in this car and we're going that way. We drive it. Uh we drive, yeah. Yeah, and like those games are fun, they have their place, but like I I really, really enjoy the when it comes down to like a story mode game that's gonna take me through a journey like a movie. I like games that can do that.
SPEAKER_01:Yes, and that's where that's why I say I I I I appreciate it because like I said, I'm never gonna gatekeep anything. You know how people get, they're like, Oh, well, where were you forever ago? It's like, who cares? You know who fucking cares where they were, who cares? It they they're discovering it now, especially with um, like I said, with the success of Metal Metal Gear Solid Snake Eater Delta. Uh, because literally Delta is it's the exact same game. Because when I first seen the trailer for it and I heard David Hayter's voice as Snake, I was like, Did they get David Hater to come back and voice him? But then I actually like uh because I was kind of half-assed paying attention to the trailer, and then when I actually watched it, I was like, Oh, this is literally like they all they did was take the the skeleton of the game. They it's the exact same thing, they just put new graphics and and added a few extra, you know, added layers to it.
SPEAKER_06:They didn't that's that's what I think a remaster should be. Like, don't don't add new mechanics to the game, right? You know, like you can you can fuck with the graphics and and and maybe the audio in some r regard, like and updating that and making it sharper, but don't fuck with the mechanics.
SPEAKER_01:Now, now I can get behind that to a point because unless you are like Capcom, and this can be a whole new convers this is a whole different conversation. Uh unless you like Capcom because the Resident Evil 2 remake, the Resident Evil 3 remake, and the Resident Evil 4 remake, goddamn. Because I'm gonna tell you right now, nothing like its older counterparts.
SPEAKER_06:But because Resident Evil was like you you you have to now. Did they keep the the movement where if you're running from the zombies and you want to shoot, you had to stop. Nope. You couldn't move and shoot. So you can do that in the remakes.
SPEAKER_01:It is much more fluid. You don't have the fixed cameras anymore. It's literally third person, camera over your shoulder. Okay, I don't mind that, I guess. It's it's not bad, but like it feels especially especially from like okay, so like the PlayStation games with the fixed camera angles. I think the horror was uh was like hearing something in the same room as you, you just couldn't see it yet, right? Until it showed up.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Um with the with the newer Resonate Evil, obviously it the graphics, obviously, huge up uh uh upgrade from that, but it's darker, right? Um they kept the idea of like scarcity as far as ammo goes, depending on the uh difficulty that you went with that you played through. Like if you played through normal, yeah, you'll you there are times where you will run out of ammunition and you're like, I'm in trouble. Yeah, yeah. You know, so you just kind of run around with a knife where it's like, oh shit, I gotta ah, and you're like, you know, exactly, and you're weaving in and out of zombies and you're like, oh my god, and then next thing you know, here comes a licker through the window, and you're like, I'm so screwed. So yeah. So like again, if you're Capcom, they know how to do a remake. They honestly do. But if you're anyone else, the problem is Konami and Kojima are no longer like tight, so they really had no other option but to do a reskin, like the like the way that they did with Delta. Again, they added a few new mechanics, like I like I uh was telling you before. Um like if you if you uh if you get injured uh bad enough, you you wind up getting scars on your body, and that stays throughout the entire game after you bandage yourself up. Um it was really cool playing right and it was it was really neat playing um uh whatchall it through the through Metal Gear Solid 3 the first time because the mechan the the the mechanics to the game that they added were interesting at the time. Like having to keep Snake fed and all that kind of stuff because it's the story of Big Boss before he becomes Big Boss. And he goes in as Naked Snake and he's just like you know, he's going through, he's trying to stop um I'm trying to remember which war it is that he's involved in. But the whole point of uh Metal Gear was to kind of like insert whatever was happening with in like a real world life crisis, because if I'm not mistaken, I think Peacewalker was like the Cold War or something like that, and basically like this was going on behind the scenes while you know what we knew was going on. We didn't hear about what Saw the Snake was doing, right? So it was like it's really interesting how Hideo wrote all that in. But the mechanics of three were interesting to say the least, and of course they had he had another moment that was kind of like Psycho Mantis, but you have uh who was it, the sorrow. Like you're you're going basically through like the river sticks almost in a way, and like all of the the way it worked um in the first one, the the more people you had um eliminated or killed throughout the game, the more souls you had in the sorrow's river that were coming at you. So the less amount of bodies you left throughout the game, the less you had to deal with at that part in the game, right? So that was cool, but it took me forever to find this out. Once you get to the end of the river, uh, or to a certain point, the sorrow basically just murks you one shot. You can't you can't dodge it. He just takes you out, and I'm like, so I just die. And the the problem was like the I didn't notice it for a while, but like I you just die, but the screen never went away. Like there wasn't like a uh game over screen, it wouldn't pop up. You literally have to restart the game. It's almost like the game froze. And I was like, what the actual fuck, right? Come to find out, because there are there's um little revival pills that you can take. You have to open your inventory and you have to take the the the revival pill that like you know, kind of like you have your cyanide pills and you have your revival pills, and then you have to take that to actually like wake Snake up and get him out of that dream state that the sorrow has you in. And I was like, that took me forever to find the fuck out.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And I was like, what the fuck, bro? It was that simple. So when I did it, you know, the cutscene continues on. I'm like, oh shit, that's all that's all there was to it. So again, from the mind of Hideo Kojima Interesting stuff. Again, not something that I've ever nothing that I experienced before in gaming. I think I've experienced it like every now and then in certain games, but that was an interesting mechanic to that game. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_06:Right. That's cool.
SPEAKER_01:Right. So it's like for people to experience it now, I love that. I love the fact that people are now experiencing the greatness that I experienced um for the first time, because they're playing chronologically, they're playing Metal Gear Solid 3 first, then they go through and they play Metal Gear Solid 1, and then 2, and then they play uh 4, which is uh Guns of the Patriots. By far one of my favorite um Metal Gear Solid games was four because of the story, because they're really wrapping up Solid Snake's story really well, because you play through the game as Old Snake, because his his he's a clone, there's a whole story behind it all. I don't know if you decide on if you're going to decide on playing it, so I don't know how much I wanna I wanna give away, especially for listeners and stuff like that. Um but you do play as Old Snake and then kind of really wrap it up really nice. The problem with four that a lot of people had was the cutscenes were incredibly long, and I think I've told you guys this before. The first time I beat it was like a 2 30 in the morning, and the last cut scene that you have is like an hour and a half long, so that's crazy.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, but that's cool though.
SPEAKER_01:It's neat, but your boy fell asleep the first time around.
SPEAKER_02:Oh no, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:I got I got maybe 15 minutes into it, and I was like, it's probably coming coming close to an end, and I'm of course laying in bed, and I'm just like and then well, yeah, I wake up and it's like credits are rolling. I was like, what the fuck? And it's like four o'clock in the morning. I'm like, did it just end?
SPEAKER_02:Also, this yeah.
SPEAKER_01:It's really cool. But the reason behind that, and I think I just kind of want to touch on it, because Hideyokojima is honestly one of my favorites, and people can call me a D-writer, whatever they want to say, but I think his creativity um is sometimes unmatched because before he got into gaming, Hideyokojima wanted to get into filmmaking. He wanted to be a director of some sort and get into movies. Um unfortunately, though, the m the stories he wanted to tell were too epic. They were too grand, right? It he couldn't find a way to condense it down to a digestible hour and a half or two-hour movie, right? So he turned to gaming because he was obviously an artist as well. So that's kinda the best of both worlds, right? So that's kind of why he has these long cutscenes and he directs them all and all that kind of stuff, writes the dialogue, what have you, and really gets into kind of like creating a game that is like a movie because he always wanted to be in filmmaking. So that's a lot of the reason why Kideo Kojima games feel like you're playing a movie. Because that's what he wanted to do. That's cool. It's neat, it it it honestly is. It's a great way to bridge everything, you know, because um in order to be like in art and then into uh directing, all that kind of stuff, it's it's it's really cool. So um I don't know anybody's game plan here in the podcast. Like, do you guys have any interest in playing Metal Gear Solid or just picking it up at all? Um, I know Templeton played the first one. Grizz, you may have played the first one. Would you guys be willing to get into playing Metal Gear Solid?
SPEAKER_06:Absolutely. Yeah, probably. Um I'm very picky on like the kind of games that I start these days just because my time seems so limited sometimes. That's fair. Um but that doesn't exclude like me not being willing to try something new. That's fair. Especially especially if it's good, right? Like, like I never thought I would play The Witcher. And you tried it, and I I I picked up Witcher 3 because I thought it looked cool.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_06:And I played through it and was like, damn, this game's really fucking fun. Like I had a great time playing The Witcher 3. Yeah, it went you can which then like bred this whole thing. Like it was so like okay, so the it came out on Netflix, right? They have the series, and then they did some like anime versions of it, like there's some animated versions. Before that happened, I played The Witcher 3. It wasn't like it wasn't like they made a TV show on Netflix. I watched it and was like, oh, I want to know more about this. Right. I I happened to get on that train right before the the Netflix show came out, so I just beat the game and I was like, damn, this is really cool. And then I found out that the game was actually made from a book series, and I haven't I don't think I own it. Well, I haven't gotten into it, but I want to read the books because like it's it's an epic tale.
SPEAKER_04:Yep.
SPEAKER_06:And then they went and made a TV show, which did a really good job, in my opinion, those first few seasons. I'm nervous on where the direction's gonna go. I'm very nervous. I am going to try it, and I will be very critical because uh there's some there's some word in the street on like Netflix and the the the creative team wanting to like veer off. Yes, and and you know Henry Campbell wasn't cool with that. Yeah, and and I feel like I don't know this man's, but I've I've seen his work, I've seen what he's able to do as Geralt, yeah, as Cal. Yep. You know, like I've seen his work and like he pours everything in. Yep. So like I trust his opinion, even though I don't even know this man's.
SPEAKER_01:Cause the thing is, if you have that much respect for the uh the uh uh source material, yeah, the source material that you're working off of. Especially coming from an actor's perspective, a lot of the times the actors will be like, I'm trying to think of who it was that said, oh, it's the it's the uh uh whoever it is uh playing the new Geralt. He actually said that he didn't want to Yeah, he didn't he didn't want to play the game to figure out how Geralt was, and I'm like, what? Like that do to me that doesn't make sense because you want some kind of background on the character, right? Like I understand making the character your own, but at the same time, you need some sort of background on the character on why he is the way that he is, why he acts the way that he does. So get a little bit in tune with him so you know what's going on, and that's what made Henry Cavill so great at it because he loved the Witcher franchise. He loved the game, he understood the character, he understood the character and why he was the way that he was. So it's like that helps. That helps with with everything that you even if you don't we talk about it all the fucking time, right? Even if you don't tell the exact same story from like the Witcher 3 on whatever, he can go on whatever fucking uh uh uh adventure you want to send Geralt on, and as long as Geralt feels like Geralt, if he feels like the character, we're good. We're uh we're a-okay. You know what I mean? Like, you could take bits and pieces of the game, you could take like okay, uh, whatever uh uh creatures he winds up fighting and being like, okay, we're gonna focus on this guy in this season, and this is what we're gonna do, and we're gonna work our way over here, and send him on whatever adventure you want to, as long as it's still Geralt. And with the Hemsworth brothers saying, you know what, I'm not even gonna do that, that makes me worried. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? That makes me worried for season four. And I still haven't watched season three because I'm like, if I don't watch it, it never ends.
SPEAKER_06:No, season season three, season three is worth watching, and if if that's all we get, if season three is all that was ever good, one through three, yep, then I'll just watch one through three over and over again. Over and over again. Yeah, it's I'm about to trigger a whole group of people for those people that liked Game of Thrones. Ooh, easy now. If instead of hating the last season, instead of instead of hating the last season, I'm gonna put the I'm gonna I'm gonna spit some game right now. I'm gonna put them on. If you liked Game of Thrones and you did not like the last season, don't worry, because you can just watch seasons one through five over and over. He said one through five.
SPEAKER_01:He said one through five. He said after that fifth season, he said after that fifth season, I was done.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, I've actually only seen the first season. I uh give the seasons or seven, there's eight, there's eight in total. Oh fuck me. Yeah, that's what I was like season five. Eight, whatever. I really thought there was only six seasons. No, there's there's eight. Yeah, yeah. Um, I want to watch more. I just after that first season, there was a lot going on in my life at that time. That's fair, and I just didn't have the bandwidth to keep going. Well, guess what? I do I do want to try it again. Guess what? I could I can take my own advice, I could just watch one through seven. Well, okay. Guess what? Real talk. When when would you say you noticed a decline?
SPEAKER_01:So I'm gonna be real with you. I I know a lot of people bitched about how Game of Thrones ended. I know that they were like, they rushed through it, blah blah blah. The they they did a bunch of things, they they they kind of did everything, they did everybody dirty, right? So I was like, okay, that's fair. And this I watched it years after the hype train like took off. So like literally up until that point, all eight seasons were out. They had been out for the longest time. I I want to say it was like maybe a year or two before House of the Dragon came out, is when I actually watched all of Game of Thrones. And when I finished up the entirety of the series, season eight, yes, it was rushed. I will agree with that. I can I can say that you know it it it does it definitely isn't as long, nowhere near as many episodes. So yeah, it does feel does feel rushed. Pacing is off there. How it ended, however, I'm not mad about it. Like I when I got yeah, when I got done with it, I was like, I don't see why everybody was angry. Like I don't see Yeah, I don't I I didn't understand it, but if if it's coming from people that read the books and stuff like that, okay. You know what I mean? Like I I never read the books, so I don't know what it looks like. I don't know what you're comparing to. Um for somebody that is just watching the series for what it is, I don't see the the only problem I could see you complaining about pacing. Sure. Yeah, I can I can see that. I can see that.
SPEAKER_06:But other than that you think some of the hatred was born from like mob mentality? Probably, probably like some people were super passionate about it, others were on the fence, and and then the in-between was like, Yeah, I'm gonna agree with this group of people.
SPEAKER_01:Yep, yep. Because they're like, Yeah, this is why we don't have good stuff anyway, because yeah, this is what you did. Yeah, see yeah, Templeton, exactly. He knows, he knows he knows. So I I I for me personally, I never seen it, I never seen the series start to like take a dive. Like it always kept me invested, right? And and part of me, yes, felt like season I feel like season eight could have been longer, and I wish it was. Yeah, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_06:Like uh because that you could have you could that way with the last season of uh Arrow.
SPEAKER_01:See, I never watched Arrow.
SPEAKER_06:Oh man, I that was my favorite of the CW superheroes. Like I thought the flash was a little cheesy, and I tried to uh I tried to justify it by like, oh well the flash is a cheesy character, uh but it like they really poured on the cheddar, bro. Like it was pretty extra cheddar. Like they took us back to the goofy movie, bro. They're like the cheesy the cheddar, yeah, the leaning tower of cheeser.
SPEAKER_02:No, what what do you what'd you say, Templeton? You have failed the city, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:You have failed the city.
SPEAKER_06:So like honestly, the arrow, Green Arrow is you know, like uh he's so similar to Batman, right? You know, they have a very similar uh origin story in a way. Um rich rich background parents died young type shit.
SPEAKER_02:Don't tell don't say anything about my parents.
SPEAKER_06:I'm still not a member, Bruce.
SPEAKER_01:It happened years ago, and I don't want to talk about it.
SPEAKER_06:You know, like why did you say Martha?
SPEAKER_01:Are we back here? Are we back here? Why did you say that name?
SPEAKER_02:Because that's my mom's name. No, why did that's my mom's name?
SPEAKER_06:No, did we just become best friends? Yep.
SPEAKER_01:Let me tell you about my best friend. Now they're like, let's fight crime together. Uh that was I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_06:I thought the arrow was great. You just pissed off all the Snyder fans. I know, I know. They're gonna get us too. They're gonna dude. They're ruthless. Snyder fans are like super ruthless.
SPEAKER_01:Bro, they're ruthless.
SPEAKER_02:They might be the same people. They could be.
SPEAKER_01:Like, don't talk about Snyder or Swift. Do you understand me? Oh shit. SS. We gotta stop talking.
SPEAKER_02:We gotta we gotta do it. We're not doing this. We're not doing this. We're not doing this. We're not calling right. We're not creating something out of nothing, okay? All right, moving on.
SPEAKER_01:Son of a I'm I'm so mad at myself for making that correlation.
SPEAKER_02:It is now, it is now, because I swear to God, if there's if there's any kind of conspiracy theorists listening right now, they're gonna be like, dude, that's it.
SPEAKER_06:I never saw it, but now we're sleeping.
SPEAKER_02:Exactly. It was so simple, it was in our face the whole time.
SPEAKER_01:I'm I'm worried. I'm worried. I'm concerned. Right in front of us, under our noses, Snyder and Swift. What are we doing? I'm sorry, I'm sorry, and they were shogun or some shit. Yeah, no shit. I hate it here. Um, but no, what the fuck were we talking about before we got totally sidetracked?
SPEAKER_06:Oh, dude, we went down a rabbit hole. Yeah, we did. We were talking about storytelling with video games, yes, and how it's really cool when video games like Metal Gear um use an opportunity to be uh more like a movie and bit like that.
SPEAKER_01:Yes, and and and I know we were talking about Hideo Kojima, which again, if you guys do plan on playing Metal Gear Solid, I do recommend it. I highly recommend it because it's a great game. It is, it's it's a fantastic game. Metal Gear Solid 1, 2, 3, 4. Um, even Rising Revengeance, which is more so a side story that follows Raiden, who in two in Metal Gear Solid 2, you will absolutely hate that guy because he is the biggest baby back bitch from the start of the game to the end. I'm sorry, be mad, be mad, but literally from start to finish, this man is nothing but a baby back bitch. And I'm like, oh my god, I gave up Snake for this, absolutely fucking not. Oh my goodness, baby back bitch, like that's that's exactly who he was, and I was like, Oh, I don't like this at all. And then when we got back to Snake, I was like, Oh, thank you, Jesus. But then when they introduced reintroduced Raiden in four, you're like, okay, this is what he should have been all along, and then rising revenge follows him. Oh, big time, he has the biggest glow up from two to four. You like he's waiting clock it. So yeah, no, but legitimately he has the biggest glow up from two to four, and then after four, in between in between four and what, I think five, they made um rising revengeance, which is fucking amazing because they they changed the formula of the game, which is tactical espionage uh action, right? Where you're where you know, because me and my me and Yeti always got into uh debates about who was better, which is why I want to watch to go off on a little side note, which is why I want to watch the Splinter Cell anime, because um other yeah, Yeti I have one episode left.
SPEAKER_06:I watched the seven episodes yesterday, and so far so good and a half. I I did four episodes before work, yep, and three episodes after work, and I was like, I'm gonna save the last episode for the morning because it was like coming up on like one, two a.m. and I was like, I should go to bed. So I'm gonna watch it later today. I'm gonna watch the last episode. Okay, I'm enjoying it, bro. Okay. So without saying anything too much, have you you've played Splinter Cell, right?
SPEAKER_01:I've I've I've dabbled in Splinter Cell. I haven't followed Splinter Cell like crazy, though.
SPEAKER_06:Like, so I only remember there's probably more than one game. Um I'm not gonna lie. I I really only remember the first one, which was like the Xbox OG, like with the big ass fucking controller that's like the size of my head. Jesus Christ. Which, which, not gonna lie, I didn't hate, but I got big little grizzly bear. Yeah, see, that's the difference. I feel like that big controller like felt like it belonged in my hand.
SPEAKER_01:That controller.
SPEAKER_06:That would be a steering wheel controller, bro.
SPEAKER_01:That controller. That's so funny. I hated that controller so fucking much. Everything about the first Xbox was just big. And I was like, why? Why did they do that? It was, bro. It was big console, big controller, no, but I'm glad to hear because I'm big. So like No, I get it, I get it. You're a big guy, but no, I'm glad to hear that that the anime for Splinter Cell is doing well because me and Yitty used to always enjoy it. We used to always go back and forth, like, who was the who was the better tactic tactical espionage character? Was it Solid Snake or was it Sam Fisher, right? Like we would we would always have the arguments because he played Splinter Cell like crazy. I played Metal Gear, and I'm like, bruh, this is the father of tactical espionage action. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_06:I feel like I feel like Metal Gear walked so Splinter Cell could run. Exactly. Right, yes, yes, that's that's that's what happened. So, like what I did do is I did play that first Splinter Cell game a lot. Yeah, and when you talk about Metal Gear, I think about Splinter Cell. Because they are the s I don't want to the same game. They're virtually almost yeah, they're almost the same game. Almost. It's the same idea. Yes. Right? It's the same concept. Yes. One of them is executed much differently than the other. One of them, you can make the argument, and I I'll go ahead and probably agree. Metal Gear probably is more detailed, um, you know, with like with with just the overarching story. Yes. I don't know that they've put that much thought into Splinter Cell. Oh, hell no. However, Tom Clancy, like, was it Splinter Cell born from a book?
SPEAKER_01:Yes. Tom Tom Clancy, Tom Clancy, because uh what which one? What's up? No, I was a green. Oh, okay. Yeah. But no, um Tom Tom Clancy has had like, especially like Rainbow Six, like since PC era.
SPEAKER_06:Like Wayne's great franchise, by the way. Great franchise, yes, under underrated franchise. Yes, Rainbow Six is because Call of Duty is kind of like runs alongside and then and then Battlefield on the other side. Yeah, I think Rainbow Six kind of gets a little lost in the sauce. Like it's a good fucking series.
SPEAKER_01:It is, it is a it is a fantastic series, and uh, and honestly, I do want to try out Siege. Like, I do. I I want to try out Siege and see what it's all about. I don't think I've played Siege and I have not.
SPEAKER_06:What was the one that was out almost 10 years ago? Like the big one that was like seven years ago. Maybe. Because it was like around like when Modern Warfare and Modern Warfare 2, like when those were out, like there was a Rainbow Six game that I can't remember.
SPEAKER_01:Because we have Siege 1, Siege 2.
SPEAKER_06:Those are the most recent ones, right?
SPEAKER_01:I don't remember when the first siege came out. You know what? We have a supercomputer right here in front of us. Hang on.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, mine's plugged in over there, charging.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, hang on. Rainbow Six Siege. Let's see. Let's see when Siege.
SPEAKER_06:While you're Googling that. Yes.
SPEAKER_01:Analyzing. Oh, so it probably was Siege because see the first Siege came out December 1st of 2015. Okay.
SPEAKER_06:So it's probably I I think I've played that one. But there's a new one, right?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, there's Siege 2. I don't know when that came out.
SPEAKER_06:Um, isn't there one that's like Rainbow Six Vegas? Was that a one?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was that was uh the one I played the most. Yeah, that was that was on the uh the 360 days because Yeti played Yeti played Vegas.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, Rainbow Six Vegas I played a lot of because I was playing a lot of COD, and the the guys that I played Call of Duty with, we all kind of got a little burnout on it. Okay and Vegas came out and it was like because we really liked the search and destroy aspect, and Rainbow Six is one of those games that does it really well. Yes. With like this siege siege and destroy siege and destroy. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Um I remember playing a lot of Vegas 2. I do I do remember playing a lot of Vegas 2.
SPEAKER_06:I do. Yeah, yeah, those that was good, that was a great franchise. But uh to to bounce back um to like the Splinter Cell um Metal Gear conversation. Um I do think that they are very, very similar. And for sure. It's hard to it's hard to it's hard it's hard for me to say which one is better, which kind of goes back to our earlier conversation of like um like what is there good and bad art? You know, it's relative. Yeah, it's a big yeah, and it's I feel like if you're a a Sony person, Metal Gear is probably gonna be your vibe. And if you're a Microsoft person, the bonus cell is probably gonna be more your vibe.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_06:And if you were if you had both, then you probably you probably have a hard time picking a favorite, or whichever console you are more comfortable with is probably the game you think is better. Yeah, I could I could see that. Because I think story story-wise, both phenomenal. Yeah, both are solid. Yeah, yeah, both are solid as far as it's not. Pun intended, pun intended, pun intended.
SPEAKER_01:No, but they they are like as far as this their respective stories, they are solid stories. I can't solid stories. God damn it. Um, but uh it it it was just really fun the back and forth that me and Yeti would have growing up because you know did you play any of the Sunner Cells? I did, like, like because he had after after the PS2 when that when the 360 showed up, because I don't think I don't think Yeti ever owned it and owned an Xbox. I had the first Xbox, I did have that later on in life, because I had I think it was around maybe the PS, I think I had the PS3 and the Xbox at the same time because I wanted to play Doom 3 really bad, and I was like, I I got the Xbox solely for that reason, and then I wound up getting other games for it, and but when Yeti wound up getting the 360, he never looked back, and he played a lot of the Splinter Cells, and he'd be like, You want to try it out? I'm like, Yeah, I'll I'll try it out. The one thing I disliked about it, and I'm sure if I actually took the time to like get invested into uh Splinter Cell and how the game is played, is you get caught, and that's the end of the mission, right? Like you're like, Oh no, the mission's failed. You can play it out, right? But Metal Gear, I'm like, if I get caught, I can shoot motherfuckers and disappear, right? And everybody's like, Where did they where did the guy go? You know what I'm saying? So it's like like you said, I see I do like right. I can play it out.
SPEAKER_06:I like being able to play it out, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:You and you get to choose. Can I go stealth? I can either go stealthy or I can go loud. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Just fuck it. Here we go. Yeah.
SPEAKER_06:So I will say this like with the anime on Netflix, um, because this doesn't give anything away. There are obviously like the whole idea is like stealthy missions, right? Correct, yes, but like within like a few of the episodes, there's like an objective, and they're trying to do it under the radar. Yep. And like they still don't get a hundred percent caught, but like the the enemy knows that they're there, correct, right? Yeah, and so like I wonder if his thing I don't I was having a connection issue earlier. I don't know if you noticed, but like my connection.
SPEAKER_01:No, yeah, yeah, yeah. Every every now and then you'd kind of freeze up a little bit. Hopefully he comes back in.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah. Uh but uh I so like in the in the Splinter Cell show, like there was times when like the character kind of like almost gets caught, but then they're able they're able to like play it out, so to speak. Right. Um, and then they're not like totally caught. So like I think I feel like that is I don't like that the Splinter Cell game removes that from the equation. Like if you get caught and you have to restart the mission. Right. I understand it to a degree of like um like that's the way they want the story to be told.
SPEAKER_01:Correct.
SPEAKER_06:But I think it would be cooler to to allow a little bit more flexibility and freedom, and then you can create like achievements. Like, did you 100% stealth the game? Right. Or did you you know 60% stealth the game or whatever?
SPEAKER_01:See, and maybe, possibly, maybe, um, they were like, we don't want to feel like or look like a Metal Gear ripoff because at the that could be it. At the end of Metal Gear Solid, depending on how you played the game, you do get achievements. Like you'd get medals, like you're awarded, like, you know, oh, the bear because you crawled majority of the game, or the snake medal because uh you were you were you were prone a lot of the game or something like that. Yeah, yeah. Like like every metal gear solid game that I ever played at the end of it, you would always get those. And you could unlock all of them, and it would unlock certain like different things, like you get a bandana for snake where you could do uh if you wore it throughout the game, you'd have unlimited ammo, but it would affect your uh score at the end of the game. You know what I'm saying? So it was cool shit like that that made Metal Gear Solid what it was, and I and that could possibly play into why Splinter Cell felt so limited, is because if they did do that, do they are they looked at as you know the cheap knockoff of Metal Gear Solid?
SPEAKER_06:Right, the copycat.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, so I could could that have played a role in it? Yeah, I I I never thought of it until now. You know what I mean? As they always say, uh hindsight is 2020. So could it have been sure, but is could there have possibly been a way to do it and stay in their own lane? I think so.
SPEAKER_06:Hey, I have a random ass question, but it's kind of fitting for this conversation. Yes, because okay, with with the potential success, we'll call it, because like the Splinter Cell thing, uh anime is I'm I'm pretty sure brand new. Yep. I didn't see that like last week. Nope, just kidding. Um, I literally turned on Netflix yesterday and was like, what is this? Splinter Cell as an anime, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was like, I'm fucking watching this. Yeah, bet because I like using Netflix for um that boxing anime, Epoch.
SPEAKER_01:I've yet to watch that.
SPEAKER_06:Very much having a great time.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I need to check that out.
SPEAKER_06:Especially if you're a fan of boxing. Like, I'm not I'm not a fan of boxing in the sense of like I know all the current boxers um paying attention to like the championship title, shit like that. I'm not that type of fan. I'm a very, very low entry-level leisure boxing appreciator uh uh appreciator.
SPEAKER_04:Yep.
SPEAKER_06:I just like watching fights. I'm a guy who's you know, default guy energy, just like sports like watching fights. Yeah, exactly. Um, probably the same reason why I'm naturally interested in hockey and football and rugby.
SPEAKER_01:I love I love watching hockey, man.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, yeah, hockey's great. Yeah, they let you fight. So I logged on Netflix yesterday to watch some epo before work, and I saw that Splinter Cell like right in my face, and I was like, yep, this is what I'm doing. And I have not looked back, I have not regretted any of it. It's it's it's a good time. Yeah, that's good. So my question is do you think with the potential success of the Splinter Cell anime, would uh how do you say the name of the guy who created Metal Gear?
SPEAKER_01:Hideyoko Jima.
SPEAKER_06:Hideyokojima, do you think that if he is paying attention, or who knows, maybe he's already working on this in the background. I'm not really into it.
SPEAKER_01:I want I want I want you to uh go ahead and ask your question.
SPEAKER_06:I can I can Yeah. Do you do you think that there is a potential opportunity for them to make a Metal Gear anime or series in some capacity, whether it be live action or animated?
SPEAKER_01:So there has been a lot of talk about Metal Gear Solid becoming a live action adaptation. David Hayter was on board to do it all. Um there were some very, very early concept uh artwork done like years ago. And when I say years ago, it was a long fucking time ago. I want to say around the time the PS3 was phasing out into the PS4 was when we got all that. Yeah. So it's been some time. Um will that ever come to fruition? I doubt it, because Hideo, Kojima, and Konami had a very, very bad breakup. Like literally Konami. Konami creator, yes, they are the they are the developer that basically Kojima was like partnered with or employed with at the time.
SPEAKER_06:I wonder what the rights are with this with the IP.
SPEAKER_01:Unfortunately, Konima has that. It's all Konima IP. Yeah, unfortunately. Damn. Yes, yes. Now, the ideas are Kojima's, but the IP belongs to Konami. And the reason. Okay, so this is where this is where I'm gonna say Death Stranding is really cool because that is a so Hideo Kojima split with Konami. Uh Metal Gear Solid 5, they went ahead and finished that out, but they completed it. Without him? Without him. They did I mean he he he pretty much played it? Yes, he pin he pretty much finished it out. It's amazing. Like I love the game. The problem the problem they did that that that I had with it was I think he I think they had the falling out before he actually like finished the game completely. And the end of that game makes zero sense, but they tie it up in an hour and a half long movie that was separate with the game. So I think yeah, I think Konami was kind of like, fuck, we lost our we lost our golden goose, so now we have to utilize, you know, what he had to wrap up the story um without him. So that's what they did, and they what they tried to do after they finished Metal Gear Solid 5 was they tried to do some sort of online bullshit which was like Metal Gear Survive or something like that, and it flopped. It flopped bigger than shit because Hideo Kojima was no longer part of Konami. So Konami was trying to keep Metal Gear alive and completely failed at that. So Kojima leaves and he opens his own studio, Kojima Productions, and winds up responding to Metal Gear Solid 5 essentially with Death Stranding. Oh yes, yeah.
SPEAKER_06:I didn't realize he made Death Stranding.
SPEAKER_01:Yes, uh Death Stranding, Death Stranding 2, which Death Stranding 2, bro, it's the courier game, right?
SPEAKER_06:With Norman Reedus?
SPEAKER_01:Yes, and when I tell you Death Stranding 2 has so many Metal Gear Easter eggs, it's not even funny. If you play the first Metal Gear Solid, um, and you get to Metal Metal Gear Rex, which is the basically the uh the giant walking uh nuclear uh warhead launching fucking thing that they create, uh the head of Metal Gear Rex is the ship in Death Stranding 2. That's cool. That's really cool. Like the moment it popped up, I was like, Metal Gear.
SPEAKER_02:It's like what? I was like, wait a minute.
SPEAKER_01:And then like the guy you fight every now and then, like every every so often, you wind up fighting him in um in uh uh uh uh wherever the fuck that they that they wind up in. He always ties a bandana around his head, and the way his character is designed, the moment he puts that bandana on, I was like solid snake. Immediately, I was like, he looks just dead on the guy. So I'm like the moment I seen it, I was like, Konami, just give the man his fucking IP. Like to him, you know what I'm saying? Like that's his yeah, cause because at this point, he's basically he's shitting on you at this point. Because I was like, no, no shot, Konami has an answer for this.
SPEAKER_06:Give him the rights back, and then they can get like a royalty from whatever happens.
SPEAKER_01:Something work something out with the man, but from my understanding, it was a very ugly breakup, and I don't think uh Kojima or Konami want anything to do with each other, and it kind of sucks because at that point I don't think we're gonna get anything else Metal Gear related, and that hurts me in my soul.
SPEAKER_06:Well, what I think they could do, it's gonna suck for uh um not Konami. Kojima Kojima, yep, yeah, it's gonna suck for Kojima, but I could see I could see Konami watching the success success, excuse me, of Splinter Cells anime. I could see them maybe working with a studio to spit out because they own the IP, right? Yep, so they could just find an animation studio and the animation studio will likely have writers and directors. So they could put together like they could write a story with the existing stuff that he's already created for them. They don't need to come out and make something new, no, or they they could they could make something new using the pre existing stuff, which is kind of what Splinter Cell has done. Right. The Sam Fisher, old man. Yep, like like he he's still in the like he's in the anime, but he's old and gray. And like there is a he's he I guess you can call him a main character, he's part of the main cast. Okay. But I don't necessarily think that well, no, the the the overarching story does still very much include him as a main character. But there's other main characters, right? Right. And he's a he it it it feels like if they do like a second season, like they might uh move on from him, but like this this is very much like his I think it's his story, and there's just other people kind of like in place. Yep, kind of like let yeah, that that way we can close his chapter and then and then uh go on from there. I I don't know if that's what will happen, but I could see that being a potential.
SPEAKER_01:I don't know. Regardless, it hurts, it hurts my soul as a Metal Gear fan because like I said, that's the reason why we anime would be sick, dude. It would be it, it it would be absolutely dope. I would be stoked. Like I 110, I'd watch it. I would watch it hands down. I would have an issue. Are there any comics? I don't know. I'd have to I'd have to look into that. I would I would venture to say there's probably spam comics. I I would love to.
SPEAKER_06:If it just spam Konami, yeah, hey, hey, check this out.
SPEAKER_01:Check this out. Check this out, check this out. Read this comic, read this comic. Give Kojima his IP. So I that would be rude, right?
SPEAKER_06:Um, but no, I They didn't make comics just just to be like, hey, give him his shit back.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, give him his shit back. Come on, give him a shit back. But no, uh, because I want to say I think it was last month, something like that. It was shortly after Death Stranding 2 released. Uh Kojima, I guess, was bored on a random Tuesday and dropped all kinds of new shit on us. We have a Death Stranding movie coming out. It doesn't follow, yeah, it doesn't follow the main character of the game, but like there will be elements.
SPEAKER_06:Like for real movies?
SPEAKER_01:Yes, like a movie movie, like it's an an it'll and it'll be animated, but it is a whole movie. It's a whole movie movie, like hour and a half, two-hour movie.
SPEAKER_06:He let go of Metal Gear in a way.
SPEAKER_01:In a way, yes. He's accepted the idea that he he's not gonna get it.
SPEAKER_06:Like he's still using parts of it, but he's like, All right, whatever. Yeah, I got my own studio now. Watch this. Yeah, check this shit out.
SPEAKER_01:Because I'm gonna I'm gonna utilize what what I created, right? And I'm gonna make it ten times better. That's why I'm like, he's shitting on Konami at this point. And and I know he's got a new game coming out, I think it's called Phizzant or something like that, which in the title is says something about tactical espionage action. So I think that's his thing, huh? Yeah, and I think he's gonna kind of let it go. Because to be fair, he does do um horror games as well. Because what's a big horror game he's done? So Silent Hill. Oh, okay. So the when the PS4 came out, it originally came out with the um when I think at launch with the PS4, it was it was a uh it was a small short game that was called PT. And you could only download it. It was only a digital download, and it was very limited because I want to say it was like one of the very last things that he was doing with Konami. And from what I heard, it is one of the scariest games ever made. And I mean it was it was a very short game, but the it was for what they had, and it was kind of like a pretelling to I I want to say like Silent uh a new Silent Hill, like a remake of Silent Hill, and it was kind of like supposed to be a prequel or precursor to what the game what was gonna lead up to what happens in the game. And unfortunately, Konami shelved it after they had their falling out with Kojima. And so they pulled it, yeah. They pulled it from they pulled it from the uh from uh the PlayStation Network, and you will never get it again. So those that downloaded it, if you have it, keep it because it'll never resurface. It'll never ever resurface.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:That's kind of shitty. It's kind of shitty. I missed it. I missed out on it, and I'm pissed. I'm like, I I wanted to try it so bad.
SPEAKER_06:Do you think that there's a way to find it online? Like, I'm sure some nerd is gonna like you probably could simulator.
SPEAKER_01:You probably could. So the so there's a game out called Visage that I played that somebody actually took the concept of PT and basically said, This is what it would have looked like if they finished the game from start to finish. And I will say it was one of the most terrifying games I ever played. Damn. Yeah, I mean, like, like there was like I and this is when I was playing it on my big screen over there with surround sound and everything. And there was a moment in there where so like it's a linear story, you're only you're stuck in one house, right? And and the opening is already fucked up enough because it literally opens where you're sitting in a basement and you hear this woman crying, and and next thing you know, the guy's waking up kind of fuzzy, and then there's a gun sitting there, and then he just like literally grabs it, bow, screen goes black. I'm like, did I just off myself like that quickly? I was like, oh my god. And then you wake up in the house, like in in like uh in like the attic or a bathroom or something, and it's like you're basically just waking up and you're like going through the house and you're like, oh, normal house, right? No, incorrect, like random paranormal activity happens, like basically basically like you don't want to be in the dark too long because your health bar is like like how crazy you're gonna go.
SPEAKER_06:Um you have to like go psycho.
SPEAKER_01:Yes, you can go crazy. So that's pretty cool. It's it it was a it's a really fun game, but absolutely terrifying. But you have to turn you have to keep the lights on in the house in order to not go crazy, right? But the problem is every now and then the random paranormal activity would shut the lights off on you, and you would hear it, you hear the click, and you're like, fuck. So you had to run, you know, you have to run and click the light on. Yeah, you're like you son of you son of a bitch. But there was a moment where because the the way it was, the way the game worked, you a lot of crazy shit happened in this house, and you're basically trying to like uncover the mysteries of everything that happened like every murder that happened, you're trying to uncover why it happened, who did it, all that kind of shit. And then so you just kind of go to each um each room has like you know, you you'll pick up a letter and you'll read it, and then it's like, do you want to start this mission? Okay, yeah, start the mission. And there's a mission that takes you to one of the kids' room, creepy enough as it is, right? And I had just turned the light on, and I went through to the uh to the back end, and I'm just clicking everything to search it all, because you can search pretty much everything, open drawers, all that kind of stuff, and I picked up one of the drawings, and the drawing showed the closet which is behind you, and it shows like this dark entity, and it goes and it says knock knock, and it's like basically like evil, evil, right? And I'm sitting there and I put it down, and then next thing I know, it's like knock knock, and I was like, No. Now, mind you, I turn the light on, right? And I hear the click, and I'm like, fuck. So of course I turned I turned around, I was gonna go turn the light on and the closet door. I never paused the game so fast. Grizz, it was like three o'clock in the afternoon. I never paused the game so fast, I was like, I'm done for the day. I'm leaving because I was like, we're gonna stay right here and I'm gonna go do stuff. I literally left the house for the entire day and then came back. I was like, all right, let me try this again because that shit had me so good. I was like, no shot. Yeah. So it's so funny. Yeah, and and I did that for a spooky game uh season once upon a time during October, and my my god. My god. So um, but yeah, it it he's he's he announced a lot of stuff, a lot of projects that he's working on. So it in a way it kind of gives me the idea that he's letting go of everything that he had with Konami and just starting his own shit, which I'm good with, you know what I mean? I'm good with because four really does tie up Solid Snake's story very nicely. Solid Snake and Liquid Snake, and and and you get you get a good send-off for both of them. So I'm not upset about it, I'm interested in seeing where it goes. Um, but I know that we are definitely over time. Um, so I want to wrap this up with saying Hideo Kojima was definitely he made his mark in gaming, and it's it's innovation like that that sometimes I feel like we're missing in nowadays in games. Yes, it's a little it's a little trickier to do, but like like like I said with Metal Gear Solid 1, you know, you gotta switch from port one to port two. You can't do that anymore. So what's the alternative? How do you make it you know what I mean? How do you make it that immersive or that challenging in a way or what have you? Um innovation is gonna take something else instead of just always focusing on how can I get the graphics to look as real as possible.
SPEAKER_06:That's true. I feel like that's been the focus in gaming for a little bit is like how do we make this look as real as possible? And yeah, that's cool to a degree, but I don't I don't I don't think that should be the focus. Because we don't come back to the big picture, maybe, but the focus should be like how do we make this more enjoyable?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, entertaining, how do we make it fun to play? Because they don't people don't go to gaming.
SPEAKER_06:There's like a healthy amount of challenge too, yeah, right? Like I think sometimes people, especially it seems that way these da this day and age, I could be wrong, but it is just from where I'm standing and what I'm observing. I think that uh the way we have made the world so automated and easy that people kind of fear challenge a little bit. Um not everybody, uh, I know there's probably somebody listening, like I'm I still challenge myself. Hey, I'm not talking about you. Right. And this doesn't go out of general, yeah. Yeah, yeah. If it don't hit you, let it go by. Right. But um I think that in general, it feels like this society, the culture of today's society, this modern society, is people don't want to be challenged, or or the people making things don't think we want to be challenged. Yeah, um, so they make things easier. And I don't know, man, when I played Elden Ring for the first time, that was the first time I ever played a souls like game. And that shit was challenging.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I was gonna say, how was it for you?
SPEAKER_06:Because I've never It was hard, dude. It took me forever to beat that game. Yeah, like I'm talking like I played it for like weeks on end and then took breaks. Like, I like I'm not gonna play this game for a week, like I'm mad at this shit, you know. Like I hate this game. I need to I need to take a break. I gotta I gotta rethink my life choices, right?
SPEAKER_00:Right, right.
SPEAKER_06:And and and I mean it made me a better gamer because of it, like it makes you a better thinker. Yes, and that's the other side of the coin, is like critically thinking is fucking out the window right now verbally, for sure, at least nationally.
SPEAKER_01:Uh yeah, we so like apparently a lot of people missed a train on that one. I don't know how they did it.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, yeah. Like if it's not Candy Crush or fucking Fruit Ninja, people don't want to do it. It seems like you remember Fruit Ninja, dude. That was a deep that was a deep cut. Pun intended, pun intended. Exactly. Well, I'll get off my high horse now, but I think that games should be more challenging or make us think more. I I I agree. It's puzzles, it's puzzles.
SPEAKER_01:Gaming is puzzling, yes, and that's and that's immersive puzzles. Right, and that's what I think I feel like a lot of that is missing, like especially especially in the gaming world. Like that don't get me wrong, there are games out there that you know can be challenging. But the problem is Oh, it has to it, it's only it's only souls like games that have to be like that. No, no, it's not. Like you could literally do it in any game. You know, Resident Evil.
SPEAKER_06:The last of us is a good game to look at. Like, that's a hard game.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it it definitely can be. Uh uh.
SPEAKER_06:But you could put it on easy mode, but I'm saying like that's in normal. I was playing it in normal, and it's it's not an easy game in normal. Yeah, you can make it easy by putting it in beginner or story mode or whatever. Casual. Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:So no, and that's what I'm saying. Uh, it doesn't just have to be a Souls-like game to be challenging. Like I said, Resident Evil, that's not Souls like in the least bit, but it used to have those puzzles that made you, you know, think about okay, I need this, I need this. Oh, what I whoa, how do I how do I right?
SPEAKER_06:Zelda's not hard when it comes to like the NPCs. Zelda's hard at be when it comes to the puzzles. Yes, because they don't figuring solving the puzzle, right?
SPEAKER_01:Because they don't hold your hand.
SPEAKER_06:Figuring the level, yeah, going through it all. You kind of have to do some I do I do kind of get a little miffed by the like there's no fucking explanation.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_06:You know, because like that's how Elden Ring was. You you walk out onto the the fucking you get through like the beginning part, and you don't even know you're in the beginning part, aside from the part where it's like you're in the beginning part. Yeah. But you know, you you like step out and you just get slaughtered by like the first mini boss, and you're like, I was gonna say to you take the wrong turn. Yeah, what am I doing here? I just got here. Yeah, how did I get there? And it's almost like there's no it's almost like there's no way of beating that first boss. Yep. There is, there is a way, but like it's it feels a little cheaty. Yeah, you know, yeah, like a little bit, like you gotta like and I'm like, is that the only way to beat the boss? Because I watch this video, and this guy like kind of climbs this tree and like gets to where like the creature can't hit you, and then you're just spamming arrows at it. And I'm like, that can't be the only way. Can't be the only way, can't be the only way, no, and then and then somebody will yell at you to make you lose.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and I think it's designed to make you lose, and then somebody, and then somebody out there would be like, it's a skill issue. And I'm like, man, whatever. Call it what it call it what you will. I'm just trying I'm just trying to game over here, right? Like, yeah, right. Golly, golly, but nah, um, in closing, uh Hideo. I'm I'm looking forward to everything that you that you're gonna bless us with because if you get an opportunity, check out the trailer for the Death Stranding movie. It looks absolutely fucking crazy. I cannot wait.
SPEAKER_06:Hell yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Um, but yeah, it like I said, his innovation, it's what it Metal Gear Solid, the first one, is practically what launched his career. Well, him in the stardom. Obviously, he had a career before that, but but he definitely took off after Metal Metal Gear Solid, um, and how how innovative that was with what he had to work with with the first PlayStation. It was limited, but he was capable of doing so many things, and that's why I'm like, uh is that what developers are missing nowadays? Can we can we go back to that? Like, how do we how do we get back to that instead of worrying about our frame rate and and how many hertz my screen is, you know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, yeah. Let's get back to what gaming used to be. So I know we're way over time, so we'll get we'll try to burn through these next few. Um we're gonna do a quick fun and games because Templeton, I guess, couldn't get back in. Um, it's just us two, but I'm gonna ask you to give me your favorite famous dog and it cannot be Scooby-Doo.
SPEAKER_06:Hmm.
SPEAKER_01:Favorite famous dog, favorite, famous dog, and it cannot be Scooby-Doo. Crypto. That's a good one. I'm gonna go with Courage. Ooh, that's a great one.
SPEAKER_06:That's a great one. Hey, did I ever tell you I met the voice of courage?
SPEAKER_01:Did you really?
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, at a Comic Con. I drew a little courage and gave it to him. He was so nice. I can't. His name's Marty. Yeah, his name's Marty. He's so nice, and he sounds just like the motherfucker. Yeah, I can't. I mean, of course.
SPEAKER_01:Makes sense.
SPEAKER_06:That was so stupid.
SPEAKER_01:I loved I loved Courage growing up. He is absolutely one of my favorite, one of my favorite cartoon dogs.
SPEAKER_06:I'm disappointed that I didn't even think of courage.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, Courage, the Cowerly Dog, immediately. That's it like it's a solid series. Right, right. You know what made me sad is that Courage is no longer streaming anywhere. You cannot find Courage Cowly Dog anywhere. What it's officially pulled off of literally everything, and that I'm I'm upset.
SPEAKER_06:That makes me want to buy the DVDs, yeah. Physical media collection, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, because now now you can't find it anywhere. So that that makes me kind of sad. But like I said, I kind of want to go through this real quick because I know we are way over time. Um, but if you are listening, uh fire off in the comments. Who is your favorite famous dog? Save for Scooby-Doo. We all know Scooby-Doo is everybody's favorite, right? Like almost default, but there are other famous dogs out there. Maybe Astro from the Jetsons. Would Dino be considered a dog?
SPEAKER_06:Dino, Dino from the Flintstones? Close enough.
SPEAKER_01:Kind of sort of dog-like, yeah, yeah. Dog-shaped. Yeah. Dog shaped. If not dog white, dog shape. Maybe like Odie, you know, maybe like Odie who gets kicked around by Garfield all the time. I don't know. Yeah. You tell you tell me who your uh favorite famous dog is that's not Scooby-Doo. Um last but certainly not least, are you ready for a fun fat Grizz since it's just me and you? I am ready. Hit me with it. Okay. I don't want to hit you with it, but did gently place it in my lap. Gently tap me with it.
SPEAKER_00:Did you no?
SPEAKER_01:That earlobes have no biological purpose. Allegedly. Huh.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah. I mean, they seem like a pla a perfect place to put jewelry, though.
SPEAKER_01:Uh well, I mean, that maybe that's the only purpose it has, but I'm sure I'm sure you have some questions. Uh, but earlobes are pretty much useless. Here's why we evolved them. Uh they probably don't help you hear better. But earlobes may seem like a simple, often overlooked part of our anatomy, but they serve a few interesting purposes. Some people think earlobes improve our ability to to detect sound because the fleshy lower part of the ear uh helps to funnel sound waves into the ear canal. Uh, but other scientists argue that uh they don't have any true biological purpose. What we do know is that earlobes are rich in nerve endings, making them sensitive to touch. Uh, this may play a role in social bonding and communication through physical contact, such as gentle touches or pulling in certain uh cultural practices. While earlobes don't have a critical function like some other body parts, they have cultural significance in many societies. They are often adorned with jewelry, as you said, and are involved in traditional practices, uh practices like ear stretching or piercing. So, while their role in uh physiology might be modest, their contribution to human expression and culture is significant. So there you have it. There you have it. Earlobes may not really have a huge function, but they are functional.
SPEAKER_06:Yes, we found a purpose for it.
SPEAKER_01:Jewelry earrings and just putting big old holes in it, you know, like gauging ears and all that kind of stuff. Are your ears gauged?
SPEAKER_06:No, I actually do want to get piercings though. I I don't have I just have my nose pierced. I I've always wanted to get my ears pierced.
SPEAKER_05:Yep.
SPEAKER_06:Like when I was when I was a teenager and like skated a lot then. I skate now, but you know what I mean.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_06:Um, I always wanted I always wanted to get um my ears pierced because a lot of the people that I hung out with had it, but like I came from a pretty religious, strict family that like I did never I never even thought to ask because I didn't think they would be cool with it.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah.
SPEAKER_06:And then when I turned um 18, I think is how old you have to be to get a piercing on your own.
SPEAKER_05:Yes.
SPEAKER_06:Um, when I turned 18, I just no really like no longer really thought about it. You know, it just wasn't like a focus of mine at that point. I was like, I've gone this far. I don't think I need it. I made it this far. It wasn't during COVID, it was right after COVID. Not much after, but that's I got my nose pierced at like 2021 or 2022, I forget. Okay. Um, so like that's been fairly recent. Like it had like actually, I don't remember when I got it pierced. I'm gonna I'm not gonna lie to you. I really don't remember. It was like it was post it was either I don't think it was during 2020 because we weren't allowed to do shit then. Yeah, so it was either 2021 or something between 2021 and 2023. I somewhere in there.
unknown:I got you.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Regardless, you did wind up getting a piercing, so yeah.
SPEAKER_06:Maybe I do want to get my ears pierced though. Uh because I was thinking like like with the nose piercing I have, it's like, you know, like the uh it has like the two balls and it's like a we'll call it a half circle for lack of better terms.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah.
SPEAKER_06:Uh it's not it's not completely half circled, but it's not a full circle. I'm with you. Um I was thinking like I could get a because I don't think I would look good with like the diamond studs that a lot of people wear. But I it and I I don't want to like gauge, you can't gauge right away. Yeah, you know? So I was like, well, I do kind of want to gauge a little bit, but I don't I don't want to go so far that it's not gonna close up. Yeah. But I also think that once you get to a certain point, it's not gonna close up. Oh well, yeah, for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I was thinking of like maybe going like to a pencil eraser size. I was gonna say that's probably the furthest I would go.
SPEAKER_01:I see a lot of people with about about that size, where it's only like maybe that big, that big a gauge, and I'm like, that that's not awful, right?
SPEAKER_06:Like, like I have seen people with like you know, fucking huge gauges, and I'm like, ah to each their so I I feel the type of way about that because like some cultures there's a very specific reason why they gauge their their piercings, right? You know, like whether it's a lip with like a dinner plate-sized lip piercing, or even the ears are big, and there's a cultural, probably even spiritual or some sort of like traditional reasoning behind it. And I don't have a reason to do that, right? So like I would feel a little disrespectful in a way that's fair to do something that's like just to do it in the sake of doing it, yeah. Like I'll if I were to go down that path, uh first of all, let me let me just say I wouldn't get like giant piercings that you could fit your fist through. Like I'm just not interested in doing that because that's a lot of upkeep. That is, but like like I think from a visual standpoint of like what I perceive to look cool would be a a gauge that's like about the size of a pencil eraser.
SPEAKER_00:That's fair. That's fair.
SPEAKER_06:I do think that for starters, I would just do like a closed loop with like the one ball on the end of the same color that my nose piercing is. Yep. You know, like that I could fuck with. Yeah, I would I would do that. He said, I can get down with that. That's probably what I'll do. Yeah, start start there for my birthday. Yeah, hey. I should do that for my birthday.
SPEAKER_01:That'd be that wouldn't be bad. That wouldn't be bad. Hey, a um, yeah, but there you go. Uh earlobes. Yeah, they serve they serve some kind of purpose. Uh, maybe, maybe not what we think, but yeah, they definitely they do have their purpose. So um they out here. Yeah, they out here, they out here in these streets. With that being said, uh we'll we'll wrap this up, put a pretty little bow on it. Uh join us next time. Now, this time in two weeks. I promise. This time in two weeks, we will be discussing Halloween. And it'll be our spooky sode. We will talk about, we will do our candy review. Um, I know I I know we mentioned it on the last uh episode that that was this supposed to be this episode. That is incorrect. I stand corrected. It is not Halloween yet.
SPEAKER_06:We're gonna get to it. We're gonna get to it. We will.
SPEAKER_01:I know they're like, oh, but I want it right now. And it's like, I'm sorry, you gotta wait. You gotta wait a little bit, just a little bit. Just like all good things in life. Yeah, yes, you shall wait. I promise it'll be worth it. And we'll do our candy review about candy that we thought were were was were, you know, dead with time, but are still existent, and maybe they're good, maybe they're not. We'll give you your review. Um, but until then, uh do not forget, if you would like to try uh Magic Mind, ta-da! Do not forget to stop by www.magicmind.com and use our discount code FMJpod20 uh for 48% off subscriptions or 20% off one-time purchases. Uh but until then, since Tebbleton left, I will say Grizz, say ta-ta to your fans. Ta-ta! And I'm sure Yeti will be joining us on the next episode, and hopefully you'll get to see Templeton in something that he dresses up as for Halloween. So um join us in two weeks.
SPEAKER_00:Till then. Bye.
SPEAKER_01:Peace.
SPEAKER_03:There's also butts if we if we want to fall back on something.
SPEAKER_06:We can squeeze some butts in there.
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